Rappers gotta chill on the jewelry/money talk...

[MegaTronBomb!]

Not really. I like some trap, i love hyphy, and when it comes to partying I fcks w a lot of pop rap, i was just challenging ur ridiculous idea that because a rapper is "rich" then he should only rap about the simplest of materalistic desires. Ur problem is u think the modern mainstream rapper, and his repetitive bullchit, is above criticsm, and that if one doesnt accept a non stop loop of aston martins, dime hoes in the club, and jewelry rap, then were just broke, bitter, losers, which is the exact type groupie mindset which has rap enjoying less popularity in recent years. Thats why i analogized pop rap with junk food....both have their place, but if thats all u mess with then its unhealthy.

Btw, i was talking about rap artists....i dont give a fck about a lady gaga.

i get your analogy, and it's still trash... if all i want to eat is chicken and beer, i'm gonna eat chicken and beer til i don't want to eat it anymore, regardless of any "health" concerns.


The mainstream rapper is not above criticism, but who are you to say he's required to rap about different shyt? Rappers have the right to rap about whatever they want to, just like you have the right to listen to anything you want.

that's why you're entitled, you believe that shyt should be catered to your likes and opinions.

" i don't have to change the radio station, you need to rap about what i want you rap about"


And no, rap hasn't gotten less popular by any means... The fukking President of the United States listens to rap.... but i'm supposed to believe what you're saying.

 

[The Emperor]

i get your analogy, and it's still trash... if all i want to eat is chicken and beer, i'm gonna eat chicken and beer til i don't want to eat it anymore, regardless of any "health" concerns.


The mainstream rapper is not above criticism, but who are you to say he's required to rap about different shyt? Rappers have the right to rap about whatever they want to, just like you have the right to listen to anything you want.

that's why you're entitled, you believe that shyt should be catered to your likes and opinions.

" i don't have to change the radio station, you need to rap about what i want you rap about"


And no, rap hasn't gotten less popular by any means... The fukking President of the United States listens to rap.... but i'm supposed to believe what you're saying.

You should pay rent the way you live in my posts (even though you swear you hate them)

 

[OGmittee]

Only white people take offense to shyt like that, I might say rappers need to rap less about they chainz and money, not cause im jealous or mad, but maybe I just want to here and topic after a while

And rap sales is down because of internet downloading, I dont know 1 black person under the age of 22 who owns a real retail copy of a cd, I sell cds as a lil side hustle, I really burn new shyt and put people on artist before they become mainstream, If I didnt sell them I wouldnt have no room for a physical cd, I also charge people to put music on they phones and ipods, which I buy from itunes (nice day officer

Im a bigger music head then anybody I know and I only brought 1 cd in my entire life, and that was when my cd man went to jail for a week, and I really needed that

Sorry black people just not going buy a cd for 10-15 dollars when we can get for free, or 3 cds for 5 or even 1 cd for 5

And now that everybody has smart phones the cd is really a boutto die, cause only place they get play now a days is in the car, but more and more people learning about aux cords and fm transmitters

Rap sales will never go back to where it was

Sent from the Matrix

 

[bouncy]

TS makes some of the worst threads ever.

nikkas were flooded in Gold in the 80's, but now in 2013 rappers talking about jewelry/money need to chill.

Everybody knows the decline in CD sales is do the the rise of the internet... but fakkits like TS think it's cause of the excessive wealth that rappers are bragging about now ( even tho it's been going on for 30+ years) is why CD sales are dropping.

Rappers weren't bragging about driving Lamborghini, drinking $1200 bottles of champagne, and making it rain on strippers. The stuff they rhymed about a good amount of people went through, and understood. MOST people don't understand the life most of these braggadocios rappers rhyme about, so after a while you could care less about their music IF that is most of the stuff they rhyme about. A lot of materialistic girls like it, because they want a man like that, but they are not true fans. They like you one day, and the next day they hate you. Which is why these type of rappers are hot one day, and cold the next.

BTW, when money wasn't going around from the dealers being locked up or shot up, that style of wearing big time jewelry died down. By the time the 1990's came around, people didn't have money to spend on stuff like that, and hated on rappers who bragged about living big time. LL Cool J got booed at the State building in Harlem at a gathering, because he was still having that big time hustla look, and things changed. That is why he changed his whole style up when "Mama Said Knock You Out" was released. The only time living big time became popular again was with Puffy, and Death Row somewhat. This is why you see nas, and everyone else try to be big time dons, driving rolls royce's, and "real money" cars, after 1996. 1998 was when they started going over the top with it.

 

[bouncy]

basically.

like I said, rap was built off of these bars. we can go back before wax.

Rap was built of having the good life, but there is a difference between "I'm living good, have bad broads, but things are fukked up out here, My lady is getting on my nerves, I just had a child, my people was partying, got drunk, and high, and was wilding, so the police was some a$$holes" to "I have $1200 shoes, jeans, smoke the best weed, fukk all these bad bytches, make it rain in the club, I fukked your bytch, just brought a bugatti or lambo, I get high all day off of pills, weed, and alcohol, I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler, fukk that rapping shyt, I ain't trying to kick knowledge, and you got a regular job, you're a loser".

You don't have to listen to these type of songs, which is EXACTLY what is happening. How can someone listen to songs like this all day, and not FEEL dumb, is something I don't understand. When I would listen to that shyt, and then watch the science channel or some type of political/business show, I really felt like my thinking was at the bottom of the barrel. I keep that shyt to a minimum.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Black people wanna continue to live vicariously through rappers...whites don't & the noveltly of it all has worn off, hopefully we see more thrift shops(not reffering to the bad quality of the song but the redeeming subject matter). Progressing past the get money mantra is a necessity if the genre's doesn't want to become obsolete.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

i get your analogy, and it's still trash... if all i want to eat is chicken and beer, i'm gonna eat chicken and beer til i don't want to eat it anymore, regardless of any "health" concerns.


The mainstream rapper is not above criticism, but who are you to say he's required to rap about different shyt? Rappers have the right to rap about whatever they want to, just like you have the right to listen to anything you want.

that's why you're entitled, you believe that shyt should be catered to your likes and opinions.

" i don't have to change the radio station, you need to rap about what i want you rap about"


And no, rap hasn't gotten less popular by any means... The fukking President of the United States listens to rap.... but i'm supposed to believe what you're saying.

Wtf Is all this "they have a right to rap about whatever they want" sht? I never questioned that right. What is the point of this website, if rappers can just rap how they want, free from criticism? "change the station then"....u can say that about everyone, in every thread. Fck u mean im entitled? Niqqa, i cant have an opinion now, mr i hate the east-coast?

 

[jaydolf spitler]

im a "cac" now? the funny thing is, your whole argument in the post after this reads like it was typed by white fingers.

 

[SubLyminalz]

Rappers weren't bragging about driving Lamborghini, drinking $1200 bottles of champagne, and making it rain on strippers. The stuff they rhymed about a good amount of people went through, and understood. MOST people don't understand the life most of these braggadocios rappers rhyme about, so after a while you could care less about there music IF that is most of the stuff they rhyme about. A lot of materialistic girls like it, because they want a man like that, but they are not true fans. They like you one day, and the next day they hate you. Which is why these type of rappers are hot one day, and cold the next.

BTW, when money wasn't going around from the dealers being locked up or shot up, that style of wearing big time jewelry died down. By the time the 1990's came around, people didn't have money to spend on stuff like that, and hated on rappers who bragged about living big time. LL Cool J got booed at the State building in Harlem at a gathering, because he was still having that big time hustla look, and things changed. That is why he changed his whole style up when "Mama Said Knock You Out" was released. The only time living big time became popular again was with Puffy, and Death Row somewhat. This is why you see nas, and everyone else try to be big time dons, driving rolls royce's, and "real money" cars, after 1996. 1998 was when they started going over the top with it.

so I guess rapping about drinking 40's and henny and chistal smoking "reefor" and driving saabs, beamers, and benz wagons and pagers dosent fall in this category


they rapped about the same stuff but different eras basically, it just that hip hop was much more diverse on a mainstream level then what it is now, u had nikkas like the wu, face, black moon, de la soul, ect on the radio back then at the same time, now u have caclemore, trinidad james and a bunch of other forced acts on the radio now with no diversity and the same damn features on every song which is being pushed now.

if u dont like mainstream music then you dont have to listen to it now whats so hard about that?

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Rappers weren't bragging about driving Lamborghini, drinking $1200 bottles of champagne, and making it rain on strippers. The stuff they rhymed about a good amount of people went through, and understood. MOST people don't understand the life most of these braggadocios rappers rhyme about, so after a while you could care less about there music IF that is most of the stuff they rhyme about. A lot of materialistic girls like it, because they want a man like that, but they are not true fans. They like you one day, and the next day they hate you. Which is why these type of rappers are hot one day, and cold the next.

BTW, when money wasn't going around from the dealers being locked up or shot up, that style of wearing big time jewelry died down. By the time the 1990's came around, people didn't have money to spend on stuff like that, and hated on rappers who bragged about living big time. LL Cool J got booed at the State building in Harlem at a gathering, because he was still having that big time hustla look, and things changed. That is why he changed his whole style up when "Mama Said Knock You Out" was released. The only time living big time became popular again was with Puffy, and Death Row somewhat. This is why you see nas, and everyone else try to be big time dons, driving rolls royce's, and "real money" cars, after 1996. 1998 was when they started going over the top with it.

We gonna act like Deion Sanders didn't drop Must Be The Money in 93,MC Hammer didnt exist or that rappers didn't live excessively and rap about shyt regular nikkas couldn't afford in the early 90's.

Biggie was rapping about having a Super Nintendo and a Sega Genesis in 94...like that wasn't some expensive shyt.

Just cause NYC rappers made looking like you were homeless popular didn't mean that rappers didn't brag about living large.

Wu Tang CREAM, had them bragging about making 40 racks a week and importing drugs....Hell, Mafioso rap was all about excessive and expensive shyt.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Wtf Is all this "they have a right to rap about whatever they want" sht? I never questioned that right. What is the point of this website, if rappers can just rap how they want, free from criticism? "change the station then"....u can say that about everyone, in every thread. Fck u mean im entitled? Niqqa, i cant have an opinion now, mr i hate the east-coast?

Nah nikka, you whole posting steez screams of entitled listener who's mad that rappers aint rapping about what you wanna hear...and that they should do it, to please you.

you gotta realize, that every type of rap aint meant for you... the faster you realize that, the more you'll enjoy it.

and that's why you're entitled...you think that rap needs to be catered to you...when it's the other way around.

maybe you need to realize that mainstream rap just isn't for you.

 

[bouncy]

We gonna act like Deion Sanders didn't drop Must Be The Money in 93,MC Hammer didnt exist or that rappers didn't live excessively and rap about shyt regular nikkas couldn't afford in the early 90's.

Biggie was rapping about having a Super Nintendo and a Sega Genesis in 94...like that wasn't some expensive shyt.

Just cause NYC rappers made looking like you were homeless popular didn't mean that rappers didn't brag about living large.

Wu Tang CREAM, had them bragging about making 40 racks a week and importing drugs....Hell, Mafioso rap was all about excessive and expensive shyt.

Did you really name Deion Sanders, and MC Hammer?

Deion Sanders wasn't even taken seriously like that, and MC Hammer was done by then. Even He was trying to go the gangster rap style by 1993. MC Hammer wasn't a rapper like the ones today, so I don't know why you named him.

MY man, I know people who had super nintendo, or sega genesis, but I don't know people who own a bugatti, pushing tons of keys, spending tons of money on strippers every week, and getting high off of different drugs everyday. At least people who are worth something, meaning that money will last, and they aren't spending up their reup money just to front. You are comparing things people can eventually get to things that are not realistic for most people, or people who aren't trying to fukk up their life.


Yeah C.R.E.A.M rapped about making 40 g's a week, but most of the song is also about the downfalls of life, and how to maintain which takes C.R.E.A.M. They were not saying we make 40 g's a week to spend on hoes, and buy them red bottoms. Again, I don't see nothing wrong with this once in a while, but damn near every songs?

 

[Akademiks]

You clowns over here arguing over CDs in 2013 ... Nygga Step into the future. I got a Usb player in my car ... I got put my music on flash drives and have full access to everything there ... and shyt in 5-10 years thats gonna be obsolete cuz nyggas gonna all be connected to the Cloud and stream music readily off of virtual servers.


You ole heads gotta get with the time stop being so

I keep telling you lames. Eventually Music will be Free or essentially COMPLETELy non profitable as a standalone product. Labels will make their money off advertisements, performing royalties and other facets of having a hit song. Think Radio. Thats how record labels will operate in 50 years.

 

[bouncy]

so I guess rapping about drinking 40's and henny and chistal smoking "reefor" and driving saabs, beamers, and benz wagons and pagers dosent fall in this category


they rapped about the same stuff but different eras basically, it just that hip hop was much more diverse on a mainstream level then what it is now, u had nikkas like the wu, face, black moon, de la soul, ect on the radio back then at the same time, now u have caclemore, trinidad james and a bunch of other forced acts on the radio now with no diversity and the same damn features on every song which is being pushed now.

if u dont like mainstream music then you dont have to listen to it now whats so hard about that?

Again, there is a difference between drinking 40's which cost $1.49, and drinking some shyt that cost $1200. I can relate to the 40 drinker, not the rapper who always talks about how much he spends just to get drunk.

A saab, beamer, benz, are cars I will see someone drive, and eventually I can get. A lambo, a 600 benz, or 750 bmw, are not that likely unless I do something big to get it. It is not a different era, the cars, and things that rappers rhyme about now, have ALWAYS been around, it's just people needed to stunt harder, and started talking about things that most people in the WHOLE WORLD, have never seen in real life. It's cool the first time you hear it, but when everyone is on that, the shyt gets tired.

Like I stated earlier, I don't have to listen to it, and THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. No one who is willing to spend their money legally, are buying it neither. Anyone will buy a bootleg album if you can get 3 for $5, but that doesn't mean they like it or are fans. You know how many women buy albums just because they want something to buy, yet never listen to the cd after the first time?. They are really the reasons why these artist that cater to them(materialistic rappers) don't last. They are fickle.

 

[bouncy]

You clowns over here arguing over CDs in 2013 ... Nygga Step into the future. I got a Usb player in my car ... I got put my music on flash drives and have full access to everything there ... and shyt in 5-10 years thats gonna be obsolete cuz nyggas gonna all be connected to the Cloud and stream music readily off of virtual servers.


You ole heads gotta get with the time stop being so

That's you. Some people still like the quality of the audio, which you aren't going to get with a mp3. Also, it's not just CD's, but files off of itunes and other music services. Rap is just not selling anymore, and a lot of it has to do with the quality of the music. I don't care how many artist I can choose from, if they aren't giving me a product that hits my soul, then why buy it?. I can just do what you say, and listen to them on spotify, youtube, or some other shyt.

An artist like Kendrick ,who's album takes me on a journey, while I sit still, and listen through some quality headphones or home system, is someone who will have album sales. I can always go listen to his album when I want to hear a story unfold, while also listening to his wordplay, and trying to understand what he's talking about. This lie that lyrics should be simple, because nobody wants to think at a party, is why blacks are slowly losing this game, and others will slowly take over. I am not at a party all the time. Sometimes I want to cut the tv off, play a game/puff some herb, and listen to some good music so my mind can go into another world. Most people are like this, as opposed to living a life that is a music video with rappers popping bottles in the club, or in a mansion, with hoes everywhere. That's cool for the weekend, but what about the other days in the week?

Music will always be for sale, it's just the low quality stuff will be free, because they need you to pay attention to them. If you have something others don't, people will pay for it. You just have to cater to the people who will do it, which means if blacks/latins don't start paying for the music, others will dictate how it goes. Back then, we could get away with it, but now we aren't a mystery to whites or the world, so they don't need to hear the bullshyt from us anymore, which means they can support their own artist who give them more substance, and next thing you know we are starting form scratch again, just like jazz, and rock&roll. Maybe that is a good thing, if the music has substance again, but look how many people are out of making money legally now. Music is about hitting the listeners emotions, but if the person you are trying to attract doesn't want to hear about anything except materialistic stuff, what makes you think they won't see you as a material thing, and drop you when others aren't feeling you anymore? In order to keep fans, you need to be a musician, learn how to play instruments so you can hit emotions, and if you are a rapper, you need to learn how to be an orator, and learns how to use words. The art of rap hasn't grown anymore. It's more about the image, then the actual art.