Rap Music, Brainwashed Youth, and the Power of Hip Hop Culture

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So true.....Cats acting like they forcing these dudes to spit these lyrics because of a sinister agenda, but its really because of a pie chart that some 22 year old intern presented to a label head where it demonstrated that sex, drugs, and violence sells the most records...(shocker, I know right)

This is business mostly, if black and proud music sold as many records....labels would put money behind it....Ask Tyler Perry....:youngsabo:

Cash Money was spitting that ignant when they was local, and they aint switched up nothing after they got mainstream

Nobody is disputing or unaware of that, what we are asking is what is the impact on black culture especially when rap music is a form of identity and not just entertainment, it's crazy that people don't even want to talk about culture
 

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because to them rap is just entertainment, to black kids rap is an identity and a guide to life

so for example when a rapper suggests that drug dealing is the same as being a legit business man the white kid thinks its entertainment and doesn't take it seriously and goes on to be a legit business man but the black kid takes the notion seriously and it even becomes part of his outlook on life

you being exhibit A for this

I have to agree with this. Even though I'm white I grew up around hip-hop as well and I would see my young friend Quan start gettin' more and more into hip-hop as he grew up. If you don't know what the person's background is and believe them from a young age it plants a seed. Though I grew up around my mom & sister, mom liked old school rock like Eric Clapton, sister liked Backstreet Boyz eventually getting into Slipknot and other bands, I'd listen to those genres as well as hip-hop and even though I didn't know it at the time, I was a white kid cross-referencing different cultures.

Maybe it's why I get socially confused with myself and switch paradigms, when I'm talkin to B from the projects or near there I talk ghetto as fukk, when I'm near any other color I switch it to something in between. It's weird.

I was that kid though that tried getting into drug dealing early on when I couldn't get a job but wanted money. Then when I saw a dude of mine get jumped and got caught with that shyt and put in for 10 years I said "Fukk that." and took what I had, flushed it down the toilet.

I hated white kids at my school when I moved too, they had an easy life and they had the look of elitists and only stayed within their own circles, but also hated that city because most the black community would be ratchet and ignorant. It was completely different and made me even more confused than I already was. I came across mexicanos who didn't like blacks, didn't really likes whites that I could hang with. Most of the white kids were the most racist people I'd ever met.

In between it all in that school rarely did people say shyt face-to-face, even outside school they would scheme and set someone up for failure.

I couldn't decide for a long time about what to think. I came to this conclusion that was there the whole time, but I didn't see it. You can't judge a community by a whole, not everyone is raised as you think they are. I've met others with this same mindset and finally I decide that everyone I meet will start off with an equal level of respect. Color don't matter to me, but that's just me.

Random note, stay away from Ohio, brehs. Cops there are begging for some shyt to happen, the smallest shyt to get you locked up.
 

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I have to agree with this. Even though I'm white I grew up around hip-hop as well and I would see my young friend Quan start gettin' more and more into hip-hop as he grew up. If you don't know what the person's background is and believe them from a young age it plants a seed. Though I grew up around my mom & sister, mom liked old school rock like Eric Clapton, sister liked Backstreet Boyz eventually getting into Slipknot and other bands, I'd listen to those genres as well as hip-hop and even though I didn't know it at the time, I was a white kid cross-referencing different cultures.

Maybe it's why I get socially confused with myself and switch paradigms, when I'm talkin to B from the projects or near there I talk ghetto as fukk, when I'm near any other color I switch it to something in between. It's weird.

I was that kid though that tried getting into drug dealing early on when I couldn't get a job but wanted money. Then when I saw a dude of mine get jumped and got caught with that shyt and put in for 10 years I said "Fukk that." and took what I had, flushed it down the toilet.

I hated white kids at my school when I moved too, they had an easy life and they had the look of elitists and only stayed within their own circles, but also hated that city because most the black community would be ratchet and ignorant. It was completely different and made me even more confused than I already was. I came across mexicanos who didn't like blacks, didn't really likes whites that I could hang with. Most of the white kids were the most racist people I'd ever met.

In between it all in that school rarely did people say shyt face-to-face, even outside school they would scheme and set someone up for failure.

I couldn't decide for a long time about what to think. I came to this conclusion that was there the whole time, but I didn't see it. You can't judge a community by a whole, not everyone is raised as you think they are. I've met others with this same mindset and finally I decide that everyone I meet will start off with an equal level of respect. Color don't matter to me, but that's just me.

Random note, stay away from Ohio, brehs. Cops there are begging for some shyt to happen, the smallest shyt to get you locked up.
:stopitslime:

as i was sayin many posts ago how the whole system is setup for us to fail....


how many niccas did you set up for failure. pm me i won't tell anyone :stopitslime:


how does mgk feel about being used by th emusic industry and how has to deal with living with aids? no one put a gun to his head right?!
why didn't he just go to school like a good ol white boy?
 

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:stopitslime:

as i was sayin many posts ago how the whole system is setup for us to fail....


how many niccas did you set up for failure. pm me i won't tell anyone :stopitslime:


how does mgk feel about being used by th emusic industry and how has to deal with living with aids? no one put a gun to his head right?!
why didn't he just go to school like a good ol white boy?

The truth, breh, I kept to myself in that school. I couldn't trust anyone and I was raised humble from the start.

I hated the shyt because if you had a confrontation face-to-face to anyone they'd back off, come in friendly and shyt and outta no where give you a right-hook.

Shyt got me with trust issues. Didn't matter what color, though I did meet some cool black dudes from there, I didn't pursue because I didn't want to set myself up for failure.


To me, I'm an outcast or some shyt. Can't fit in with white people, maybe with mexicanos, definitely not asians, and black peoples think I'm always frontin' cause I look like the innocent and naive white kid.

The only time I will ever set someone up for failure is if it's because someone pushes it too far and threatens my family. That's all I got, breh, alongside with my own morals.
 

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When hip hop started out and it was like "this is whats going on in our hoods and its fukkED up please help us out". then the 90s hit and it became "this is whats going on in our hoods, its fukked up and MAN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANGSTA!". which led to "nikka im more gangsta than u ive sold more drugs" "well ive shot more nikkas". <---probably bullshytting until somebody said "man theres this new guy 50 cent and he got shot 9 times. he REALLY IS a gangsta". now, its all about street cred. if you havent shot somebody, you cant rap. rick ross was discovered to be a C.O. and oh man he lost all his STREET CRED <<---- there is where the problem lies. all of you mentioning rock stars and the bullshyt they did or the violence in movies and tv. none of those other forms of media require any street cred. marlon brando and al pacino didnt have to prove that they really bust they gun after making the godfather. james gandolfini, wood harris, idris elba, mekhi phifer, sly stallone. none of those guys had to prove anything because they are just actors. ozzie osbourne and all the crazy rock stars could remain white nerds that sang crazy shyt and nobody loved them any less.

when street credibility became synonymous with manhood and realness, thats when this rap shyt went downhill.

:pacspit: rap. if u dont think its the main problem, i can agree with that. but dont say it isnt a problem.
 
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When hip hop started out and it was like "this is whats going on in our hoods and its fukkED up please help us out". then the 90s hit and it became "this is whats going on in our hoods, its fukked up and MAN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANGSTA!". which led to "nikka im more gangsta than u ive sold more drugs" "well ive shot more nikkas". <---probably bullshytting until somebody said "man theres this new guy 50 cent and he got shot 9 times. he REALLY IS a gangsta". now, its all about street cred. if you havent shot somebody, you cant rap. rick ross was discovered to be a C.O. and oh man he lost all his STREET CRED <<---- there is where the problem lies. all of you mentioning rock stars and the bullshyt they did or the violence in movies and tv. none of those other forms of media require any street cred. marlon brando and al pacino didnt have to prove that they really bust they gun after making the godfather. james gandolfini, wood harris, idris elba, mekhi phifer, sly stallone. none of those guys had to prove anything because they are just actors. ozzie osbourne and all the crazy rock stars could remain white nerds that sang crazy shyt and nobody loved them any less.

when street credibility became synonymous with manhood and realness, thats when this rap shyt went downhill.

:pacspit: rap. if u dont think its the main problem, i can agree with that. but dont say it isnt a problem.

The fact that Rick Ross is a popular artist lets you know that street cred is not required.....Street cred was required in rap's infancy if you talked about doing dirt on wax....But once NWA went double plat, credibility went out of the window, and every label head was manafacturing the next gangster rapper.

That stuff you hear on wax about cats calling each other out about not being real or claiming to be harder than the next really doesn't happen like that in real life...The most dangerous cats don't even look tough for real, and it don't matter if you got 60 bodies, if someone decided they wanted what you had, it was going to be a problem, regardless of whatever your reputation may have been...

I've seen so called Gators get popped by nobodies or dope fiends....All that tough talk and barking would get you dealt with real quick back in the day....

However, your point about rap and hyper masculinity may have some merit.....But it still aint the engine behind the issues in the black community
 
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When hip hop started out and it was like "this is whats going on in our hoods and its fukkED up please help us out". then the 90s hit and it became "this is whats going on in our hoods, its fukked up and MAN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANGSTA!". which led to "nikka im more gangsta than u ive sold more drugs" "well ive shot more nikkas". <---probably bullshytting until somebody said "man theres this new guy 50 cent and he got shot 9 times. he REALLY IS a gangsta". now, its all about street cred. if you havent shot somebody, you cant rap. rick ross was discovered to be a C.O. and oh man he lost all his STREET CRED <<---- there is where the problem lies. all of you mentioning rock stars and the bullshyt they did or the violence in movies and tv. none of those other forms of media require any street cred. marlon brando and al pacino didnt have to prove that they really bust they gun after making the godfather. james gandolfini, wood harris, idris elba, mekhi phifer, sly stallone. none of those guys had to prove anything because they are just actors. ozzie osbourne and all the crazy rock stars could remain white nerds that sang crazy shyt and nobody loved them any less.

when street credibility became synonymous with manhood and realness, thats when this rap shyt went downhill.

:pacspit: rap. if u dont think its the main problem, i can agree with that. but dont say it isnt a problem.


:salute: to this shyt. I been telling these lost ass grown men in here that street cred never affects your ability to make good music. Only the ones that been duped from childhood been screaming about "the streets" and think that negativity and drama is a must to make good music. Hip Hop started out as social commentary and positive party music to get away from the negativity. Now people embrace that shyt and say that it is normal.
 

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your favorite rapper ricky raws survived 50's onslaught cause he's been working overtime suckin jewish dyck

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who knows what else he's doing behind closed doors.
all of them french, ricky been callin for illuminati support just to appear successful to the public.
these munkies will do anything for fame.
 
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your favorite rapper ricky raws survived 50's onslaught cause he's been working overtime suckin jewish dyck

ce7b7b62.jpg




who knows what else he's doing behind closed doors.
all of them french, ricky been callin for illuminati support just to appear successful to the public.
these munkies will do anything for fame.


So it has nothing to do with the fact that a lot of people actually like his music?
 

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of course it reduces poverty in the area, but it doesnt reduce the poverty of the people that leave. if a bunch of rich white people move into bed stuy how does that reduce the poverty of the black residents (unless they own their homes), if crime goes down when white people move in and black people move out how is that something that black people should celebrate?

first how is music separate from culture?

crime has been declining everywhere but it persists in black communities and again the assertion is not that music causes crime, the assertion is that it hurts the efforts to combat crime and other problems in the black community

Crime has gone down across the board and that is a fact. I used the example of the murder rate in NYC. This is a downward trend not only in gentrified areas but across the city. Even in depressed places like Brownsville and the Bronx the murder rate is declining.

Is it down to preferred levels? no, but the trends are encouraging.
 

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ricky when the GD's catch up with you those zionists won't be there. they'll just promote the next artist pushing lies.
 
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