Really dough, if you believe Outkast is the greatest group of all time.....

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

being from the east coast meant jack chit in terms of record sales.

the only thing that the east coast benefited from in the national exposure is the fact that alot of mag writers were elitists and that the rap city top 10 used to be biased as figgety-f**k. but that stuff didnt translate to record sales and l.a. reid's boys(outkast AND GOODIE MOB) had the luxury of never getting caught up in the bumrush. not to mention that the dungeon family always appealed to the elitist types. like dude said, kast was a commercially viable version of souls of mischief when they came out.....and from there, they became arrested development advanced.

 

[kermit da hustla]

I do.

better than the lox? than wu?

 

[Big Mel]

Yet even with an east coast magazine bias', Southernplayalistic got 4 1/2 mics. Goodie got 4.


It's funny.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

in no way are outkast comparable to drake's situation... this is just a perfect example of why folk dont respect nor take your opinions seriously on this site.

im ignoring the rest of your comments

youre "ignoring" my comments because you have no answer for them. youve spewed absolutely nothing but misinformation and bullchit that youre making up on the fly. thats why you desperately push the idea of hurling insults.

im also convinced that the majority of you outkast stans had absolutely no clue about the already thriving atlanta music scene or the history of outkast's record label until this thread.

 

[Big Mel]

whats brian mcknight, another bad creation and arrested development got to do with things? im talkin about goodie mob.... and no they didn't get spin in new york .....

all those names listed were commerically-accessible... goodie mob weren't, just like the wu. and no i NEVER alluded to them making records as strong as the wu and to deserve an equal footing..... but they both basically started off on the same level.... only wu prospered in the standpoint that they were from the eastcoast..... i don;t know how many times i need to repeat myself but when are you gonna acknowledge that 'staten island was looked at as foreign as acts from atlanta' is false?

stay grounded? yeah you'd know all about that... cause you aint willing to move any foot, in giving the deserved-props to acts outside the east coast.

You're clinging to my staten island comment because it's maybe the only straw you've got left to grab at.

You think labels were scoping out staten island talent? Really? UMCs didn't exactly set the world on fire. Believe me labels think in terms of copycatting what's hot. Regions and all. It's how we got chingy.

So yeah, staten island serving up a hip hop powerhouse was pretty left field at the time.


Now, back to Goodie Mob. An Organized Noize produced full length on the heels of Outkast going platinum full of soul soothing "good Ol fashioned soooooul food..well well" cee lo helmed songs was a viable product. They were a solid, gold selling group.

Critically acclaimed, commercially respectable.


Unlike the Gang Starr album out around the same time that couldn't break a few hundred thousand.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yet even with an east coast magazine bias', Southernplayalistic got 4 1/2 mics. Goodie got 4.


It's funny.

i can see that you'll ALWAYS have both feet firmly 'stuck in the ground'.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

^this dude is dumb.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're clinging to my staten island comment because it's maybe the only straw you've got left to grab at.

no because i left this thread to die and i saw that comment you made.... thats what ive been arguing against since i re-entered.

You think labels were scoping out staten island talent? Really? UMCs didn't exactly set the world on fire. Believe me labels think in terms of copycatting what's hot. Regions and all. It's how we got chingy.

you gon really bring up the u.m.c's in comparision to the wu

Now, back to Goodie Mob. An Organized Noize produced full length on the heels of Outkast going platinum full of soul soothing "good Ol fashioned soooooul food..well well" cee lo helmed songs was a viable product. They were a solid, gold selling group.

Critically acclaimed, commercially respectable.


Unlike the Gang Starr album out around the same time that couldn't break a few hundred thousand.

yeah, their album sales were spiked due to outkast-affiliation but like i said that was mostly from out west. they didn't get play in the east coast, khujo/gipp/ceelo have all made reference to this as well. then they dropped still standing(before aquemini), which was on level with soul food.... and wasn't received well at all.... and didn't get play and was a dud record-sales wise (regarding the east coast), whereas wu dropped 'forever' around the same time and got a grammy and went 4x platinum.

again, ive already covered the sales argument (involving gangstarr). no point going back over that.

 

[Wacky D]

goodie mob is the group that 1st woke me up to radio politics & favors. i remember they called into power 99 and then "soul food" started poppin up on the countdown all a sudden.

lol @ the dungeon family not getting radio play on the east coast.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

goodie mob is the group that 1st woke me up to radio politics & favors. i remember they called into power 99 and then "soul food" started poppin up on the countdown all a sudden.

lol @ the dungeon family not getting radio play on the east coast.

i was referencing to new york... not no philly station. plus i dont mean goodie mob got ZERO airplay..... use your brain. but the difference between wu getting play and goodie mob getting play on the eastcoast.... was/is night and day.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

why should they get as much play as wutang?

outside of local rappers, philly and new york radio play the same chit.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Big Mel

36 chambers helped new york/east coast in their revivial... so how the fukk could wu-tang be looked at as foreign as a group the represented the south?

 

[Big Mel]

Still Standing received critical acclaim and struck gold again. It was a notch below Soul Food quality wise, darker, more political and thought provoking.

How am I teaching this guy about hus favorite acts?


Anyways, the label saw that they werent gaining any fans, and perhaps even lost some, and pressured them into completely selling out on World Party.....which still went gold.

 

[Wacky D]

i think the point is, atlanta was already a powerhouse while staten island had virtually nothing going for them.

laface/arista was the pinnacle of mainstream success in urban music.

 

[Big Mel]

@Big Mel

36 chambers helped new york/east coast in their revivial... so how the fukk could wu-tang be looked at as foreign as a group the represented the south?

Well, they're from new york, genius.

Forget the staten island/Atlanta shyt. I don't think you see the direction I was headed with that thought.

I was speaking to an unlikely rise to prominence. 9 dusty industry rejects from the b*stard borough versus a R&B powerhouses foray into slick talkin' rap from the Motown of da souf.


It clearly went over yor head.