Reverse Racism: (non gundumb edition)

MeachTheMonster

YourFriendlyHoodMonster
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
69,754
Reputation
3,789
Daps
109,796
Reppin
Tha Land

Plies is ignorant we all knew that before you posted that video. In the rest of the videos it is used as a JOKE there is no hate associated with the word. Chris rock is a comedian we laugh at his jokes about black people, white people, and everything in between. They showed that video on mtv and white people didnt feal hated or disrespected. The boondocks is a parody show we laugh because it is wrong and it exposes the ignorance of some people. There's also a black dude running around on the show that hates his own race. It is not real life.
 

TLR Is Mental Poison

The Coli Is Not For You
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
46,178
Reputation
7,463
Daps
105,792
Reppin
The Opposite Of Elliott Wilson's Mohawk
Plies is ignorant we all knew that before you posted that video. In the rest of the videos it is used as a JOKE there is no hate associated with the word. Chris rock is a comedian we laugh at his jokes about black people, white people, and everything in between. They showed that video on mtv and white people didnt feal hated or disrespected. The boondocks is a parody show we laugh because it is wrong and it exposes the ignorance of some people. There's also a black dude running around on the show that hates his own race. It is not real life.
Most funny jokes are so because they provide some kind of insight on real life....

How about this though... since you claim white people use the word cracker more... find me one video of white people callign each other crackers. Since its such a commonplace thing :popcorn:
 

Julius Skrrvin

I be winkin' through the scope
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
16,319
Reputation
3,285
Daps
30,746
If white people want to insult each other, they do it in classist fashion, calling each other white trash, hicks, rednecks etc.

Cracker, honkey, cac etc are terms for non whites to use, and quite frankly they dont pack much of a punch.
 

TLR Is Mental Poison

The Coli Is Not For You
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
46,178
Reputation
7,463
Daps
105,792
Reppin
The Opposite Of Elliott Wilson's Mohawk
If white people want to insult each other, they do it in classist fashion, calling each other white trash, hicks, rednecks etc.

Cracker, honkey, cac etc are terms for non whites to use, and quite frankly they dont pack much of a punch.
Lol honkey is another good one. Def not made by white people. Clearly a (warranted to a large degree) reflex by black people, but def a black creation.
 

MeachTheMonster

YourFriendlyHoodMonster
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
69,754
Reputation
3,789
Daps
109,796
Reppin
Tha Land
Most funny jokes are so because they provide some kind of insight on real life....

How about this though... since you claim white people use the word cracker more... find me one video of white people callign each other crackers. Since its such a commonplace thing :popcorn:

First I didnt say it was common, in fact outside of this website I rarely hear the word if ever. I said when I have heard it come from a real persons mouth, that person was white. I've heard more white comedians use the word than black.

And I don't feel like looking for a video, but bill Clinton famously said he was looking for the "cracker" vote. And both Chris rock and the boondocks have plenty of white fans.

No black dude would be a fan of the ****** song by a white comedian.
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,263
Present a scenario to us in which calling a white person a cracker to their face would be cool. It would probably be similar to a situation where a white person calling a black person a ****** or nikka would be cool (i.e. non existent, hence proving the term "cracker" = offensive, even if its nowhere near as offensive or steeped in history as "******").

If we want to move forward as a people a good place to start would be to cut out the double standards we create & use to justify our own stupidity. What purpose does the term "cracker" serve beyond some pointless reaction to the pain caused by the use and history of "******"?
I just don't understand why some of you continue to try and make this false equivalence between cracker and ******. Have you not read through the thread? I assume since you called me out that you've at least read my posts. Therefore I have to chalk you not understanding why a black person using cracker to refer to whites is not the same as a white person referring to blacks as ******s, to a simple lack of intelligence. You have to be an idiot to think that it's the same thing, especially when the difference has been explained all throughout the thread. The false comparison is insulting. Cracker is not a racist slur because there is no history of racism associated with the term. It's not a matter of it not being as racist as ******, it's about it not being a racist term at all. I don't care how many of you captain save-white people whine about it, its still not a racist slur. If you cannot explain why "cracker" in and of itself is racist, then don't bother quoting me asking dumb strawman questions.
 

PartyHeart

All Star
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
2,627
Reputation
515
Daps
6,042
Reppin
NULL
The fact that it's not a racist term is really the only thing I've been arguing. The idea that the term cac is related to some sort of reverse racism (or that reverse racism even exists) deserves to be picked apart and laughed at. It's silly.

And full disclosure, I don't use or care to use the word cac (though i find it funny the way its sometimes used on this board) and the majority of my ex boyfriends have been non-Black, so I'm not coming from a biased perspective. Just using logic :yeshrug:
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,263
The fact that it's not a racist term is really the only thing I've been arguing. The idea that the term cac is related to some sort of reverse racism (or that reverse racism even exists) deserves to be picked apart and laughed at. It's silly.
Basically. Saying that cracker is a racist term or that whites are victims of reverse racism on this site is really insulting.
 

TLR Is Mental Poison

The Coli Is Not For You
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
46,178
Reputation
7,463
Daps
105,792
Reppin
The Opposite Of Elliott Wilson's Mohawk
I just don't understand why some of you continue to try and make this false equivalence between cracker and ******. Have you not read through the thread? I assume since you called me out that you've at least read my posts. Therefore I have to chalk you not understanding why a black person using cracker to refer to whites is not the same as a white person referring to blacks as ******s, to a simple lack of intelligence. You have to be an idiot to think that it's the same thing, especially when the difference has been explained all throughout the thread. The false comparison is insulting. Cracker is not a racist slur because there is no history of racism associated with the term. It's not a matter of it not being as racist as ******, it's about it not being a racist term at all. I don't care how many of you captain save-white people whine about it, its still not a racist slur. If you cannot explain why "cracker" in and of itself is racist, then don't bother quoting me asking dumb strawman questions.
Never said cracker was a racist slur

Its a race based insult... theres a difference. I explained explicitly why I didn't want to get into whether or not it is a racist term. But if we are going to play that game, would you say fakkit is a "sexual preference-ist" term? Is c*nt a sexist term?

Also explicitly said cracker is "nowhere near as offensive or steeped in history as "******"" in the post you quoted

So I'm not sure why you're throwing out all these strawmen. You're arguing things I never said

My only point is people who are angry about the usage of "******" shouldn't use the term "cracker". Regardless of how you feel about the words its a double standard.
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,263
Never said cracker was a racist slur

Its a race based insult... theres a difference

Also explicitly said cracker is "nowhere near as offensive or steeped in history as "******"" in the post you quoted

So I'm not sure why you're throwing out all these strawmen. You're arguing things I never said

My only point is people who are angry about the usage of "******" shouldn't use the term "cracker". Regardless of how you feel about the words its a double standard.
So what's the difference between a racist slur and a race based insult? What's the insult regarding cracker?

I know that you said but you still tried to make a false equivalence by saying that a black person calling a white person a cracker is the same as a white calling a black ******. No, it's not the same. You can't even explain why cracker is an insult. Whats the insult to white people?

Talking about building strawmen huh? 1st I've never said that I had a problem with people using ******. I'm of the understanding that non black people will always use it whether they use it in public or not. I'm not worried about people calling us ******s. I'm against the institution of white supremacy.

2nd, you're still trying to make this false equivalence between ****** and cracker. There is no double standard regarding those terms because they do not equate. Why do you have such trouble understanding that? "oh, you can't be against people calling blacks ******s and tolerate people calling whites crackers". Yes you can, why not? ****** is a racial slur, cracker is just a slang term.
 

daze23

Siempre Fresco
Joined
Jun 25, 2012
Messages
32,119
Reputation
2,715
Daps
44,386
Calling someone a "white boy"'or a "black guy" can be considered a race based insult.

how is "black guy" an insult?

"John is a black guy"

"John is a white boy"

"white boy" is kinda insulting if you're a grown ass man. and besides that, the term "boy" is sometimes meant to be demeaning
 

MeachTheMonster

YourFriendlyHoodMonster
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
69,754
Reputation
3,789
Daps
109,796
Reppin
Tha Land
My only point is people who are angry about the usage of "******" shouldn't use the term "cracker". Regardless of how you feel about the words its a double standard.

That's not what this thread is about. It's about the word cac being somehow reverse racist and comparable to the word nikka. This is just not true.

And I will agree with you that a person that complaines about being called a ****** shouldn't be insulting ANYONE in ANYWAY. But that has nothing to do with the word cac or race, and everything to do with the fact that you should give respect in order to receive it.
 

MeachTheMonster

YourFriendlyHoodMonster
Joined
May 24, 2012
Messages
69,754
Reputation
3,789
Daps
109,796
Reppin
Tha Land
how is "black guy" an insult?

"John is a black guy"

"John is a white boy"

"white boy" is kinda insulting if you're a grown ass man. and besides that, the term "boy" is sometimes meant to be demeaning

That's my point. Those terms aren't racist or insults unless you make them with context. Same as cracker.
 
Top