Reverse Racism: (non gundumb edition)

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The fact that it says sometimes disparaging ad sometimes used as a nickname proves my point. It's not an automatic dis and it's certainly not a racial slur. It can be a dis or a compliment based on the context in which it is used. like I said, I understand that it can be used offensively or in a way to negatively describe white people, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT.

He's probably on the IPhone genius.
 

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the only explanation i'v ever heard for cracker is khalid muhammed saying its because dudes used to crack the whip, but that is still up in the air/most likely from khalids brain and not reality

cracker doesn't necessarily assume anything bad either IMO

just seems like a slang type/funny type word for a white person
 

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The fact that it says sometimes disparaging ad sometimes used as a nickname proves my point. It's not an automatic dis and it's certainly not a racial slur. It can be a dis or a compliment based on the context in which it is used. like I said, I understand that it can be used offensively or in a way to negatively describe white people, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT.

lol, you said it wasn't an insult in any way

the "sometimes" and "nickname" applies to people from Georgia. so if that's not your context, that doesn't apply

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Then what the fukk are you posting all high pitched about? :why:

People trying to compare the word cracker and nikka as equal. Saying it makes you reverse racist if you use the word. It's just not true.

One more time for good measure.

Cracker= white person
******= ignorant savage less than human.

How can you compare the words and say they are the same.

He's probably on the IPhone genius.

:ohhh: is that what it is. Cause on mine it says nothing about disparaging or insulting.
 

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lol, you said it wasn't an insult in any way

the "sometimes" and "nickname" applies to people from Georgia. so if that's not your context, that doesn't apply

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Ive said no such thing. Context determining whether it's an insult or not has been he crux of my argument the whole time. Are you people really this dumb? The term itself is not a racial slur, but it can be an insult based on the context in which it is used. Ive said this to you over and over but now you want to act like I'm saying something new. Youre slow.
 

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Any word or term can be turned into a racial slur if used in a racist context. I'm simply saying that the word itself isn't a racial slur. The word itself is worn with a sense of pride by some white people. It's all about the context in which it is used. You all want to say that anytime a person uses the term cracker in reference to whites that they're automatically hurling a racial slur, and that's just not true.

I'm not saying the bolded at all. I agreed with you that when Bill Clinton quoted someone using it, Clinton wasn't using it as a slur. I agree with you there. But it can be a racial slur in different contexts. You must be confusing the various convos. I've said no such thing.

What this comes down to is I don't understand your definition of racial slur. Here's an excerpt from wiki on the origins of the word "******":

Etymology and history

The variants neger and negar, derive from the Spanish and Portuguese word negro (black), and from the now-pejorative French nègre (******). Etymologically, negro, noir, nègre, and ****** ultimately derive from nigrum, the stem of the Latin niger (black) (pronounced [ˈniɡer] which, in every other grammatical case, grammatical gender, and grammatical number besides nominative masculine singular, is nigr-, the r is trilled).... Among Anglophones, the word ****** was not always considered derogatory, because it then denoted “black-skinned”, a common Anglophone usage.[7] Nineteenth-century English (language) literature features usages of ****** without racist connotation, e.g. the Joseph Conrad novella The ****** of the 'Narcissus' (1897). Moreover, Charles dikkens and Mark Twain created characters who used the word as contemporary usage. Twain, in the autobiographic book Life on the Mississippi (1883), used the term within quotes, indicating reported usage, but used the term "negro" when speaking in his own narrative persona.[8]

So according to you, since ****** wasn't considered derogatory at it's origin, it doesn't qualify as a racial slur.

:sitdown:

How ridiculous does that sound? Just because at some point during slavery ****** was synonymous with black doesn't disqualify it as a racial slur. It's still a term used today to denigrate a race, which is the definition of a racial slur. The same can be said for cracker.
 

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I'm not saying the bolded at all. I agreed with you that when Bill Clinton quoted someone using it, Clinton wasn't using it as a slur. I agree with you there. But it can be a racial slur in different contexts. You must be confusing the various convos. I've said no such thing.

What this comes down to is I don't understand your definition of racial slur. Here's an excerpt from wiki on the origins of the word "******":



So according to you, since ****** wasn't considered derogatory at it's origin, it doesn't qualify as a racial slur.

:sitdown:

How ridiculous does that sound? Just because at some point during slavery ****** was synonymous with black doesn't disqualify it as a racial slur. It's still a term used today to denigrate a race, which is the definition of a racial slur. The same can be said for cracker.


Thats the white mans history, that doesnt count

Gravity will give you the real scoop on 19th century etymology

Realy, we quoting Wikipedia now:comeon:

That just says that black people called each other ******s, which we still do today. What does that have to do with the word cracker being racist?

:rudy: are y'all really black dudes trying to compare nikka to cracker.

:snoop: I have to be getting trolled.
 

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I'm not saying the bolded at all. I agreed with you that when Bill Clinton quoted someone using it, Clinton wasn't using it as a slur. I agree with you there. But it can be a racial slur in different contexts. You must be confusing the various convos. I've said no such thing.

What this comes down to is I don't understand your definition of racial slur. Here's an excerpt from wiki on the origins of the word "******":



So according to you, since ****** wasn't considered derogatory at it's origin, it doesn't qualify as a racial slur.

:sitdown:

How ridiculous does that sound? Just because at some point during slavery ****** was synonymous with black doesn't disqualify it as a racial slur. It's still a term used today to denigrate a race, which is the definition of a racial slur. The same can be said for cracker.
This is where the importance of history comes into play. This is why you cannot equate cracker with ****** or any other racial slur. Sure ****** didn't originate as a racist slur, but it became one over time. You can look back in history and pinpoint when the term became a tool to reinforce the perceived inferiority of a race of people. You can't do that with cracker. You're wrong when you say that term cracker denigrates a race because it has never been used to do so. You can't pinpoint a time in history when non white people used the term cracker to reinforce white inferiority. That's the only way that it could be used to denigrate a race. Even today when it's used in the worst context, cracker equals racist white person. Black people aren't racist, we hate ourselves more than we hate anyone else, and that's how this shyt is designed to go. That's why this thread is full of supposedly black people riding tooth and nail over the term cracker being a "racist slur". "dont u dare insult 'massa" It's sad really.
 

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Realy, we quoting Wikipedia now:comeon:

That just says that black people called each other ******s, which we still do today. What does that have to do with the word cracker being racist?

:rudy: are y'all really black dudes trying to compare nikka to cracker.

:snoop: I have to be getting trolled.
Bruh u thought daze23 tampered with dictionary.com, and your only source of info is your handful of white folks you hang out with... I think its safe your input is no longer valued
 

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This is where the importance of history comes into play. This is why you cannot equate cracker with ****** or any other racial slur. Sure ****** didn't originate as a racist slur, but it became one over time. You can look back in history and pinpoint when the term became a tool to reinforce the perceived inferiority of a race of people. You can't do that with cracker. You're wrong when you say that term cracker denigrates a race because it has never been used to do so. You can't pinpoint a time in history when non white people used the term cracker to reinforce white inferiority. That's the only way that it could be used to denigrate a race. Even today when it's used in the worst context, cracker equals racist white person. Black people aren't racist, we hate ourselves more than we hate anyone else, and that's how this shyt is designed to go. That's why this thread is full of supposedly black people riding tooth and nail over the term cracker being a "racist slur". "dont u dare insult 'massa" It's sad really.
You still arguing that people are saying cracker is a racist slur :pachaha:

Can you find one post where anyone but you or Meech claimed cracker was a racist slur? Thats your HW assignment for tonight. You nikkas is strawmanned up like a motherfukker
 

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You still arguing that people are saying cracker is a racist slur :pachaha:

Can you find one post where anyone but you or Meech claimed cracker was a racist slur? Thats your HW assignment for tonight. You nikkas is strawmanned up like a motherfukker
Like I said, you're a complete idiot. You need a tutor.
 

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Sure ****** didn't originate as a racist slur, but it became one over time.

So did cracker.

You can look back in history and pinpoint when the term became a tool to reinforce the perceived inferiority of a race of people.

Okay, what year did ****** become that tool?

Even today when it's used in the worst context, cracker equals racist white person.

No, it doesn't. There have been definitions posted in this thread that was more than "racist white person". It's more than that.

Black people aren't racist, we hate ourselves more than we hate anyone else, and that's how this shyt is designed to go. That's why this thread is full of supposedly black people riding tooth and nail over the term cracker being a "racist slur". "dont u dare insult 'massa" It's sad really.

What the hell are you talking about? This is how I know you are an idiot. I don't think blacks should be just as nasty as whites were in the past (and some still are) and use racially charged terms to refer to white people. I think that because I wouldn't want anyone using racially negative terms against me and my people. So that means I'm some sort of uncle-tom that hates my race? GTFO! Bigotry begets bigotry. You admit that cracker could be used to denigrate whites, (although you don't think it's a racial slur :leostare:) and that is all I'm speaking out against. That, in no way, means I hate my race. Fukk outta here with that bullshyt.
 
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