So what does cracker mean besides white person? How is it an insult? You simply can't answer those questions.
Reverse Racism: (non gundumb edition)
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Its a pejorative. Its like saying "whats a fakkit, its just a gay person, or a bundle of sticks" Then why not just call them a gay person? There's an implied context in its usage
Do you think Malcolm X was just "speaking in slang" when he said
"It's time for you and me to stop sitting in this country, letting some cracker senators, Northern crackers and Southern crackers, sit there in Washington, D.C., and come to a conclusion in their mind that you and I are supposed to have civil rights. There's no white man going to tell me anything about my rights."
Why didn't he just say white people? Clearly the use of "cracker" helped him drive the point home + express his disgust, distrust and anger with whites.
Is it reverse racist? I don't know, and because people generally come up with definitions of racism that are convenient to their beliefs (i.e. black people insist it is institutional + rooted in power, white people insist it is a belief system etc) I really don't care whether it is. Maybe I just need to start another thread.
it's an insult because it's meant to be insulting
I've already pulled out the dictionary for you, but that's not enough. many posters have told you their personal opinion on the word, but that's not enough. a few pages back I went into the history of the word, and how it is based on social hierarchies from slavery time in the south, but that's not enough. at some point I'm just better off trying to bang my head through a brick wall
Yeah point is had he said "white person" instead of cracker the overall point of the speech will not change. His hate shines through no matter what word he uses.
Yes fakkit is used as a term to describe homosexuals. But that's not what makes it offensive. The word fakkit has a history of being an insult and has plenty of meaning outside of describing a persons sexual preference. So it's not a very good example.
Nope, sorry but this doesn't fly. fakkit has a clear history of oppression, pain, and discrimination associated with it. Cracker does not. Try again.
Yes, Malcolm was basically using cracker as a slang or alternative term for white people. Again, cracker has no meaning besides being an alternative term for white people. It's not a term used to reinforce white inferiority or white discrimination.
Actually he did. "There's no white man going to tell me anything about my rights" he used "white man" at the end of that quote in the exact same way that he used "cracker" earlier on in that quote. At that time Malcolm considered the term "white man" to be an insult. Anytime he spoke of white people it was in disgust. The terms he used to describe whites didn't matter, he was always being insulting.
It's obvious that you don't care to distinguish petty "name calling" from hundreds of years of oppression and insitutionalized discrimination. The nerve of you describing people who are adamant about the distinction as trying to be convenient. You're so ignorant that it's not even funny.
of course the over all point wouldn't change. but that doesn't change the fact the word is mean to be insulting, and it added a little spice to the points he was making
I can call you a wonderful person in a sarcastic insulting way. That doesn't make wondeful an automatic insult if others use it. Point is the hate was already there no matter what word he used.
Put it this way racist white people refer to other whites as ******s. Not because there skin color, but because they identify with other people they deem ******s. This is because the word has meaning outside of just describing a persons skin color. You don't hear blacks insulting other blacks by calling them crackers. Because cracker has no outside meaning other than "white person"
Again cac=white person
nikka= ignorant less than human
The two words are just not comparable
No it's not. Go back and read the first post.
It's about usage of racial slurs coming from black posters on this board, then becoming insensitive when someone non-black says n1gga, or something to that effect
Forget the word, cac or cracker.
Let's get back to the point of this thread and use the term wetback, as an example.
Is it ok for blacks to call hispanics wetbacks too?
I'll just drop this here:
Black Sounding First Name on Resume. Yea or Nea? - Page 5 - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum
Black Sounding First Name on Resume. Yea or Nea? - Page 5 - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum
Lol, if the only definition of a word you're willing to accept is the one convenient to your beliefs/conclusions theres not much I can say.
Racism, at least by standard definitions, is not exclusive to the group in power. And cracker is deemed a racist term in certain context. But whatever man I guess reality is what you make it.
Racism, at least by standard definitions, is not exclusive to the group in power. And cracker is deemed a racist term in certain context. But whatever man I guess reality is what you make it.
Nope I never said it was ok for blacks to call anybody anything. I said the word cac does not compare to the word nikka, or even wetback. It is insulting to compare the word cac to the real racist and hateful words used to hate and discriminate against people in the past. This website is in no way a reflection of real life. half the dudes here claiming to be black are probably white and trolling. So you can't say that just because some people here identify themselves as black and spew hateful retoric, that others can't be bothered by the use of nikka. That hate will be hate no matter what words they use.
Sorry, but the white man's dictionary is not the end all be all as far as I'm concerned. Besides, I don't see it being defined as a racial slur
http://m.dictionary.com/definition/Cracker/?linkId=ibc5yn
I liketo think for myself and in real terms. I don't need a dictionary to tell me what a racial slur is. If you don't understand why it's important to distinguish between white people being called crackers and blacks and other non whites being subjected to institutional discrimination than you're an idiot who doesn't want to acknowledge the difference. People like you want to act like you're not racist and for equality but deep down you want to perpetuate the status quo. You wouldn't lift a finger to fight for real change and true equality. This is all about people hurting your feelings by calling you a cracker.
that link is broken
Point is cracker is open to many different interpretations and definitions. ****** is not.
You are right racism is not only limited to the group in power. But it is limited by hate and feelings of superiority. Out of context the word cracker doesn't envoke these feelings. Yes it can be used in conjunction with hateful rhetoric, but just hearing the word cracker does make you think of anything else other than "white person". Not "dirty rotten ignorant less than human savage white person" just "white person"