RANT: People shytting on KG now? :WTF:

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Dog, advanced stats tell you a lot... and tell you a lot less in bball than anything else. I watch every minute of every game I can. I'm a fiend. And I played at a high level. KG is a Hall of Famer, I will never front on that. KG anchor a D in his prime - absolutely. KG IS NOT THE FIRST OPTION AT THE END OF GAMES UNLESS NO ONE CAN GET FREE OR THEY DESIGN A PLAY FOR A WING J. That nikka loud as fukk but quiet in the post with the game on the line... CONSISTENTLY. And for all them stats, he couldn't make a title run until he was alternating between a 2nd and 3rd option, PERIOD. That nikka is NOT in the convo with TD, at all. And he's below Dirk too. Pierce closed all those games with few exceptions, I watched all of them, and no team D stats gonna tell me a fukking thing contrary to that black ass doodoo log drifting on the perimeter in the clutch. Like a 27 inch Zenith, I seen it.

nikka we smokin off the same pipe.

I ain't aruging if KG is the 'definitive' first option at the end of games nor I'm arguing that he's Duncan's equal either. All I'm arguing is that KG was the most important player on the Celtics this past season.

1st series (Game 6 vs Hawks - 4th quarter):

Garnett = 4 points.
Pierce = 5 points and 1 turnover.

1st series (Game 7 vs Hawks - 4th quarter):

Garnett = 8 points (last made FG in the game) and 2 blocks.
Pierce = 4 points, 1 block and 2 turnovers.

2nd series (Game 6 vs 76ers - 4th quarter):

Garnett = 8 points and 2 turnovers.
Pierce = 3 points (last made FG of the game).

2nd series (Game 7 vs 76ers - 4th quarter):

Garnett = 5 points.
Pierce: = 2 points and 1 turnover.

In the Celtics win(s) over the Heat - he averaged more 4th quarter points than Pierce did as well. And all this talk of closing games - what about the rest of the 3+ quarters, does that not hold equal-weight to the rest of the aforementioned closing-minutes? That Celtics team staggered and spluttered on the offense end all throughout the playoffs and if it wasn't for their defense (KG's impact) they wouldn't be in any position for Pierce to close games. Plus not to mention the countless amounts of times KG had to make plays on the other side of the court in the dying minutes of games too.

If you're gonna use the closer tag for Pierce, you have to use it for KG on the other end of the court too. He may not always 'bring it' on the offensive side of the ball in the closing stages, but he sure does on the defensive end.

 

[TrillaMonsoon]

Having watched KG's career closely since i live in Minneapolis he is the most important player when he is on the court but rarely makes or takes the big shot with under 2 minutes in a close game. There are exceptions like the series with the Kings but Sam Cassell was necessary for KG to play his style like Paul Pierce allows him to do at the end of games.

He shouldn't be compared to Duncan but I don't think you can say Dirk is better. That's putting too much emphasis on being the "man" in the 4th quarter. Dirk needed Chandler, Marion, Stevenson and Kidds perimeter defense to hide on D and thrive on O. KG did the exact thing in reverse allowing Pierce, Allen, Rondo and House(in their championship run) to take the pressure off them on D.

Dirk was never as versatile offensively or defensively as KG and to me that keeps him above Dirk.

 

[Kang Deezy]

KG is a legend and the last of a dying breed.

KG should be appreciated more than he is, because with the way sports are going, any kind of personality and competiveness is being zapped out of the game.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Having watched KG's career closely since i live in Minneapolis he is the most important player when he is on the court but rarely makes or takes the big shot with under 2 minutes in a close game. There are exceptions like the series with the Kings but Sam Cassell was necessary for KG to play his style like Paul Pierce allows him to do at the end of games.

He shouldn't be compared to Duncan but I don't think you can say Dirk is better. That's putting too much emphasis on being the "man" in the 4th quarter. Dirk needed Chandler, Marion, Stevenson and Kidds perimeter defense to hide on D and thrive on O. KG did the exact thing in reverse allowing Pierce, Allen, Rondo and House(in their championship run) to take the pressure off them on D.

Dirk was never as versatile offensively or defensively as KG and to me that keeps him above Dirk.

I will say that with the exception of maybe his first season, KG seems to be business as usual no matter what point of the game it may be in. He doesn't seem to buckle under pressure towards the end of the game anymore and has been pretty reliable with hitting the big shot or free throws when the ball is in his hands towards the end of a close game.

 

[ltheghost]

The KG hate has to stop. The dude is dedicated to the game. You see how he treated Ray Allen when he went to Miami (nikka don't talk to me)

Its not like he a bytch made ass nikka like D. Wade, Vince Carter, Kwame Brown, Bruce Bowen. I could go on for days. KG loves the game and he has a ring to back it up.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Having watched KG's career closely since i live in Minneapolis he is the most important player when he is on the court but rarely makes or takes the big shot with under 2 minutes in a close game. There are exceptions like the series with the Kings but Sam Cassell was necessary for KG to play his style like Paul Pierce allows him to do at the end of games.

He shouldn't be compared to Duncan but I don't think you can say Dirk is better. That's putting too much emphasis on being the "man" in the 4th quarter. Dirk needed Chandler, Marion, Stevenson and Kidds perimeter defense to hide on D and thrive on O. KG did the exact thing in reverse allowing Pierce, Allen, Rondo and House(in their championship run) to take the pressure off them on D.

Dirk was never as versatile offensively or defensively as KG and to me that keeps him above Dirk.

Dirk won one and got to another where he lost to the Heat and the refs with a bunch of role players. In 2010, Chandler, Kidd, Marion, Barea and them played their roles effectively, but Dirk was carrying that team offensively like Duncan in 03. If you switch KG for Dirk on that team do they even sniff the O'Brien trophy? Not likely.

Dirk is underrated playoff performer. 25.5 and 11 career in the playoffs. He obviously isn't in KG's league as a defender, but I think he passed KG in 2010. His ability to score down the stretch is incredible. Just pass him the ball and he's going to get off a high percentage shot (for him) that's unblockable and unguardable.

 

[sm0ke]

Warrior = puffin your chest out against guys half your size?

 

[Walt]

All I'm arguing is that KG was the most important player on the Celtics this past season.

So during a season in which his team ain't win shyt, he was the most important player?

That suits Pierce's and my agenda quite well.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

So during a season in which his team ain't win shyt, he was the most important player?

That suits Pierce's and my agenda quite well.

Hes been the most important player since he got there and it was magnified last season after he moved to center.

 

[Walt]

Hes been the most important player since he got there and it was magnified last season after he moved to center.

No. He's a player who as the main fixture didn't make the playoffs, lost in the first round several times, lost as a higher seed. Then he got in a role where he didn't have to be the #1 and Pierce complemented the fukk out of him.

Meanwhile, TD is 3 levels above him in consistently anchoring a team, and Dirk is a level above too.

In no way, shape, or form am I saying KG ain't a hall of famer.

But in ever way, shape, and form I'm saying he's a burnt piece of charocoal loud talking p*ssy fakkit nikka who is one of the great #2s of all time.

And that's all fact.

 

[mastermind]

there was no reason to try and put KG over Duncan. None whatsoever.

What a shambolic thread.

 

[USSInsiders]

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's just that he's a fake tough guy. He'll talk shyt and act all thug against someone like Tim Duncan, Jose Calderon, or Jerryd Bayless but all that shyt talking demeanor goes away when he's playing against someone like Z-Bo or Rasheed.

He's all bark and no bite. He would never step to someone like Ron Ron or Perkins. I can't cosign that shyt, but he's a great player

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

No. He's a player who as the main fixture didn't make the playoffs, lost in the first round several times, lost as a higher seed. Then he got in a role where he didn't have to be the #1 and Pierce complemented the fukk out of him.

Meanwhile, TD is 3 levels above him in consistently anchoring a team, and Dirk is a level above too.

In no way, shape, or form am I saying KG ain't a hall of famer.

But in ever way, shape, and form I'm saying he's a burnt piece of charocoal loud talking p*ssy fakkit nikka who is one of the great #2s of all time.

And that's all fact.

I didnt make any comparisons. Pierce is more important in big offensive moments, but thats where it stops.

I remember dirk having a similarly garbage playoff early career, even with an eventual two time mvp that complemented the fukk out of him, but thats neither here nor there right?

Kg in minny during the same period in question is better than that version of dirk. Kg is just as versatile defensively as dirk is offensively and kg is probably better offensively than dirk is defensively.

And thats all fact.

 

[Walt]

I remember dirk having a similarly garbage playoff early career, even with an eventual two time mvp that complemented the fukk out of him, but thats neither here nor there right?

Oh no, friend, it is here and there. Dirk flamed out once, but he also - come rain or shine - made Dallas good for 50-60 wins every year. In that sense, he was Tim Duncan lite. And KG doesn't have that to his credit. Sorry, but your deposit is rejected.

Kg in minny during the same period in question is better than that version of dirk.

Uh, hmmm... interesting spin. Here's a more reality-based take. Dirk asTHE MAN reeled off 50 win seasons and playoff runs, culminating in an epic MVP playoff run for a chip with an 80 year old J. Kidd and some random nikkas past their primes against two f the best players of the past decade. KG in the west was a sad ass crying in interviews with John Thompson nikka. Went to the Celts and won his chip as a #2 at times #3 alongside two hall of famers and a top 5 at the time PG. I'd never offend Dirk by pretending KG did or could do what Dirk did, and you shouldn't either.

Kg is just as versatile defensively as dirk is offensively and kg is probably better offensively than dirk is defensively.

You can build around Dirk. KG is the ultimate player to add to a team. Very different. Anyone pretending KG is in TD's league at this point is a fakkit, and anyone pretending he's better than Dirk is just... sad, stanning, and in denial.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Oh no, friend, it is here and there. Dirk flamed out once, but he also - come rain or shine - made Dallas good for 50-60 wins every year. In that sense, he was Tim Duncan lite. And KG doesn't have that to his credit. Sorry, but your deposit is rejected.

KG didnt do the roughly equivalent thing? With more of an overlap against kings lakers blazers and even sonics?



Uh, hmmm... interesting spin. Here's a more reality-based take. Dirk asTHE MAN reeled off 50 win seasons and playoff runs, culminating in an epic MVP playoff run for a chip with an 80 year old J. Kidd and some random nikkas past their primes against two f the best players of the past decade. KG in the west was a sad ass crying in interviews with John Thompson nikka. Went to the Celts and won his chip as a #2 at times #3 alongside two hall of famers and a top 5 at the time PG. I'd never offend Dirk by pretending KG did or could do what Dirk did, and you shouldn't either.

That run was magical. Im saying kg's time in minny vs the dirk in dallas during kg in minny timeframe. Nice spin tho.

You can build around Dirk. KG is the ultimate player to add to a team. Very different. Anyone pretending KG is in TD's league at this point is a fakkit, and anyone pretending he's better than Dirk is just... sad, stanning, and in denial.

So dirk wouldnt be the ultimate player to add to a team? If he was traded after refs arguably gifted heat before then won a ring after, which is a reasonable hypothetical, then the careers would be yin and yang offensive to defensive.

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