Why should we get free education when other groups were given money? Dont remember Jews or Asians asking for free education, cut black people a check and be done with it
Reparations need to be THE issue for African Americans by the 2018/2020 elections
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Nothing and nobody would care. Probably get more support from cacs
Black issues will never be at the forefront of anything. You know this to be historically true even till today.
Holding votes hostage would work if we were 50% of America with higher incomes. But we are not....
I'm against reparations with extreme prejudice unless its only given to black businessmen or tech startupd.
Fix that first and then you can do real damage.
Bilz
Superstar
shoot me a cool 100k and im good
i like the idea of reparations but its not a defeatist attitude to say it's extremely unlikely it will ever happen
if a real push for things like in the op were to happen i could get behind it... nikka got pay back these school loans
It is simply impossible for this to go through as some are suggesting. An NSA payout to all descendants? First of all, no political party is going to go anywhere near this idea, nor is any politician who has power or clout. Second of all, the amount of money available for each person would be insulting. "Here's $12, hundreds of years of slavery is now forgiven"
Deutsche Bank
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Millennials.
whats free about something that someone owes you? even by you saying that its ridiculous and it shows a sign of being brainwashed by what you have heard your entire life. thats its a FREE CHECK. no its not. THEY OWE US. PERIOD.White people giving us a free check outside of the usual government check.
Don't even wait on that. Continue to hustle for that money and help out the community the best way you can.
If they left then they escaped Jim Crow and reconstruction.... no reparations for you.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
Stop it breh. They don't see it that way. They see as giving us a free check. Stop thinking that they believe that they owe us money.
mcdivit85
Superstar
Excellent point about reparations needing to be about more than slavery alone. This country has committed continuous acts of systemic discrimination against blacks in the areas of education, employment, real estate, finance and politics.
If we were to just look at the damage done to thriving black communities like Greenwood in Tulsa and Rosewood in Florida where blacks amassed wealth, which was subsequently taken away. Or even the Freedman's Bank, which had grown to millions of dollars shortly following the end of the Civil War only to have the bank closed by the federal government as capitulation to the South and peoples' money confiscated by the government and never returned. Or the medical apartheid where blacks were used as human lab rats. Or the exclusion of benefits gained via the GI Bill even after serving in the armed forces.
This is much bigger than slavery. And even if it was only slavery, that would be more than enough to demand reparative economic and social policy.
Peace
If we were to just look at the damage done to thriving black communities like Greenwood in Tulsa and Rosewood in Florida where blacks amassed wealth, which was subsequently taken away. Or even the Freedman's Bank, which had grown to millions of dollars shortly following the end of the Civil War only to have the bank closed by the federal government as capitulation to the South and peoples' money confiscated by the government and never returned. Or the medical apartheid where blacks were used as human lab rats. Or the exclusion of benefits gained via the GI Bill even after serving in the armed forces.
This is much bigger than slavery. And even if it was only slavery, that would be more than enough to demand reparative economic and social policy.
Peace
mcdivit85
Superstar
Breh you do realize the US is trillions in debt right? They have no money to give is in the first place. Secondly blacks literally 30 years out of slavery were able to built one of the most successful neighborhoods in the country(Greenwood, OK aka black wall street) WITHOUT reparations. There were more black wall streets but jealous whites destroyed them. If blacks literally a couple decades out of one of the worst events in world history can create successful neighborhoods, we modern day blacks can too.
How they trillions in debt making all these stealth bombers and drones....
the money coming from somewhere it's bullshyt.
mcdivit85
Superstar
What would happen if a whole bunch of Black people boycotted the next elections ?
Did you see the other thread talking about not voting? These n#ggas going into an uproar about voting is the solution to their problems.
Black people still using that "our ancestors died for the right" excuse to vote for the sake of voting.
Peace
MarloStanTrill
Banned
Before the defeatists come in and say it CAN'T happen, let me pre-empt you and say that this should still be THE cause we lobby for regardless of outcome. It's time to AT LEAST normalize the discussion, and to steer the conversation away from slavery (opponents like to focus on this in order to deflect arguments in favor to reparations saying it was too long ago, too hard to tell who was impacted, etc), and focus on the discrimination done in the last 100 years.
So, what are the reparations for?
1. Institutionalized, systemic racism ignored if not condoned by the US government:
- Redlining enabled by the National Housing Act of 1934; enabled banks to develop maps that would "color code" certain neighborhoods in 240 cities in the US. Incidentally, African American neighborhoods were "red lined", meaning no lending money could flow into those areas for home ownership or small businesses
- This lead to "contract lending" in these neighborhoods...an especially predatory lending scheme in which blacks had to pay much more to purchase a home. and NEVER ACTUALLY OWNING THE DEED FOR THE HOME.
- MOST of the disparity in household wealth between African Americans and white Americans (the average white household has 20 times the wealth of the average African American household) is due to AAs being cut off from home ownership, which has been the main method of building wealth in the US
2. 400 Years of slavery: Trillions of dollars worth of labor STOLEN from blacks...most of us are familiar with this
- "Of the first 67,000 mortgages insured by the G.I. Bill, fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites"
- The bill was passed so that the program was administrated by LOCAL governments...in the fukking 1950s
What we want (Broadly...let's discuss)
*subsidized post-secondary education for African Americans
*low interest loans for African American businesses
*government sponsored loans for low interest loans for qualifying first time black home-buyers
How we do it
*secure pledges from state and nationally elected representatives to support pathfinding for a reparations program and hold them to it. No pledge, no donations. No pledge, no vote. Pledge with no action? Primary opponent. Peep the way Hillary's been angling for the black vote...we need to take advantage of that.
This will put the onus on the representatives to make the case to white people in the same way that they have for gay marriage, etc.
Now, many of you will say, "Oh this means Republicans will take over everything" to which I respond...OK, so what's the difference? The status quo for African Americans in this country is unacceptable, and I honestly think Republicans winning races that Democrats would otherwise win would not mean much more harm to the black community in the grand scheme of things.
Anyway, wanted to hash out some thoughts and share with the hope that we can keep this in TLR, maybe even stickied.
I'll follow up with some articles that make the case particularly well...
I agree. Im tired of hearing about Healthcare and gun laws and immigration- things thta have been debated forever but have not changed IN MY LIFE (including healthcare- so reparations or nothing.
After we get our reparations we should all get our money together ad find our own country, because I have no interest in improving or taking part in an y political process in this racist ass country
MarloStanTrill
Banned
"When them new Jordan's coming out"
maybe thats YOUR CIRCLE-- im black and MY black friends are talking about
"Mutual fund took a hit today"
"Just refinanced my mortgage at a lower APR"
"Did you see they are trying to gerrymander Dekalb county again?"
If all you hear about is jordans, it says more about YOU and YOUR CIRCLE.
