reasons that capitalism is better than socialism...

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"corporatism" is not to blame for capitalism's problems
That shyt (corporatism) really is a scape goat...

Truth is... you can't have a happy population if you aren't socialist... or mixing in socialist ideas into your system... that mitigates some of the exploitation.


At least that's what I think based on these responses.
 
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That shyt (corporatism) really is a scape goat...

Truth is... you can't have a happy population if you aren't socialist... or mixing in socialist ideas into your system... that mitigates some of the exploitation.


At least that's what I think based on these responses.
Not sure what having socialism has to do with corporatism being a scapegoat, but you to should look up the two (capitalism and corporatism) and then explain to me how they are one in the same.

As for the socialist point, i agree, but wouldnt use the word "can't".
 

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Not sure what having socialism has to do with corporatism being a scapegoat, but you to should look up the two (capitalism and corporatism) and then explain to me how they are one in the same.

As for the socialist point, i agree, but wouldnt use the word "can't".
socialism has nothing to do with corporatism...

but about capitalism and corporatism.. you are basically saying what does a rapper has to do with a microphone..
 

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socialism has nothing to do with corporatism...

but about capitalism and corporatism.. you are basically saying what does a rapper has to do with a microphone..
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Alright, how would you define the relationship between the two? or what makes you say they are in fact the exact same thing?:popcorn:
 

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Alright, how would you define the relationship between the two? or what makes you say they are in fact the exact same thing?:popcorn:
didn't say they are the same thing.

you don't think the rapper (corp) uses the mic?... the mic is capitalism and is run by corporatism... Because the sole purpose of capitalism is profits with no concern for social well-being.... it's only natural for it to be ran and controlled by the wealthy.
It ignores human flaw and nature (basically shytting on one another) so it's perfect for exploitation.
There will always be a 'need' and mental disconnect between the wealthy and the poor -- so under a capitalist system there will always be money controlled politics and exploitation by the controllers of capitalism (corps) ...

I mean , who else is supposed to control shyt in the capitalist systems besides corps?
Just like civil servants control most of the systems in a socialist system.

Socialism is like a radio.... you just have to turn it on and it's free for everyone... but you still can have you XM and satellite pay stations if you want to have that freedom.
 

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didn't say they are the same thing.

you don't think the rapper (corp) uses the mic?... the mic is capitalism and is run by corporatism... Because the sole purpose of capitalism is profits with no concern for social well-being.... it's only natural for it to be ran and controlled by the wealthy.
It ignores human flaw and nature (basically shytting on one another) so it's perfect for exploitation.
There will always be a 'need' and mental disconnect between the wealthy and the poor -- so under a capitalist system there will always be money controlled politics and exploitation by the controllers of capitalism (corps) ...

I mean , who else is supposed to control shyt in the capitalist systems besides corps?
Just like civil servants control most of the systems in a socialist system.

Socialism is like a radio.... you just have to turn it on and it's free for everyone... but you still can have you XM and satellite pay stations if you want to have that freedom.
Corporation are legal entities established by govt. and granted special privileges by govt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Capitalism has nothing to do with it. Its a form of govt. regulation that has gone belly up and begun face f*cking the nation. Capitalism is merely the scapegoat.

You keep referencing control, when the idea is for no one to control the economy, and for everyone to have an equal opportunity at advancing within it.
The corps that run the market are not natural*, the are created by the state, as wikipedia will explain, should you be open enough to accept it.
 

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Corporation are legal entities established by govt. and granted special privileges by govt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Capitalism has nothing to do with it. Its a form of govt. regulation that has gone belly up and begun face f*cking the nation. Capitalism is merely the scapegoat.

You keep referencing control, when the idea is for no one to control the economy, and for everyone to have an equal opportunity at advancing within it.
The corps that run the market are not natural*, the are created by the state, as wikipedia will explain, should you be open enough to accept it.

how do you have capitalism without corps ? how do you have corps without exploitation.? how do you have both, in a democracy without - money controlling politics? How do you have an economy without rules,... and the rules have to be created and controlled by someone - so it's completely foolish to believe that all this shyt is not connected and dependent on each other .....



:banderas:believe that there is a type of capitalism that exist that isn't Crony capitalism brehs...
 
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how do you have capitalism without corps ? how do you have corps without exploitation.? how do you have both, in a democracy without - money controlling politics? How do you have an economy without rules,... and the rules have to be created and controlled by someone - so it's completely foolish to believe that all this shyt is not connected and dependent on each other .....


:banderas:believe that there is a type of capitalism that exist that isn't Crony capitalism brehs...
*points out how poor regulation is hurting the environment/business/society*

"its because they had too much regulation in the first place :troll:"
 

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:russ::russ::russ: I knew this providing links to factual data to support my position shyt wouldnt work. Liberals dont care about facts they only care about pushing their agenda nothing else. :deadmanny:
I give, you're right corps are creations of the market, and capitalism and corporatism are the same thing :banderas: lets let the socialism roll.:lawd:

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how do you have capitalism without corps ? how do you have corps without exploitation.? how do you have both, in a democracy without - money controlling politics? How do you have an economy without rules,... and the rules have to be created and controlled by someone - so it's completely foolish to believe that all this shyt is not connected and dependent on each other .....


:banderas:believe that there is a type of capitalism that exist that isn't Crony capitalism brehs...
cronyism and corporate formation is a natural result of capitalist endeavors
 

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Dead7 likes to throw around wikipedia links, here's one for you. Take it to heart and perhaps you can start talking about real shyt for once? Ie arguments based in fact and history that support your view, rather than constructs that only exist in your mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

In a free market, you will end up with a dominant player. Such is the nature of profit maximization and exponential growth. There are plenty of examples where the dominant player thanks to its sheer size and with no help from government squashed competition, innovation ceased, rent seeking behavior began and consequentially the economy and overall progress suffered. For instance retail (Walmart killing local production and retail, turning communities from self-sustainment into mere consumption) or IT (Microsoft killing competing browser, setting back Internet and web development).

Capitalism if left unchecked will profit maximize at the expense of the environment, social welfare, and technological progress. Capitalism has proven insufficient to the task of harnessing human greed into a force for advancement of society.
 

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Did he really just use wal-mart as an example of a big company in a free market ?:deadmanny:

Do you even understand how that fallacy you linked works? :deadmanny:

Capitalism has been insufficient in harnessing greed for advancement? :deadmanny:

Wikipedia isnt a valid source :deadmanny:


I give:snoop: You guys are too much.

You wont counter arguments from sites you approve of :dead: wikipedia not being one of them :dead::dead::dead:


 
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