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fukk the naysayers,......

this movie was so much fun.

i wrote a fukkin live as it was playing rant scene for scene.
bring on part ii, dammit!!!

i enjoyed watching white people be dumb as that thang in that movie!!

http://www.the-coli.com/arcadium/15305-prometheus-=-white-people-dumb-thang.html

[sidenote: if you google white people dumb as that thang,..you get my rant as the first link!! i feel so proud!!]



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:usure: All you have to do is think. I'm surprised so many of yall are finding the movie so hard to understand. I suggest yall stay far away from the movie 2001

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please. there's a difference between a great movie that makes u think, and a so-so movie that doesnt do its job connecting the dots that prompt analytical thought (but has enough pretty lights to make people connect the dots on their own).

did u NEED to do homework after watching 2001 to understand the themes being presented?

forcing someone to do research to make sense of all the missing parts in ur flick? :trash:
 

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I think all y'all right...:lolbron:

It was a kool enough movie and I'd watch it for FREE again...
I ain't really expected much from the Alien franchise, it dipped off a lot since Aliens...

I can see how some can overlook the stupid ass stuff in the movie and I can see how the stupid ass stuff can make you dislike it...

This is just an entertaining movie, it ain't a smart movie...

Things that smart movies dont have (a lot of stuff already mentioned):

1) Taking off the helmets, just stupid not even explainable
2) Petting the alien snake, just stupid not even explainable...When told about a life form in the west, they both choose to go east...When in the presence of the life form, one chooses to make friends with it rather than running the opposite direction...:mindblown:

I can buy homegirl at least getting out the chamber and the room after the alien was extracted only because I'd hope adrenaline could suppress pain enough until you believe you are out of harm's way...

I just hate that you still gotta use the stupidity of "grown ass woman falling down", having to rush into every major decision rather than thinking about possible outcomes when everyone aboard is from a "thinking" profession (maybe except the captain), and some of the laziness in the plot to make it through the film...

I mean they are using methods that stupid horror films use...

I was disappointed because I thought it was going to be a smart movie as well as entertaining...
 

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please. there's a difference between a great movie that makes u think, and a so-so movie that doesnt do its job connecting the dots that prompt analytical thought (but has enough pretty lights to make people connect the dots on their own).

did u NEED to do homework after watching 2001 to understand the themes being presented?

forcing someone to do research to make sense of all the missing parts in ur flick? :trash:


2001 got it's share of negative press when it came out too:
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However, Pauline Kael said it was "a monumentally unimaginative movie,"[148] and Stanley Kauffmann of The New Republic called it "a film that is so dull, it even dulls our interest in the technical ingenuity for the sake of which Kubrick has allowed it to become dull."[149] Renata Adler of The New York Times wrote that it was "somewhere between hypnotic and immensely boring."[150] Variety's 'Robe' believed the film was a "Big, beautiful, but plodding sci-fi epic...A major achievement in cinematography and special effects, 2001 lacks dramatic appeal to a large degree and only conveys suspense after the halfway mark."[151] Andrew Sarris called it "one of the grimmest films I have ever seen in my life...2001 is a disaster because it is much too abstract to make its abstract points."[152] (Sarris reversed his opinion upon a second viewing of the film, and declared "2001 is indeed a major work by a major artist."[153]) John Simon felt it was "a regrettable failure, although not a total one. This film is fascinating when it concentrates on apes or machines...and dreadful when it deals with the in-betweens: humans...2001, for all its lively visual and mechanical spectacle, is a kind of space-Spartacus and, more pretentious still, a shaggy God story."[154] Eminent historian Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. deemed the film "morally pretentious, intellectually obscure and inordinately long...a film out of control".[67] It has been noted that its slow pacing often alienates modern audiences more than it did upon its initial release.[155]

Science fiction writers had a range of reactions to the film. Ray Bradbury was hostile, stating that the audience does not care when Poole dies. He praised the film's beautiful photography but disliked the banality of most of the dialogue.[156] Both he and Lester del Rey were put off by the film's feeling of sterility and blandness in all the human encounters amidst all the technological wonders, while both praised the pictorial element of the movie. Del Rey was especially harsh, describing the film as dull, confusing, and boring, predicting "It will probably be a box-office disaster, too, and thus set major science-fiction movie making back another ten years."
If they had the internet like now back then, I'm sure you would see people posting about it was boring, confusing, or asking for explanations. I own the 2001 Space Odyssey blu-ray (hoping for a Criterion Collection release :ohlawd:) and love it that it makes you think. The novel explains it in more detail, however.
I don't need to research to understand Prometheus, but I do like reading others interpretation, just listen and think then it should make sense to you.

People either hate Prometheus or love it. Really don't care anymore. It made enough to warrant a sequel :yayo: So I'll be seeing yall in Paradise :youngsabo:


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Didn't know Alien got shytted on too when it was released
http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2012/04/bad-alien-reviews.html
 

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I walked by pops upstairs and was like

"When is the TV coming?"

"Hopefully by the end of the week"

"Did it come with 3D glasses?"

"Nah :jawalrus: already ordered 5 of them"

":wow:"

"Yo..so I think Prometheus is coming out on Blu-ray soon.... :hmm:"

he was like

":myman: Yep, I ordered it already but had to send it back to order the 3D Blu-ray since we're getting the new tv"

thats my dad :to:
 
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I walked by pops upstairs and was like

"When is the TV coming?"

"Hopefully by the end of the week"

"Did it come with 3D glasses?"

"Nah :jawalrus: already ordered 5 of them"

":wow:"

"Yo..so I think Prometheus is coming out on Blu-ray soon.... :hmm:"

he was like

":myman: Yep, I ordered it already but had to send it back to order the 3D Blu-ray since we're getting the new tv"

thats my dad :to:
:salute:

Blade Runner 2 is confirmed
Ridley Scott: Blade Runner sequel is no rumour - it's happening | Metro.co.uk
 

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still don't understand why david put that shyt up in the nikkaz drink


well,.....

if you never saw rhe original aliens.

then you would not understand the idea the androids play in weiland's scheme to harvest and use the aliens.
weiland is like a us weapons defense contractor.
so he is looking for indestructible bio weapons to sell for profit.
droids from weiland all have the prime directive of harvesting.
or securing any life that can be used as weapons in that prime directive.

under the guise of the crew. which little does the crew know.
they are not on the mission to work or study.
as the droid is the one harvesting. everything from all their data.
including harvesting and incubating weapons.
or incubating bio weapons using most of the crew as host .
so the crew is not even there to work.
that is why the crew of the alien ships are mostly ragtag fukk up with low scores. or misfits or two smart but dumb bookworms caught up in their studies.
that is why my rant is titled:
WHITE PEOPLE DUMB AS THAT THANG!!
the crew in prometheus, is there to one kill off any knowledge of the home world to the rest of society.
by having the main archealogist on the mission.
securing their data, then having them meet the unlikely demise of death on this space exploration.
by using them as a host. then, they touch down back on earth.
then blam,..a zeno bursts out their abdomen during the celebration. to scare any and all the rest of humanity from going abroad in space.

as weiland uses space exploration and convoys to harvest bio weapon/xeno's.
plus, makes space exploration the misfit dummy job for slackers and ragtags, from the bad pr. of the scientist demise, from a xeno harvesting and incubation to birth.

also, the droid is not human. so he does not get devoured by a xeno.
that is the reason why the droid always works if torn asunder as well.
so in the event the droid is torn asunder. he can always pilot a space pod or activate a beacon to secure a xeno.
in the event a bio weapon or alien kills the whole crew.
the bioweapon/xeno in a weiland ship/convoy/planet colony outpost.
can always be operational by win/lose/draw and make it so another weiland ship can round up and salvage the weapons or aliens or zeno's.
this is kind of touched on in the director's cut of aliens.
as aliens is the first weiland attempt to unleash zeno's on an entire outpost to see what damage it can wreck. plus take the data and then harvest xeno's.
after the damage from a xeno attack and harvest is setup.

under the guise of the colony, not knowing that is what they are there for.
in the original alien and aliens,..i believe the droid looks like weiland in his youth as well.
in prometheus, weiland was also in search of a way to become a god.
or at least restore his youth. on top of securing all the data and harvesting xeno's. yet he grew so old, he lost control of his company. which is why cherlize therzon's character is on the mission as well. as he has he their to elimiate her as a shareholder. regain his youth on the planet. return a young hero to earth and regwin his company in his daughter's death and demise. which looks loke a byproduct of the dangers of space exploration.
then take over the universe using xeno's and his new data from the engineer's. weiland perceives as god or having the technology of god.
that is why he actually risks going on the planet in his age and condition. after being put under cryogenically.
so he could see the culmination of his meglomaniacal plan with his own eyes. like any punk ass villain would do. when they are so full of psyche/sociopathic ideals to socalled win!
plus if he would have foundthe ability to restore his youth. he would have never died.

plus he could repopulate any colony amd use them to harvest xeno's woth human clones, too.

dude is fukking nuts with his ambitions.
which are in the aliens comicbook by darkhorse.
which is wish i read more of to gain expertise on the full story arcs and direction of the series.

the droids for weiland act as his only trusting vessell on any ship.
as weiland probably surveyed all data real time through the droid. plus may have controlled the droids remotely as well.

this makes the droid the main and the major antagonists and villain in every alien movie.

in alien, ripley learned about the droid's intentions and hated them.
in aliens, ripley had to learn to deal with them and took pity on the droid.
in the third alien they fukked up. they humanized ripley to the point se had to work in conjunction with the droid.
in the fourth alien i think ripley was a clone or droid and used to harvest zeno's, if i remember right. so in that flick i believe they made ripley the face of weiland. to offset weiland's intentions. plus put an identity to the droid. so it seemed less threatening after ripley in the comics. was successful and exposed the intentions of the droid and weiland's ideal to take over the world of the universe with zeno's. now i have not read all the darkhorse alien comics. nor enough to be an expert on the darkhorse series.
as i thought all these years, hey would have kept to the continuity of the series for the movies but fukked it up. like part three when they killed newt.
then ruined the franchise and ripley's character for all time.

yet the series got on track with sanaa lathan's female heroine character in avp.

then, the series lost direction again in the to dark for tv or a movie second aliens verse predator. the third robert rodriguez aliens vs predator is argueably one of the best in all the aliens or predator series.

so i would recommend people to watch.

alien
aliens
the sanaa lathan : aliens vs predator
the robert rodriguez aliens vs predator

as those movies will keep you intune to what aliens is about chiefly.
if you are feeling you like the story.
you should explore the darkhorse comic. which offers all the explanations.
plus continues in continuity, from the excellent aliens and has newt and ripley as kickass female heroine zeno killers. which is badass.
after that maybe you will like or understand prometheus.

as prometheus is the story that fits in place after the aliens vs predator series.

then begins before the original aliens.

this gen really does know sci-fi anyway. as space exploration was not part of your gen. plus y'all have moral compass issues because you did not grow up with the greatest movie franchise ever starwars. so i already know naysayers do not know what the fukk they are talembout.

as if you have not and do not know expertly the aliens series. you really can not ever critique a creature feature. as the first two aliens, are the best creature fearures ever made in the history of film.

followed by riddikk's first adventure then outlander.





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well,.....

if you never saw rhe original aliens.

then you would not understand the idea the androids play in weiland's scheme to harvest and use the aliens.
weiland is like a us weapons defense contractor.
so he is looking for indestructible bio weapons to sell for profit.
droids from weiland all have the prime directive of harvesting.
or securing any life that can be used as weapons in that prime directive.

under the guise of th crew. which little does the crew know.
they are not on the mission to work of study.
as the droid is the one harvesting. everything frok all their data.
including harvesting and incubating weapons.
that is the reason why the droid always works if torn asunder as well.

as in the event a bio weapon or alien kills the whole crew.
te bioweapon in a weiland ship/convoy/planet colony outpost.
can always be operatuonal by win/lose/draw and make it so another weiland ship can round up and salvage the weapons or aliens or zeno's.

this makes the droid the main and the major antagonists and villain in every alien movie.

in alien, ripley learned about the droid's intentions and hated them.
in aliens, ripley had to learn to deal with them and took pity on the droid.
in the third alien they fukked up. they humanized ripley to the point se had to work in conjunction with the droid.
in the fourth alien i think ripley was a clone or droid and used to harvest zeno's, if i remember right. so in that flick i believe they made ripley the face of weiland. to offset weiland's intentions. plus put an identity to the droid. so it seemed less threatening after ripley in the comics. was successful and exposed the intentions of the droid and weiland's ideal to take over the world of the universe with zeno's. now i have not read all the darkhorse alien comics. nor enough to be an expert on the darkhorse series.
as i thought all these years, hey would have kept to the continuity of the series for the movies but fukked it up. like part three when they killed newt.
then ruined the franchise and ripley's character for all time.

yet the series got on track with sanaa lathan's female heroine character in avp.

them the series lost direction again in the to dark for tv or a movie second aliens verse predator. the third robert rodriguez aliens vs predator is argueably one of the best in the series.

so i would recommend people to watch.

alien
aliens
the sanaa lathan : aliens vs predator
the robert rodriguez aliens vs predator

as those movies will keep you intune to what aliens is about chiefly.
if you are feeling you like the story.
you should explore the darkhorse comic. which offers all the explanations.
plus continues in continuity, from the excellent aliens and has newt and ripley as kickass female heroine zeno killers. which is badass.
after that maybe you will like or understand prometheus.

as prometheus is the story that fits in place afte the aliens vs predator series.

then begins before the original aliens.

this gen really does know sci-fi anyway. as space exploration was not part of your gen. plus y'all have moral compass issues becsuse you did not grow up with the greatest movie franchise ever starwars. so i already know naysayers do not know what the fukk they are talembout.

as if you have not and do not know expertly the aliens series. you really can not ever critique a creature feature. as the first two aliens, are the best creature fearures ever made in the history of film.

followed by ripley's first adventure then outlander.





art barr

props for the break down homie I had to stop in the middle of your post when u started to talk about alien 3 and....just made it up to part 3
 

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I think all y'all right...:lolbron:

It was a kool enough movie and I'd watch it for FREE again...
I ain't really expected much from the Alien franchise, it dipped off a lot since Aliens...

I can see how some can overlook the stupid ass stuff in the movie and I can see how the stupid ass stuff can make you dislike it...

This is just an entertaining movie, it ain't a smart movie...

Things that smart movies dont have (a lot of stuff already mentioned):

1) Taking off the helmets, just stupid not even explainable
2) Petting the alien snake, just stupid not even explainable...When told about a life form in the west, they both choose to go east...When in the presence of the life form, one chooses to make friends with it rather than running the opposite direction...:mindblown:

I can buy homegirl at least getting out the chamber and the room after the alien was extracted only because I'd hope adrenaline could suppress pain enough until you believe you are out of harm's way...

I just hate that you still gotta use the stupidity of "grown ass woman falling down", having to rush into every major decision rather than thinking about possible outcomes when everyone aboard is from a "thinking" profession (maybe except the captain), and some of the laziness in the plot to make it through the film...

I mean they are using methods that stupid horror films use...

I was disappointed because I thought it was going to be a smart movie as well as entertaining...

the cast and crew are only on a weiland ship to harvest xeno's or bioweapons.
that is why the crew captain is black.
that is why the scientist are smart/dumbass misfits and ragtags.

that is also why the scientist who discover the engineer's homeworld for weiland are there as well. as weiland wants to eliminate the main people who made the discoveries. so he can keep a monopoly on the bioweapons/xeno market for himself.

if you knew the alien franchise you should know why they were that stupid.
they mechanically were tested to be that dumb and make mistakes.

so it would look like a tragedy. then in the wake of the tragedy. weiland corp would use anyone brave or stupid enough to still go work for him as an ostracized social misfit. so he would not suffer any liability in civil courts. by someone legally looking into the directives of his space weapon company.

in aliens, that is why ripley is so adamant about the droid. plus amy weiland corp corporate guys in the crew. yet she also,..was put on the mission in aliens. as a long drwwn out measure to eliminate her as well. as the entire space planet outpost in aliens. had not been lost,..the outpost was purposefully made to harvest xeno's. plus, used to create a queen for studying how xeno's would ruin a planet.
so any crew in an aliens movie are expendable. little beknownest to the crew.

the only one in on the hoax is the weiland droid.




art barr

medi-space health chamber in sci-fi:

ever since at least startrek, if you go in a pod to get health medi attention.

you supposedly are always healthy enough to be active after that. as the medi chambers imply an advamcemwnt in human surgery healing/health.

also,..female caesarian patients even now,.. go home after the procedure.
so you overthought or did not know the background on sci fi movies and medichambers.
 

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how i gotta do four hours of research to understand the movie i just watched? :pacspit:

same problem the last two matrix films had. so busy trying to be deep/subversive that the actual plot gets thrown in the :trash:.



no, the second amd third matrix was just a piece of shyt.
prometheus is just a year 2000 alien continuity franchise reboot.
expertly done to the continuity of the alien/weiland corp franchise.


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:usure: All you have to do is think. I'm surprised so many of yall are finding the movie so hard to understand. I suggest yall stay far away from the movie 2001



i never saw 2oo1.
i get it confused with all the other sci-fi movies with similiar looks and date titles.

should i check it out,..

also what other movies were similiar to 2oo1.
as i have always got confused because it is a number of movies made similiar to it.





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