Retail workers are quitting at record rates for higher-paying work: ‘My life isn’t worth a dead-end
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Yeah but when the story broke on reddit no one blamed the worker the media made it a sticking point, to point out the ceo's and mgmt got the ppp loans and bonuses meanwhile the workers got laid off and furloughed how can they be blamed???we know how this happened...
Yep- the mainstream media is IN ON THE SCAM to the people.
One CEO can be the difference between the company making 1 billion or 3 billion.Pay them what they worth... shyt makes no sense the CEO doesnt do shyt gets paid millions and millions...
One worker is not.
It's all about what you can negotiate for yourself, there should be unions or higher minimum wages combined with a lot better worker protection and holidays like most European countries of course.
But at the end of the day, a CEO's salary might be 5-10 million while the combined retail workers salary bill is in the billions so in the grand scheme of things the ceo's salary is irrelevant.
No one is going to hand you a career or living, you have to earn it. Hone some skills or channel a creative outlet into a stream of income....
Pay retailers 20 an hour? The job doesn't require skills to justify that wage.....It would be nice but not realistic....
Costco paying 15 an hour....Holla at them if you are tight about getting the min wage.....
Pay retailers 20 an hour? The job doesn't require skills to justify that wage.....It would be nice but not realistic....
Costco paying 15 an hour....Holla at them if you are tight about getting the min wage.....
Trust Me
Coli Prophet
You don't grasp what's going on in the real world, do you?
If you're a single parent, with 2 kids lets say ..
-You're workin full time (40 hours)
-You got the kids in daycare.
After work, you pick them up and you make them dinner.
Then you sit down for family time.
How is that single parent supposed to 'hone some skills' ?? You're being narrowminded here. Not everyone is 20-25 years old with minimal responsibilities outside of a cell phone bill, that they can just drop everything and go back to school. Or study and pick up a trade. Or any of that shyt you're saying. Some people? Sure. A majority? Naaa. Not in this country.
So this is where you inevitably come back and say some dumb shyt like 'well, you shouldn't have had kids then' or 'no one made you start a family' .. but what you need to understand is that you're in the minority. Period. You're monday morning quarterbacking. Anybody can look at ANY situation and be like 'well, he/she coulda done this differently, or that differently' .. except that aint life.
Something along the lines of 83% of the US population are living paycheck to paycheck. Are you saying they're all fukkin up? Cause thats what it sounds like.
feelosofer
#ninergang
Like I said I had a cousin that was a HHA took some certifications and now works in a hospital making $22 an hour plus benefits and overtime readily available. A lot of people leveled up their skills.
The only thing that I think will happen in September is panic honestly. I've been reading these reports closer and realizing that these hundreds of thousands of people are quitting/resigning.... Not being laid off.
You cannot get Unemployment if you just leave a job for no reason. And 649,000 people quit retail regardless of not getting UI. All these expectations that people are going to suddenly rush back to these low paying jobs in September might be a false hope companies are floating to make themselves feel better. These cats in denial. If those people left, and arent getting a check, they arent coming the fukk back period. They didnt leave for unemployment, they left to work elsewhere. All these articles including this one in this thread say stuff like this:
That means they are leaving these jobs and mainly finding other ones. Supply and demand. They not coming back to flip burgers for 9 an hour. That shyts done.
Whats not realistic is expecting your business to grow or make a ton of money when the shopping season hits this winter and you dont have staff in 90% of the fukking stores.
Thats the "realistic" a lot of these companies are about to learn.
Meanwhile min wage:
shyt is common sense. People not gonna work for you just to be homeless, they can be homeless and broke without a fukking job. Make it make sense.
Dark Knyght
All Star
Is the problem the wage? Or the problem you decided to have kids while making that wage.
That is life. You have the power of deciding when you have kids. You have the power to make good decisions vs. bad ones. And having kids before your able to "afford" them is just stupid and will set you back.
Most adult children are quick to move out of their parents house after high school and or college for more "freedom". Then you get smacked by the real world. You should be using that time to build yourself. I saved 60K while under my parents roof making between $8-$15 for the simple fact that I had a goal in mind and was disciplined enough to do it. I also, had my own car that I paid for myself. I'm not saying all parents or situations are the same. But what I am saying is that we all mostly had a foundation that we came from that we probably should've taken more advantage of. That 60K sat until i started making around 60K a year by time I was 27-28, I could finally afford a home on my own, which I did. I didn't have a kid until I was 30, and I always told myself I don't want a kid until I have my own house to put him in. That's life planning. And most people don't plan at all. Now I'm 6figs/6certs at 34 about to buy my second home.
Parents are 2 quick to push their children into the world on their own and Kids are too quick to leave the foundation for freedom, where there a mutual beneficial relationship that parents and adult children should/could have. Adult children can contribute to the household, alleviating some pressure of the parents, while being able to save money. We also have a culture of people wanting to be fly before they can afford to be fly. Where are the priorities. People complaining about wages, but have the latest iphones, airpods and jordans and other luxuries. Where's the sacrifice for what you want.?
I'm not saying wages don't need to be increased, but I'm saying we have to be realistic at the same time. You weren't meant to be able to raise a family as a cashier at Mcdonalds. So because you decided to have said family as a cashier. Your blaming that company that they don't pay enough to fill the gap of your bad decisions.
Blanket wage increases won't work and will kill small businesses, especially in rural parts of the country. Wages should increase across the board, but it should be different in every state and catered to that state's economy. Minimum wage in New York City, should probably be like $17-$18 based on its economy but in west bubblefukk Kentucky $10-$11 should be aight since its a slower market, the cost of living is significantly lower and those business won't make as much money just because of location and traffic.
Pretty crazy with the new inflation that the min wage is still 7.25 an hour.
What if enough people reject the system based on its fundamental value of worshiping the dollar and gaining absolute power?
Corporations must be held accountable and start doing right by people! Pay them fairly and equally
What if enough people reject the system based on its fundamental value of worshiping the dollar and gaining absolute power?
Corporations must be held accountable and start doing right by people! Pay them fairly and equally
Don't agree. The same way people around the globe can uprise and get a crooked politician, leader, gov't out the paint, they can do the same for the workforce. The people have the power to use. Can't be scared. When the US still manufactured shyt, no one "suffered". The people working those jobs also made sure they ate well by forcing companies to compensate them more.
I don't believe in sitting back and just charging shyt to the game. Do something about it.
Dameon Farrow
Superstar
This is the part of capatalism employers won't like. The part where they have to pay higher wages. Exploiting is fun and games until your workers slide that 2 week notice across that desk.
No sympathy. Pay a higher wage or perish.
No sympathy. Pay a higher wage or perish.
all it boils down to. force their fukkin hand.
Gospel.
Dameon Farrow
Superstar
Unless you have 4 people living under one roof making 7.25 an hour apiece nobody is living comfortable on that kind of wage.Pretty crazy with the new inflation that the min wage is still 7.25 an hour.
What if enough people reject the system based on its fundamental value of worshiping the dollar and gaining absolute power?
Godless Socialist CEO
Superstar
The bold is 100% not true and a pretty outlandish statement. The mere suggestion that our brand of capitalism is somehow better than the China, India, Russia... etc is peak American Exceptionalism, also I cannot get on board with telling people in other nations "Hey our companies/government are going to do awful shyt to your people and your country, y'all need to man up and deal with it." I will never ever cosign some shyt like that simply because we're too fukking lazy to go through the necessary steps to transform our economy into one that benefits us without having to fukk up other people on a global scale. It also ignores the fact that the US government plays a huge role in those companies being able to do that shyt in the first place.
Also enough about the manufacturing stuff, those jobs are never coming back. That's right wing nonsense those people sell to their paste eating base. That's never going to happen, especially considering how different our economy is now.
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