Re-watched superman: man of steel...GREAT MOVIE

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The first Christopher Reeves superman is a damn classic, despite its goofiness and age it proved that comic book movies can indeed make for classic cinema.



This scene always had me tearing up a bit, it being one of the first scenes that warns clark that although he has powers, some things even to him are out of his hands. He learns the harsh lessons of death and the value of life. Its just as good as the snyder version, where Jonathan Kent sacrifices himself in order keep Clark's powers a secret so that he can continue to live a normal life.
 
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It's an origin story, it's not about him being a some seasoned pro. Man of steel is about him learning who he is, what he will and wont do.

So we get a scene of him downing a drone afterwards, but nothing reflecting on killing the last member of his race....after he made the choice to destroy the ship full of designer babies?


Funny you should mention learning about who he is....So when Zod announces the invasion Clark goes to pose in front of a Jesus picture at church and not, ya know go ask a fully interactive AI of his father that we just watch educate him on his heritage.
 

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So we get a scene of him downing a drone afterwards, but nothing reflecting on killing the last member of his race....after he made the choice to destroy the ship full of designer babies?


Funny you should mention learning about who he is....So when Zod announces the invasion Clark goes to pose in front of a Jesus picture at church and not, ya know go ask a fully interactive AI of his father that we just watch educate him on his heritage.
It's simple... Zod left him no choice. If he lets Zod live, he kills humanity. He had destroy the ship to stop the World Engine, and to disrupt the controls. He downs a drone because he chose to work with humanity, but will not take a side with any one country. He doesn't reflect on it, as we already see his scene of grief and remorse. It stays with him, which is why he tries not to kill. The babies were in the ship, and part of the collateral damage. Ultimately, they were just fetuses, and not compatible with life. They needed the codex in Superman's blood.

Superman seeks spiritual guidance from someone he trusts, in the belief he was raised with. He also doesn't chose to fight them based on that, but offers himself up to meet them personally. It isn't until Zod reveals his plan that he decides to fight back. His father's AI basically confirms Kal-El's fears.
 
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It's simple... Zod left him no choice. If he lets Zod live, he kills humanity. He had destroy the ship to stop the World Engine, and to disrupt the controls. He downs a drone because he chose to work with humanity, but will not take a side with any one country. He doesn't reflect on it, as we already see his scene of grief and remorse. It stays with him, which is why he tries not to kill. The babies were in the ship, and part of the collateral damage. Ultimately, they were just fetuses, and not compatible with life. They needed the codex in Superman's blood.

Superman seeks spiritual guidance from someone he trusts, in the belief he was raised with. He also doesn't chose to fight them based on that, but offers himself up to meet them personally. It isn't until Zod reveals his plan that he decides to fight back. His father's AI basically confirms Kal-El's fears.


You restating what happened doesn’t change the fact that in the context of Man of Steel we never see Superman reflect on his killing of Zod outside of the initial reaction. We literally have no idea how it impacted him based on what’s in the film. I bought up the drone scene because that was what they thought was important enough to show us as opposed to how having to kill affected him.

And the priest thing doesn’t make sense. 1) he literally had access to a computer program that could have given him intel on the impending threat that he didn’t consult. And even we accept the seeking guidance from a trusted source, there’s no good reason for him not to consult with space dad after he talks to the priest. Jor-el literally had a 3 minutes solution to the invasion, that he revealed pretty much the minute he’s activated when the plot needed it. And 2) there is nothing before that scene or after it to indicate that Superman is even remotely religious enough to go to a priest at that time. We had flashbacks of pa telling Supes to let kids die and committing suicide, we can’t get a flashback to Supes in Sunday school.

The priest thing makes as much narrative sense as jumping out a space ship to save Lois and hitting the crucifix pose.
 

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so you ignored various scenes of him willingly saving people throughout the film?
Ambivalent

- having mixed feelings or contradictory ideas about something or someone.

The turnibg point of MoS was Clark's memories of Pa Kent filling his head with doubt of saving ppl and that church scene. This theme is revisited again BvS with Ma Kent telling Clark that he owes the world nothing....Then again JL after Clark comes back to life.

Snyder's Superman doesnt like being Superman because its a burden he doesnt feel ready to bare. Cool storyline for a superhero, out of character for Superman. This character is literally capable of ruling the world or ignoring it completely yet he chooses to get involved, happily. Superman isnt Spiderman.
 
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He could've already been going around helping people without the use of his powers, doing charity, whatever. It's not that hard to make a character a good person by nature until you decide to make it hard.

Again.. what movie were you watching? He was rescuing people all throughout the film and not because anyone told him to. You can be skeptical of humans but still have compassion and empathy for them which he did...
 

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You've written about it a million times because nobody here agrees with your bullet points. Just accept that the movie was good and people liked it. :manny:
If that was really true brehs wouldn't be making this thread every couple months still trying to seek acknowledgment for this film. :mjgrin:
 
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If that was really true brehs wouldn't be making this thread every couple months still trying to seek acknowledgment for this film. :mjgrin:

Maybe they like talking about the film? The positive posts always get way more daps than the negative ones :mjlol: There's so many Man of Steel threads came out right around when SOHH came to be the coli :ahh:
 

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Maybe they like talking about the film? The positive posts always get way more daps than the negative ones :mjlol: There's so many Man of Steel threads came out right around when SOHH came to be the coli :ahh:
Yet within the first two posts there's already a narrative asking why it got so much criticism, people trying to rationalize as to why people didn't like it, etc. etc.

Folks could just accept that a bunch of people think the film isn't good and let them live but they insecurity is a bytch I guess?
 
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Yet within the first two posts there's already a narrative asking why it got so much criticism, people trying to rationalize as to why people didn't like it, etc. etc.

Critics were mixed. More critics liked it that didn't. The ones who didn't only didn't like it because they wanted more Donner. Fans loved Man of Steel. We stopped caring about critics a while ago.

Sorry breh your narrative ain't catching on :manny:
 
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