Raptors Fire Nick Nurse

[staticshock]

Nurse, if we are being real, has some fatal flaws as a coach. Those things showed up in bright neon lights this year. Ultimately, the Raptors organization has always been about internal development under Masai and Nurse failed at developing any of our players over the last two years. Everyone regressed this season, the play style was ugly, the defensive scheme was nonsensical, the offence was iso-centric despite having poor isolation players, minutes were mismanaged on almost a nightly basis leading to late game collapses, and bench players were inexplicably moved in and out of the rotation. I knew he was gonna get fired by how long it took for Masai to schedule this press conference.

I also think he lost the room. Siakam doesn’t seem to vibe with Nick. Fred doesn’t seem to like how the team has evolved. Scottie, who is the hope of the franchise, seemed like a guy Nick didn’t really like that much. I’m sure Gary isn’t a fan of Nick. I imagine our young players aren’t a fan because they never get a chance to play consistently.

Which brings me to a point that was probably the dealbreaker for Masai. It’s clear that Masai feels that one or two of these g-league guys can play in the league. But whether or not they can play, we have spent two years not being able to find out because Nurse wouldn’t play them. And if Nurse doesn’t play them then they can’t be evaluated against NBA competition so it’s impossible to know if they should be moved or retained. Maybe some of those guys can develop well enough to add to a trade or make space to trade someone else? Who knows? We don’t. And I’m sure that this contributed greatly to the move.

Personally, I thought Nurse deserved a year or at least half a season to redeem himself but Masai and them probably had enough reason and enough history to make the move. I ain’t mad at it.

I hope whoever takes over this team can play the style suited to this roster…fast, uptempo, transition basketball with free flowing offence based on ball and player movement and switching everything on D (except for Poetl).

I still think that Nurse didn’t truly commit to the lengthy wings thing and I still believe it’s a strategy that can work. But even if it can’t, Nurse didn’t lean into it at all. Can’t keep your job if you don’t give the boss an opportunity to see if the experiment they’re trying can be successful. It just seriously undermines your boss’ ability to do their jobs.

The head coach does not develop players. Teams literally have a position called “developmental coach”.

 

[In The Zone '98]

The head coach does not develop players. Teams literally have a position called “developmental coach”.

Say it again.

An NBA coach plays the best 9 players mgnt gives him.

 

[staticshock]

Say it again.

An NBA coach plays the best 9 players mgnt gives him.

I’m trying to be respectful but a head coach of an NBA team is not doing drills and developing players, & I can’t see how folks don’t understand that. They have too much on their plate..that’s why teams have developmental coaches.

 

[CP3.]

You don’t watch Raptors games.

Which part did you disagree with?

Did Masai fukk up by being as deluded as the Raptors fanbase? Yes.

Is Nurse your best ever coach? Yes. This one isn't even debatable.

Are you gonna be ass for the next few years anyway? Also yes.

But y'all hire Ime and act like you're gonna be contending if you want. Like I give two fukks

 

[Guess Who]

I’m trying to be respectful but a head coach of an NBA team is not doing drills and developing players, & I can’t see how folks don’t understand that. They have too much on their plate..that’s why teams have developmental coaches.

Who makes the decisions of whether a player plays or not?

How do you know if what a player is developing in practice can work in real game?

 

[BobbyWojak]

Would not mind him at all coaching the knicks

Knicks are doing fine why change anything

 

[Guess Who]

Which part did you disagree with?

Did Masai fukk up by being as deluded as the Raptors fanbase? Yes.

Is Nurse your best ever coach? Yes. This one isn't even debatable.

Are you gonna be ass for the next few years anyway? Also yes.

But y'all hire Ime and act like you're gonna be contending if you want. Like I give two fukks

Haha listen my guy, I could care less if you, random poster on the internet, gives two fukks.

My point is that the roster has problems and Nick Nurse is a good coach overall, but nonetheless he didn’t do a good job in the situation that he’s been put in. If you watched Raptors games you’d be able to diagnose the actual problems.

 

[CP3.]

Haha listen my guy, I could care less if you, random poster on the internet, gives two fukks.

My point is that the roster has problems and Nick Nurse is a good coach overall, but nonetheless he didn’t do a good job in the situation that he’s been put in. If you watched Raptors games you’d be able to diagnose the actual problems.

Breh you're in this thread talking about stuff like "Masai thinks these G League guys can maybe play but Nurse didn't give them minutes". No shyt he didn't. The roster is largely trash. Your best player is Siakam which says it all. Masai is more responsible for Toronto's problems than Nurse is. When Masai is thinking that he has the prime Warriors roster while simultaneously wanting scrubs to get more minutes, that's when your season was fukked and no coach is saving that.

Your complaints just sound like the kind of complaints every fan has with their team. Wanna see younger/lesser guys get some PT to prove themselves but there's obviously a reason they don't get the minutes. The coach sees them every day in practice.

And I don't need to watch every Raps game to see that either.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Knicks are doing fine why change anything

Because fukk thibs thats why.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Ime should hold out for a better position. As it stands now that’s a rebuilding team. Plus who’s to say Ujiri will stay? He might decide that he needs to go somewhere else.

If I was a GM that needed to rebuild a team like the Wiz have more appealing trade assets than the Raps do. With that said, Ime should hold out for a better gig.

 

[feelosofer]

Nick Nurse is the fall guy for a GM who did not do enough to improve the roster after Leonard left. Too many redundant players and not enough wheeling and dealing to keep the roster fresh and competitive.

 

[42 Monks]

The head coach does not develop players. Teams literally have a position called “developmental coach”.

you only say this because you've had to watch trae go nowhere but backwards and sabotage every coach he's had along the way

 

[staticshock]

you only say this because you've had to watch trae go nowhere but backwards and sabotage every coach he's had along the way

Ain’t you a Hornets fan?

Trae at least been to the ECF. Have y’all nikkas even made the playoffs with Melo?

 

[MikelArteta]

Ime should hold out for a better position. As it stands now that’s a rebuilding team. Plus who’s to say Ujiri will stay? He might decide that he needs to go somewhere else.

If I was a GM that needed to rebuild a team like the Wiz have more appealing trade assets than the Raps do. With that said, Ime should hold out for a better gig.

please tell me what other franchise would give masai urjiri 20 million a year right now?

thats how much he's getting paid right now

 

[MikelArteta]

Haha listen my guy, I could care less if you, random poster on the internet, gives two fukks.

My point is that the roster has problems and Nick Nurse is a good coach overall, but nonetheless he didn’t do a good job in the situation that he’s been put in. If you watched Raptors games you’d be able to diagnose the actual problems.

I wouldn't even say nick nurse is the greatest raptors coach ever

you give dwane casey kawaii leonard instead of demar derozan and raps would have won that year as well.

Casey even won 59 games once with derozan and kyle lowry.