redman: i rank eminem up there with biggie and nas (vladtv interview)

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cac west fans proclaim proudly that knaye isnt "hip-hop" hes BEYOND "better" "progessed" ABOVE whhat hip-hop was/is


and whats that?

an album (yeezus) full of beats made by http://www.thecoli.com/threads/yeezus-actual-production-credits-ghostwriters.123426/

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Oh no shyt.

So rick rubin never happened?

What's that PIC supposed to prove?
 

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If your new material is garbage, it diminishes your previous good work..aint no way Em at top 10 mc.
 

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He has no classics that black people listen to

The ones that do obviously have some kind of connection with cacs thats deeper then rap.

I know Africans that are serial Em stans and they've never fukked with cacs

One of 'em is a zimbabwean n!gga who ran cac farmers outta there
 

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Like I said, he's a rappers rapper. MC's are going to look at what he does and his status a little differently than your average culture consumer.

I personally will always rank Nas and Jay above em, he's not on that first tier but if we are talking about in general, his talent and initial run for better or worse is always going to afford him some kind of name recognition with the as a noteworthy artist in Hip Hop history.
 

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Red obviously just saying this because cacinem always have him props

But cacinem not top 15 or 20. His music has had ZERO replay value

Who still bumping MMLP? :mjlol:
 

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i always said, only on hip hop forums does eminem not even make top 20 lists. any credible mc, or even hip hop mind in general, has eminem easily in their top 20, arguably top 10, of all time. ask nas and hov and cube and rakim and them where they rank eminem, i'd bet you he is in all of their top 10 ever. a lot of the shyt he raps about aint really my bag but the technical skills, the song making ability (yall sleep on his hooks, he always been dope at formatting records), the extreme gymnastics he does with words, and the fukkin STATS are undeniable, even attempting to deny it is corny, like you hatin for some other unimportant reasons. i fukk with the "Marshall Mathers LP" eminem moreso than the 100% speed rap, whiteboy motivation anthem eminem, but nah, he 17 years deep commercially, he has earned his respect and his place in the history books.
 

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most MC's still like Em because he is very technical and excels a lot of aspects of MC'ing - flow, multis, punchlines, storytelling etc.
exactly... nikkas clown redman as a funny rapper... but most rappers give him props for bars and being one of the most underrated

it's no leap to say a man who held his own and excelled on tracks with jay, big and most of all the other legends, could be considered up there by another lyrical or "old school" mc
 
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