Rep. Al Green Tells Charlemagne Why Democrats are Losing

[Wiseborn]

did this dude really just compare passing a 2 trillion dollar spending bill, to standing up and yelling during the state of the union

No he said the various bills that the Democrats wanted where held up by two people.

Those two people who ended up leaving the party anyway threw a monkeywrnech into the whole democrat agenda.

The clip had nothing to do with him getting thrown out.

 

[Big Boss]

@JT-Money

 

[Wiseborn]

Americans needs the systems of order to collapse and we need a revolution.


This two party shyt won't change until we disassemble the current order.

By not voting or by any other means you are delaying the inevitable.

You must want to control your destiny and the destiny of your children

When you say that that means a global depression you down to live in a cardboard box until said revolution happens?

trump folded on tariffs because he knows most of MAGA won’t like a mild recession.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

The fact that 10 DEMOCRATS voted to Cencure him along with Republicans show you how WEAK they are.

NOT ONE should have considering what we are dealing with.

Shame on them

They’re shameless.

Of course they’d censure a black man.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Hard to do progressive things in a country that isn't progressive and your "working class" worships (white) wealth. Ol Bedtime Biden did everything you're "supposed to do" Domestically and instead the game show host got a 2nd chance.

What works in NY and Cali is a tough sell in AZ and WV.

But the pendulum will eventually swing back. Just gotta accept the fact the best this country will ever be is some mix of the Clinton-Obama years.

It always has and always will. That’s why it was goofy when posters on here and the internet were saying that Republicans would never win an election again due to Roe vs Wade like we haven’t had hundreds of years worth of history to go on.

 

[Unbothered]

He's right but I feel like the Dems are too scared to go fully progressive because of the social climate of the US. The heart of this country isn't interested in progressive, socialist types of politics on a grand scale; too much hate, bigotry, disdain, and a desire to see certain people suffer/lose is why these types of politics don't go far and are partially why the Dems lost in November.

It's like I've been saying: progressive political policies are a losing strategy for Dems because, unlike Republicans, they can afford to go fully Far-Right/ultra-conservative. After all, much of their voting base supports that type of rhetoric/agenda, so it's easier to get things done and not be scared of alienating a segment of their supporters.

Dem voters are split between being moderate/centrist (somewhat liberal, somewhat conservative, y'know 50/50) and progressive beliefs (social justice reform, gender, race, etc).

 

[Wiseborn]

It always has and always will. That’s why it was goofy when posters on here and the internet were saying that Republicans would never win an election again due to Roe vs Wade like we haven’t had hundreds of years worth of history to go on.

yep now you got nikkas in the Jasmine Crokett tread saying the Democrats will “never win again”. Like there hasn't be a pendelum swing damn near every 8 to 12 years or so.

 

[Gritsngravy]

And a lot of the responses in this thread prove that even Dem SUPPORTERS have a hard time grasping that the old political way is DEAD

The party needs a new movement similar to the tea party on the right.

All that centrist shyt is DONE, nothing about politics at the moment is "centrist' and the Dems keep playing themselves thinking that is gonna work when thats what help get us here.

All the old greedy lifetime politicians need to move the fukk out the way ..

Al Green is one of the few REAL ONES left

Yea some of these responses im seeing, like folks didn’t listen to what he had to say

The so called “centrist” is the people who fukked the situation up in the first place, they the ones who didn’t have a plan on what to do

Under “centrist” leadership from both parties is why trump is even possible

 

[42 Monks]

Still really, really bothers me how they let Green get tossed out by himself. I get not being the first one up, there were a lot of brands of messaging going on from the party at the time, but someone's gotta show a mind for the moment man....

and then to vote against him? smh

 

[Strapped]

#BothSides

Say it loud

 

[Strapped]

Still really, really bothers me how they let Green get tossed out by himself. I get not being the first one up, there were a lot of brands of messaging going on from the party at the time, but someone's gotta show a mind for the moment man....

and then to vote against him? smh

What he did was out of hand & it did nothing . Just let Cheeto do his speech .

 

[the bossman]

and then to vote against him? smh

They hAve zero unity unlike Republicans

 

[KamikazePilot]

There needs to be a party split because the left wing dems can’t keep letting the right wing old-guard dems hold them back because as it stands now it’s really #BothSides

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

He's right but I feel like the Dems are too scared to go fully progressive because of the social climate of the US. The heart of this country isn't interested in progressive, socialist types of politics on a grand scale; too much hate, bigotry, disdain, and a desire to see certain people suffer/lose is why these types of politics don't go far and are partially why the Dems lost in November.

It's like I've been saying: progressive political policies are a losing strategy for Dems because, unlike Republicans, they can afford to go fully Far-Right/ultra-conservative. After all, much of their voting base supports that type of rhetoric/agenda, so it's easier to get things done and not be scared of alienating a segment of their supporters.

Dem voters are split between being moderate/centrist (somewhat liberal, somewhat conservative, y'know 50/50) and progressive beliefs (social justice reform, gender, race, etc).

Socialists, people who care about workers rights, human rights, universal healthcare should abandon the Democrats

Democrats will never get in the way of their corporate donor interests

 

[Afro]

@Uachet
@ba'al

#Bothsides up x Infinity

Vote Blue no matter who and we get Dancing Fighter TikToks and wearing pink.

Any real one with a spine gets muted and the rest end up bowing down (AOC).

SMH. Where they fukk is a real third party?