Rappers gotta chill on the jewelry/money talk...
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i see what they were trying to do but this song is wack, poorly executed.
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
Did you really name Deion Sanders, and MC Hammer?
Deion Sanders wasn't even taken seriously like that, and MC Hammer was done by then. Even He was trying to go the gangster rap style by 1993. MC Hammer wasn't a rapper like the ones today, so I don't know why you named him.
MY man, I know people who had super nintendo, or sega genesis, but I don't know people who own a bugatti, pushing tons of keys, spending tons of money on strippers every week, and getting high of of different drugs. At least people who are worth something, meaning that money will last, and they aren't spending up their reup money just to front. You are comparing things people can eventually get to things that are not realistic for most people, or pople who aren't trying to fukk up their life.
Yeah C.R.E.A.M rapped about making 40 g's a week, but most of the song is also about the downfalls of life, and how to maintain which takes C.R.E.A.M. They were not saying we make 40 g's a week to spend on hoes, and buy them red bottoms. Again, I don't see nothing wrong with this once in a while, but damn near every songs?
nikka, Mafioso rap was all about rapping about excess, regardless of how you word it... or what aspects you speak on.
MC Hammer had 19 racehorses, a Mansion,KFC endorsements, 200 people on his payroll and blew 30 M's...and regardless of how you feel about him, he was a rapper....he's what all these rappers get warned to not be.
breh, Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis were damn near $200...for the system alone, and games were $60... back in fukking 1994...Biggie was rapping bout some shyt, that was more than some peoples rent.
look at how much that shyt cost, in 97... but nah, that don't count right?
Rappers have always bragged about shyt regular people didn't have/couldn't do/didn't live....but y'all got a problem with it now?
The fact you even tried to kick that " it wasn't cool to act like you were ballin in the 90's" when NYC rappers were playing mafia, and giving themselves Italian Gangster names...is utter bullshyt.
Didn't Ghostface just brag about having his Jesus Piece and Gold Eagle back in 94?
again....some of you just like to type shiit out
Megatron is right. yall want rap catered to you. but it wont be & yall wont accept it. but yall still wanna type these essays out when u have control to just play the music you want
Megatron is right. yall want rap catered to you. but it wont be & yall wont accept it. but yall still wanna type these essays out when u have control to just play the music you want
nikka, Mafioso rap was all about rapping about excess, regardless of how you word it... or what aspects you speak on.
MC Hammer had 19 racehorses, a Mansion,KFC endorsements, 200 people on his payroll and blew 30 M's...and regardless of how you feel about him, he was a rapper....he's what all these rappers get warned to not be.
breh, Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis were damn near $200...for the system alone, and games were $60... back in fukking 1994...Biggie was rapping bout some shyt, that was more than some peoples rent.
look at how much that shyt cost, in 97... but nah, that don't count right?
Rappers have always bragged about shyt regular people didn't have/couldn't do/didn't live....but y'all got a problem with it now?
The fact you even tried to kick that " it wasn't cool to act like you were ballin in the 90's" when NYC rappers were playing mafia, and giving themselves Italian Gangster names...is utter bullshyt.
Didn't Ghostface just brag about having his Jesus Piece and Gold Eagle back in 94?
My man, MC Hammer HAD those things, NOT rapping about it. Why don't you understand this?.
A lot of people had super nintendo, I had one. My friend had super genesis, and we weren't rich. We didn't buy a lot of the games, we rented them or we just traded games with each other. If someone had to pay $200 for rent in 1994, they were living good, because rent was NOT that cheap.
As far as Ghostface, and his Jesus Piece or GOld Eagle. You can go to chinatown, and get those made. In fact, I seen a member of Mobb Deeps click going out there to get him some Jewels. You may have though it was real, but it wasn't. Even if it was, there is a difference between spending some money on a chain, and spending money on a rolex watch with diamonds in it.
Also, I stated things changed in 1996 right around the mafioso talk came about, and even then it was believable. Puffy, and Jay-Z changed everything when they stunted harder then everyone else. Even though it was entertainment, people started taking things too far, and we are where we are at now. Little kids think they should have an iphone, when all they need is some cheap phone. The problem is the parents are lost, and passing this shyt on.
Look man, you can see things how you want to see it, but there is a difference between how people are materialistic now as opposed to then. It's just a natural progression, BUT you have to know when it's gone too far, or you will have too many people out here who think they are losers because they don't have a big house or brand new 600 benz, or not in the club popping bottles rocking $300 jeans. This nonstop materialsim is why a lot of women are in debt, they really think they aren't living life if they don't have a brand new iphone, a $200 weave, some red bottoms, and a man spending money on them all the time. They watch these videos, and real housewives shyt, and take the shyt too far. The sad thing, men are following them, and act just like them.
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
Dude said he had both...and a fukking 50" TV to play them on. keep thinking that rapping about something that costs over $400 in 1994 wasn't expensive.
you're forgetting, the shyt you are lamenting about...was around in the 80's... where did you think the term Yuppies came from?
Overly materialistic young people who find status in expensive things,new fads and constantly finding themselves live beyond their means... is a new thing?
cause kids wasn't dying over Jordans in the 80's, Pagers and Cell Phones weren't a sign of status, and nobody was balling hard right?
why do y'all think that hip hop caused societal issues (Materialism/ Keeping up with the Joneses) that existed years before it?
Dude said he had both...and a fukking 50" TV to play them on. keep thinking that rapping about something that costs over $400 in 1994 wasn't expensive.
you're forgetting, the shyt you are lamenting about...was around in the 80's... where did you think the term Yuppies came from?
Overly materialistic young people who find status in expensive things,new fads and constantly finding themselves live beyond their means... is a new thing?
cause kids wasn't dying over Jordans in the 80's, Pagers and Cell Phones weren't a sign of status, and nobody was balling hard right?
This is it, because you are reaching now.
A 50" tv, and a gaming system is NOT the same as driving a lambo, 600 benz, or a bugatti. Plus, the song was about him not being poor anymore, that is why he named those things. He stated "when I was dead broke, man I couldn't picture this".
Yuppies WORKED for what they had, they were corporate people. They were not the average person walking around, talking about these extravagant things, and finding different hustles to get them.
Of course kids being materialistic isn't new, but you are comparing sneakers that you can go to ANY sneaker store to get with something that is not so easy. Only certain people had a cellphone, and pager. The average person wasn't hustling to have those things, they just came along because they were able to afford them, and they NEEDED them. Now, people are hustling to afford the cellphones, and other bullshyt. Also, the average person didn't have those things. You know how much a cellphone cost monthly for each call?
No one is saying all of this rappers fault, but they helped make this problem. The fans helped, as well as the artists. I don't understand how can black people complain about the issues we have, see kids acting just like these entertainers, then turn around, and say "it's just entertainment"?. Then wonder why the shyt is corny to a lot of people, and nobody is buying the shyt, at least legally.
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
This is it, because you are reaching now.
A 50" tv, and a gaming system is NOT the same as driving a lambo, 600 benz, or a bugatti. Plus, the song was about him not being poor anymore, that is why he named those things. He stated "when I was dead broke, man I couldn't picture this".
Yuppies WORKED for what they had, they were corporate people. They were not the average person walking around, talking about these extravagant things, and finding different hustles to get them.
Of course kids being materialistic isn't new, but you are comparing sneakers that you can go to ANY sneaker store to get with something that is not so easy. Only certain people had a cellphone, and pager. The average person wasn't hustling to have those things, they just came along because they were able to afford them, and they NEEDED them. Now, people are hustling to afford the cellphones, and other bullshyt. Also, the average person didn't have those things. You know how much a cellphone cost monthly for each call?
No one is saying all of this rappers fault, but they helped make this problem. The fans helped, as well as the artists. I don't understand how can black people complain about the issues we have, see kids acting just like these entertainers, then turn around, and say "it's just entertainment"?. Then wonder why the shyt is corny to a lot of people, and nobody is buying the shyt, at least legally.
This is real rich breh... Biggie bragging bout having two game systems, a 50" TV and a phone bill that's $2,000 isn't materialistic or braggadocio at all... it's just him rapping about how he's not broke anymore
real talk tho, Rappers are riding round in expensive luxury cars...and have been for 30 years.
Jordans are still a big deal to people,if they weren't people wouldn't be dying over them since 1985.... and "regular" people did have brick phones,car phones and pagers...you wanna act like people didn't have them?
The things you're complaining about, have been there from the start.
Face it....people aren't buying the music anymore, cause the internet made it much easier to not have to do so anymore....its a fact, it had nothing to do with the quality of the music... it's like you don't remember why Limewire and Napster got shut down.
we're in an age where most of america has the internet/a computer, and more and more of us have smartphones... the internet/computer isn't a luxury like it was in the 90's.
why buy music, when i can get it for free, and most times before it even gets to the store? it's as simple as that.
Your issue lies in the ills of society as a whole, not the music a small niche of such society produces.
This is real rich breh... Biggie bragging bout having two game systems, a 50" TV and a phone bill that's $2,000 isn't materialistic or braggadocio at all... it's just him rapping about how he's not broke anymore
real talk tho, Rappers are riding round in expensive luxury cars...and have been for 30 years.
Jordans are still a big deal to people,if they weren't people wouldn't be dying over them since 1985.... and "regular" people did have brick phones,car phones and pagers...you wanna act like people didn't have them?
The things you're complaining about, have been there from the start.
Face it....people aren't buying the music anymore, cause the internet made it much easier to not have to do so anymore....its a fact, it had nothing to do with the quality of the music... it's like you don't remember why Limewire and Napster got shut down.
we're in an age where most of america has the internet/a computer, and more and more of us have smartphones... the internet/computer isn't a luxury like it was in the 90's.
why buy music, when i can get it for free, and most times before it even gets to the store? it's as simple as that.
Your issue lies in the ills of society as a whole, not the music a small niche of such society produces.
Forget it.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
it is not the content.
as the content as been assimilated and wrenched from having cultural significance.
so, the content will never feature duality from a mainstream level.
the real issue is,...
the actual low level skill that must be raised.
if the skill of the rapper was higher from a technical standpoint.
more rappers would draw.
since rappers lack technical skill, dexterity and most importantly convincability.
they will continue to lack being able to build a substantial draw.
the day is over of the rapper who is black.
who can come out and have a cosign and sell consistently.
if that black rapper never shows an evolution of skill.
or a solid base skillwise, in his recordings.
you can expect that rapper to continue to suffer from the destruction of his draw as soon as he is released.
art barr
as the content as been assimilated and wrenched from having cultural significance.
so, the content will never feature duality from a mainstream level.
the real issue is,...
the actual low level skill that must be raised.
if the skill of the rapper was higher from a technical standpoint.
more rappers would draw.
since rappers lack technical skill, dexterity and most importantly convincability.
they will continue to lack being able to build a substantial draw.
the day is over of the rapper who is black.
who can come out and have a cosign and sell consistently.
if that black rapper never shows an evolution of skill.
or a solid base skillwise, in his recordings.
you can expect that rapper to continue to suffer from the destruction of his draw as soon as he is released.
art barr
I agree with threadstarter. Why would I purchase a rapper's cd when all I'm gonna hear is how much money he makes and all the fancy things he owns? And I just contributed to his wealth by spending money on his cd? Hell naw, I'm straight. Add in the fact that 90% of rappers today SUCK. This is why sales have declined heavily
Malik
Superstar
This is real rich breh... Biggie bragging bout having two game systems, a 50" TV and a phone bill that's $2,000 isn't materialistic or braggadocio at all... it's just him rapping about how he's not broke anymore
real talk tho, Rappers are riding round in expensive luxury cars...and have been for 30 years.
Jordans are still a big deal to people,if they weren't people wouldn't be dying over them since 1985.... and "regular" people did have brick phones,car phones and pagers...you wanna act like people didn't have them?
The things you're complaining about, have been there from the start.
Face it....people aren't buying the music anymore, cause the internet made it much easier to not have to do so anymore....its a fact, it had nothing to do with the quality of the music... it's like you don't remember why Limewire and Napster got shut down.
we're in an age where most of america has the internet/a computer, and more and more of us have smartphones... the internet/computer isn't a luxury like it was in the 90's.
why buy music, when i can get it for free, and most times before it even gets to the store? it's as simple as that.
Your issue lies in the ills of society as a whole, not the music a small niche of such society produces.
Word. I guess Biggie was talking about working at McDonalds here
Rap has always been about how "Im that nikka, I got more money than you, I fukked your bytch, you're a lame and I'm flyer than you"......ALWAYS. Arguing otherwise is just
This song boils down to: "I cant stop getting bytches. I fukk a new bytch everynight, its tiring actually"
Its a fukking classic though
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Most of my music on the flash drive is wav format .. and for any mp3 files compression is 320 KBps .. Idk what type of puertorican low quality files yall getting but as a DJ I know about hte importance of studio quality music.
No it doesn't. Negros don't buy music. White people do. Always been the case. And whites have even learned that why purchase an album when once it leaks 2 weeks before its release date .. everyone is on social media sharing download links ..
Why would you purchase something you can get for free ... Makes no sense. Miss me with all that soul touching bullshyt. What does that have to do with paying for music?
Kendrick Album would have went 3 x Platinum in 2003 with the amount of buzz and talk about it. White people were even checking for this dude heavy. The fact that he's not even platinum yet just shows that Negros do not buy music and whites aren't spending as quickly as they do. It can be seen that the overall music revenue has STEADILY dropped in the last decade year after year. Only one year did it barely beat the other year in sales. Why is that? Simple ... Negros do not PURCHASE music.
No again you miss the point. You want any album go on twitter and type in "(Artist) - (Album) (zippyshare) and you find link to a free download of a grouprip ... NOw explain to me again why would you purchase something you can find by not even running a google search
No one cares about that homie. Negros will not purchase something that is readily available free. Stop with that "art progressing" shyt and think business wise. How can you set a "market value" of an item (the price) when that item also is available all over the internet for free. You cant. Thats not a successful business model. At least with movies, they crack down heavy on torrents and constantly send out cease and desist letters and also people want the FEEL of watching a movie in a movie theater. THe value of music is so little now .. think about it .. A rapper drops an album . You download it .. u dont like it and instantly you say "Recycle Bin" because you didn't buy it. Shyt is disposable. Of course some people will buy the item but you're missing out on 5x the real amount of people that would be buying the product provided they HAD to pay for it rather than it being shoved in their face for free online.
If you're music is in wav format, you had to have had the original CD. You can't take an mp3, and turn it into 16bit 44khz quality. Unless you got it from someone who kept everything in it's original format which is rare. Plus, since you are a DJ, you know things are changing, and companies are thinking of moving towards 24bit quality audio files which will need a fast internet source, and players. This will be their new thing, once they learn how to market it to regular people, and allow them to see the advantages. If they can get suckers to buy beats by dre headphones(garbage, at least the studio versions), they can do that.
You also forgot one thing. You keep stating blacks don't buy the music, which isn't true. Look at how many women buy r&b albums. Anyway, I stated the artist will have to learn to cater to those who will buy the albums. Which means no more of certain styles of rap, since blacks don't support it that much legally. I believe in supporting what I want. If I want to see more good music, then I will buy the good music. If you are always looking for free shyt(not you personally), then you can't complain when shyt gets fukked up, and catered to those who will pay for it. Like you stated, It's a business.
Why do you think certain artist sell, and others don't. If what you state is true, why did Kendrick Lamar sell or Macklamore sell WAY more then these other rappers who are supposed to be the shyt, but aren't showcasing any skills, and say the same bullshyt, do the same type of videos, and wear the same types of clothes?
Also, rap was big in 2003, but not now, which is another reaosn why he didn't sell as much as he could have back then. BUT 2003 records weren't selling as much as they once were. I remember when the shift changed. MTV even had a segment talking about rap records not selling as much, and companies having to make due with what they had. That was the beginning of the decline. Each year you can see how albums stopped selling, while the music kept getting corny. 2007 was when shyt got hella wack, and the albums were not selling. 2006/2007 was the changing of the guards. Kanye saw it coming, and that's why he changed his sound around that time.
