Rep. Al Green Tells Charlemagne Why Democrats are Losing

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Hard to spin this the Man admitted that the democrats fukked up and #bothsiders got a right to be mad.

How can you agree with him yet disagree with him because he’s anti trump?


He is 100% right and still needs to resign like all the rest of the Democrats. Gotta love all these Dems suddenly realizing the mistakes of the Democratic party, while they spent the last 2-3 years scoffing at and chastising people who were saying the exact same thing they are saying now. It's proof that they were actually listening the entire time,but just casually dismissing real people. Either because a) they don't give a shyt. Or B) they think they are smarter than they actually are. Believing they can still manipulate people with emotional puppet strings like they usually do.


Every time I see a Democrat "seeing the light". I just see a suspect from the First 48 who realizes he's been caught,and now wants to lessen their involvement and seperate themselves to save their own ass.
 

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He is 100% right and still needs to resign like all the rest of the Democrats. Gotta love all these Dems suddenly realizing the mistakes of the Democratic party, while they spent the last 2-3 years scoffing at and chastising people who were saying the exact same thing they are saying now. It's proof that they were actually listening the entire time,but just casually dismissing real people. Either because a) they don't give a shyt. Or B) they think they are smarter than they actually are. Believing they can still manipulate people with emotional puppet strings like they usually do.


Every time I see a Democrat "seeing the light". I just see a suspect from the First 48 who realizes he's been caught,and now wants to lessen their involvement and seperate themselves to save their own ass.
Well he was always progressive its just that he's a backbencher
 

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As long as the old guard is in the wings nothing will change
This is the crux of it. The constant psychological analysis of why they lose is useless. You have hoes like Jeffries chasing Billionaire dollars, multi millionaire Pelosi stymying AOC for House Oversight, Schumer, etc…folks need to GO! There are people willing to put in work but the monied Republican-lite Dems keep fukking it up.
The Dems did get rid of Bush & Bowman for stepping out of line though
Both sides are trash
That was AIPAC, not “The Dems.” Big money talks.
 

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lol thats bullshyt. Manchin and Sinema were immune from the pressure progressive Dems tried to put on them. Because the bills literally couldn't pass without Manchin and Sinema's stamp of approval due to the Senate control & vote margin. Which meant they had free reign to ratfukk the bills to their liking.
Also, Sinema voted something like 93% with Dems and Manchin 80%+. I posted a link some months back but while there is this revisionist history, they usually were allies so the cart was rocked to fukk them. The problem was them stopping marquee bills. It’s understandable why they werent fukked with when at any time they can tank bills or switch to Republican/Independent (which Sinema ended up doing.)
 

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He's right but I feel like the Dems are too scared to go fully progressive because of the social climate of the US. The heart of this country isn't interested in progressive, socialist types of politics on a grand scale; too much hate, bigotry, disdain, and a desire to see certain people suffer/lose is why these types of politics don't go far and are partially why the Dems lost in November.

It's like I've been saying: progressive political policies are a losing strategy for Dems because, unlike Republicans, they can afford to go fully Far-Right/ultra-conservative. After all, much of their voting base supports that type of rhetoric/agenda, so it's easier to get things done and not be scared of alienating a segment of their supporters.

Dem voters are split between being moderate/centrist (somewhat liberal, somewhat conservative, y'know 50/50) and progressive beliefs (social justice reform, gender, race, etc).

I disagree, Bernie had a lot of enthusiasm built up amongst voters using mild socialist policies. It was the Dem establishment that didn’t want to embrace that even though it was the natural move forward for the party. That was what was going to win over the swing states.

Now it’s out there looking like a dinosaur because ironically, they were too conservative to take a fresh approach. If a progressive party is to emerge then the first order of business would be to get the centrist Dems voted out since they’d be the most vulnerable in terms of their appeal to voters.
 
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I disagree, Bernie had a lot of enthusiasm built up amongst voters using mild socialist policies. It was the Dem establishment that didn’t want to embrace that even though it was the natural move forward for the party.

Now it’s out there looking like a dinosaur because ironically, they were too conservative to take a fresh approach.
Facts
 

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10 Democrats join with Republicans to censure Rep. Al Green for Trump speech protest​


The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.
 

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10 Democrats join with Republicans to censure Rep. Al Green for Trump speech protest​


The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.
All of them on some dumbass "respect the institution" shyt while getting shot the fukk up at a swords only tournament :mjlol:
 

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He's right but I feel like the Dems are too scared to go fully progressive because of the social climate of the US. The heart of this country isn't interested in progressive, socialist types of politics on a grand scale; too much hate, bigotry, disdain, and a desire to see certain people suffer/lose is why these types of politics don't go far and are partially why the Dems lost in November.

It's like I've been saying: progressive political policies are a losing strategy for Dems because, unlike Republicans, they can afford to go fully Far-Right/ultra-conservative. After all, much of their voting base supports that type of rhetoric/agenda, so it's easier to get things done and not be scared of alienating a segment of their supporters.

Dem voters are split between being moderate/centrist (somewhat liberal, somewhat conservative, y'know 50/50) and progressive beliefs (social justice reform, gender, race, etc).
This is a lie that ppl keep repeating

Bernie more popular than Kamala ever was

Yea, he's white, but that's not the only reason
 

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I think most people here are moderates, unfortunately the country as a whole only sees absolutes. Gotta be polar opposites, while I'm convinced the average republican voter is well below average in terms of intelligence and unfortunately that's what you need. A bunch of mindless drones parroting key talking points.
The word moderate doesn't mean anything to me in terms of the common man

shyt keeps going farther right, and ppl keep acting like moderate is moving right instead of the left
 

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This is a lie that ppl keep repeating

Bernie more popular than Kamala ever was

Yea, he's white, but that's not the only reason
Exactly

Reaganism has absolutely BRAINWASHED this country.

That's where all the fear of anything remotely left started.

It's to the point where people completely ignore that most of the popular ideas can be considered progressive, yet the only ones that get highlighted are the unpopular ones like Trans issues

The Dems messaging is ABSOLUTE SHYT
 
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