We know what atheism is, and we know it doesn't function with the same rationale as "organized religion". The question is why are you measuring them with the same scale?
Don't mince words. Science is tangible. Faith is not. Faith works on the principle of not having tangible proof. You need to reassess on how you think two separate entities of structure, who have polar opposite laws and principles are equally as bad as one another - all in the fold of one making a claim and the other not.
The irony.You're so wrapped up in this shyt you can't even see straight.
i) We did not need to agree on a pre-definition of Atheism for me to explain to you that organized religion has polar opposite laws and principles. ii) Atheism can't possibly be just as bad, because it works on an entirely different rule. Only other organized religions can be just as bad as one another, because they're the ones that make the claim, under the nature of what isn't tangibly proven.According to some of your fellows atheists in here we've made up our own definition of atheism to argue against. I wanted to avoid that happening again.
By definition is faith and religion the same thing? No. Do we need to walk back on the stones in order for you to stop playing dumb and stay within the context? It certainly looks like it.Faith and religion are not the same thing you're changing goalposts now. Atheism is just as bad as any organised religion for the reasons I've stated previously.
I don't believe in the tooth fairy, I don't try and off load my views onto everyone else, if you don't believe why you feel the need to convert people
So either you're not aware you're a troll or you don't want to admit you're a troll. Yes.The image seen is of self, not a parody. You didn't answer my question.
Prove a creator does not exist.
Quote me on talking about them.Prove leprechauns don't exist
I have seen more atheist do this than religious people, sure there are religious people who shyt on atheist for not believing in god. But literally 95% of atheist don't mind their own business. See a guy like Napolean to a regular religious user here, Napolean tries to push his agenda aggressively every day while the other guy doesn't care or does it very passively.I don't understand the thought process of this - like somehow the vice versa of this isn't true?
The irony.
I'm not the one who's resorting to corny, self-important throwaway "privedged" comments. The fact you think your life has more importance than a person who you have little-to-no knowledge of, speaks volumes about how confused and delusional YOU are.
i) We did not need to agree on a pre-definition of Atheism for me to explain to you that organized religion has polar opposite laws and principles. ii) Atheism can't possibly be just as bad, because it works on an entirely different rule. Only other organized religions can be just as bad as one another, because they're the ones that make the claim, under the nature of what isn't tangibly proven.
By definition is faith and religion the same thing? No. Do we need to walk back on the stones in order for you to stop playing dumb and stay within the context? It certainly looks like it.
Because you made the claim. I have no issue with answering your questions, I do however have issue with you turning around and making me the 'prove-your-point' party. Don't say you can jump yay high with a direct visual hand signal and then ask me what I think the definition of jump is.Why do you define the context of this discourse? You want me to answer your questions but only in the parameters you set?
Yes this reeks of self-importance -I'm self important? I didn't need to entertain you at all I'm at peace with my world view and have been for years this shyt is shenanigans to me. You're the one in here demanding I explain my line of reasoning to you.
You don't know how privedged you are to have this exchange with me don't be ignorant yout.
Laws and principles of what make up "organized religions" and atheism aren't subjective - they're polar opposites. Why are you still having a hard time comprehending this? This is the very reason why I purposefully didn't allow you to twist this into being a coginate discussion and why I didn't provide a bullet point exemplar of the bad fruit that one may eat from the religion tree, knowing full well you'd turn this into some smart dumb faux-existential nihilism coverup to mask your inability to have a coherent discussion.Like I said I do this my g! The concepts you are dealing with are basic darg, science vs religion is level 1 shyt. I don't know how you can presume to enter into an existential debate when you still talk in subjective terms.
Yet here you are using pompous "man-made" concepts to quantify how your speck of being has more importance than another speak of being in "an infinite universe", with only the knowledge of a few keyboard strokes. Do you take pride in stabbing yourself with your own knife?Smart dumb nikkas like you want to use finite man made concepts like reason and logic to quantify an infinite universe and when the shyt doesn't fit you start talking about stay within the context.
This is beyond corny.You keep saying im playing dumb/dense I just wont allow you to put words in my mouth or divert the convo down a different path. Im a serious brother my yout you're not going to roll me.
You've experienced more atheists "trash" religious folk, than religious folk denounce non-believers? I don't see how that is possible.I have seen more atheist do this than religious people, sure there are religious people who shyt on atheist for not believing in god.
Where exactly are you getting these percentages from?But literally 95% of atheist don't mind their own business.
Ah yes, I thought this would be the case. ONE person doesn't equate to 95%. ONE person's personality and approach isn't the same as every other atheist's.See a guy like Napolean to a regular religious user here, Napolean tries to push his agenda aggressively every day while the other guy doesn't care or does it very passively.
i agree of course he wasnt magic, but the thought of him being white is a ridiculous. its basic geographyJesus is a brown man, just like the Jews were 2000 years ago..
You seem like you're ready to join us in that #AgonsticLife brotherI think the point with atheism that makes theism so incredulous is that you can believe anything....literally anything. So, ok, no atheist will never know for certain that god exists. But a Christian can never know for certain that their or other gods do not exist either. How do theist know they're worshiping the right god? What if Christianity is the wrong religion to follow? Just because you happened to be born into a religion or because its popular in your region of the world where you live doesn't make it right. what if the correct one is from some long dead and gone culture that worshipped the sun or some shyt?
Personally, I'm a Deist. Me and my family has been fukked over by various different churches and denominations for years and years. My parents still read the bible, but i've since disassociated myself with organized religion altogether. I beleive that there is something out there that may have sparked the creation of the universe, but I really don't feel like it goes much further than that. It really doesn't care or hell, it probably doesn't even know that we exist, but I think that there is something out that that (with relation to humans) has seemingly "god-like" powers...and no, its not watching and judging everything we do, nor does it care if we eat shellfish or wear clothing to two different fabrics.
And I know people feel very strongly about their faiths because it feels good and it feel real to them when you get caught up in it, but you really need to evaluate why it makes you feel good.
I have seen 100s napoleans online, w.e I don't really care. As long as you are respective of others..I could care less what you believe in and what you don'tYou've experienced more atheists "trash" religious folk, than religious folk denounce non-believers? I don't see how that is possible.
Where exactly are you getting these percentages from?
Ah yes, I thought this would be the case. ONE person doesn't equate to 95%. ONE person's personality and approach isn't the same as every other atheist's.