Ranking of African countries based on cultural influence. Do you agree?

[GrindtooFilthy]

Why are y’all boiling cultural influence down to music? And if this is looking at global influence, some of y’all are just looking at influence within the black diaspora, and more specifically America. These countries have various levels of influence throughout Europe, the Middle East, some parts of Asia, and South America. The narrow lens being applied in this thread seems to forget pretty much anything you’re not particularly attuned to

Someone already mention high power vs soft power but for tiers S-B regardless how you spin it, it’s very accurate

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Someone already mention high power vs soft power but for tiers S-B regardless how you spin it, it’s very accurate

I’m not arguing with the tiers presented in the original tweet, I agree with them where I can recognize the flag moreso replying to people trying to adjust the original tiers based on really narrow aspects of “culture”

 

[invalid]

yall are complicating this. You can be first among equals. Nigerians are among the wealthiest expats of all africans.

In terms of culture, which this thread is about:

South Africa-
Politics: Nelson Mandela v. Sani Abacha or Muhammadu Buhari
Religion: Desmond Tutu v. TB Joshua, David Oyedepo
Literature: A Long Walk to Freedom v. Things Fall Apart
Folk History: Zulus v. Yorubas
Film: uCarmen v. ?

Nigeria-
Music: Afrobeats v. SA House
Cuisine: Jollof v. ?
Sports: Teslim Balogun v. ?

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

If were basing it on the last millennium, Mali should be number 1, heavy influence on Blues, one of the biggest reasons a lot of Sub Saharan countries adheare to Islam, the most notable civilizations in Songhai, Mali, Timbuktu.


There influence has dwindled in the last 200 years but every other nation is still playing catch up.

List can't go that far back based on most of these nations not existing. I took one look at it and understood it was talking about today (post colonial to present). Which is why I dispute Egypt being S tier. TODAY

 

[invalid]

Because you don’t know the culture, Igbos are socialist in antiquity. We don’t acknowledge monarchs.

Also our cosmology isn’t like Yoruba ppl (ifa), we keep our shyt hush hush and on the low.

You're missing the point. I don't know it because it's not exported, as you said "we keep our shyt hush hush". This thread is about global cultural influence. If you don't export, then a person won't know about the culture unless they have a general interest outside the mainstream.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Again, an outlier compared to global successes of Davido, Burna Boy, Wizkid, CKay, Rema etc. etc.

It's the equivalent to Sweden having a pop success every decade.

 

[invalid]

South Africa's global cultural relevancy has waned since the early 1990s. Sure, Amapiano is popular in Africa now...but it is an outlier and compared to the 1980s and early 1990s, when people were listening to Ladysmith Black Mambazo and Lucky Dube...South Africa's cultural decline has continued relative to Nigeria.

And I say this as someone who likes Amapiano, gqom etc.

I get what you're saying but from my upbringing, SA had a larger cultural impact than Nigeria. Hell, SA even had Oprah claiming she was Zulu. Nigeria's cultural impact in recent years, sure it's larger. But where it matters, it hasn't yet outstripped SA. Not to say it won't in the future. At least for me.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Again, an outlier compared to global successes of Davido, Burna Boy, Wizkid, CKay, Rema etc. etc.

It's the equivalent to Sweden having a pop success every decade.

She should have not got that award. Pissed me off.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

She should have not got that award. Pissed me off.

It is what it is. She had a viral song. Also, Grammy politics had it such that awarding Nigeria an award two years in a row would cause an upset.

I think Tyla is a very talented, beautiful woman and I wish her success. But she's likely a one-hit wonder.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I get what you're saying but from my upbringing, SA had a larger cultural impact than Nigeria. Hell, SA even had Oprah claiming she was Zulu. Nigeria's cultural impact in recent years, sure it's larger. But where it matters, it hasn't yet outstripped SA. Not to say it won't in the future. At least for me.

That's fine.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

It is what it is. She had a viral song. Also, Grammy politics had it such that awarding Nigeria an award two years in a row would cause an upset.

I think Tyla is a very talented, beautiful woman and I wish her success. But she's likely a one-hit wonder.

I'll be honest.. I'm hating because Indians trying to claim her and her success despite her saying she's colored. I really don't like them mufhukaz.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

In terms of culture, which this thread is about:

South Africa-
Politics: Nelson Mandela v. Sani Abacha or Muhammadu Buhari
Religion: Desmond Tutu v. TB Joshua, David Oyedepo
Literature: A Long Walk to Freedom v. Things Fall Apart
Folk History: Zulus v. Yorubas
Film: uCarmen v. ?

Nigeria-
Music: Afrobeats v. SA House
Cuisine: Jollof v. ?
Sports: Teslim Balogun v. ?

you completely omitted Nollywood

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

List can't go that far back based on most of these nations not existing. I took one look at it and understood it was talking about today (post colonial to present). Which is why I dispute Egypt being S tier. TODAY

The Nile alone and the influence on global shipping can’t be overlooked

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It is what it is. She had a viral song. Also, Grammy politics had it such that awarding Nigeria an award two years in a row would cause an upset.

I think Tyla is a very talented, beautiful woman and I wish her success. But she's likely a one-hit wonder.

 

[invalid]

you completely omitted Nollywood

Didn't mean to.
But its kinda irrelevant when they haven't produced a major film that's reached international audiences outside of the Nigerian diaspora.