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Random NBA Observations 2017 - 2018
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The difference here is: Kyrie's proven he can stay healthy throughout the season(s), and long postseason runs - aided by his style of play, whereas Embiid's only played 70 games since he was drafted in 2014, playing as if he doesn't have injury red flags, tossing himself in all different directions as if he were a rag doll. Yes, the injury cloud doesn't wane too far from Kyrie, but the Celtics have two elite-potential wings ready waiting in the wings. What does Philly have outside out Embiid? Simmons? Who's a special talent in his own right, but as by your own admission, has a # of flaws to his game, and is facing an uphill battle if he wants to be the centerpiece of a team.
I'd take a Stevens-run squad, led by Jaylen and Tatum in arguably the most stable environments in the league, before I'd take Simmons and..... whoever, and whatever hell their staff have done with Fultz.
And yeah I almost forgot, the Celtics have Hayward who's entering his prime, who'll be back healthy next season too.
If the pick doesn't end up where they can get what they want, they can always package it with one of their younger players and/or assets for a big man. And it's not like Horford is on his last legs (I'd say another two seasons of this level of play if he can stay healthy), or if he's some irreplaceable piece. Just a season ago, folks were laughing at Boston for even signing him to that contract in the first place.
If finding a replacement Horford is your biggest knock on their future, I'd say they're in great shape.
They are, but they're also in worse situations, surrounded by lesser talent/coaching, and less ideal trade/FA spots.
Middleton is good enough. He doesnt stand out as a star but all around he is as complete a player as their is. They need to get more out of the other guys like Maker and Snell and if Parker returns to form, great. but they just need good coach and make some tweaks.
Hernangomez requesting a trade.
send him to the Nets!!
send him to the Nets!!
Kyrie's kneecap was broken, he's going to need surgery on it in the offseason, that is not something to just casually brush to the side. I don't look away from the fact Embiid is injury prone, we're discussing this under the premise he's healthy though, with injury concerns in mind you can't just assign perfect health to Kryie moving forward when his knee is an issue as well. If Simmons is a special talent, why ask who Embiid has next to him? He has warts that need to be fixed, but the fact remains Embiid is a generational talent and neither of those Celtic wings are on that level.
The coaching staff in Philly had nothing to do with Fultz changing his shot, that was a decision he made in the summer. But, the Sixers have done a good job with fixing shots - Saric, McConnell, Anderson are all better shooters, one of the biggest knocks on Saric was that he couldn't shoot the 3.
If Hayward didn't break his leg Tatum would be developing at a slower rate, we'll have to see how he adjusts to coming off the bench for Gordon next year.
Beloved, I don't this part of your post, you're talking about them getting the pick next year and packaging it with Horford for someone 2019, while completely neglecting the fact the Sixers could end up with that LAL pick to add to their team, using that same rationale what would stop them from using the 2018 LAL pick + XYZ to go out and get a player, especially if they miss the playoffs and have two lottery picks.
Horford on a max is still terrible, but his versatility on defense is something that will be difficult for them to just replace through a trade, unless they get your mans in New Orleans which would take a lot more than Horford + Kings 2019 pick.
They are, but they're also in worse situations, surrounded by lesser talent/coaching, and less ideal trade/FA spots.
The Sixers situation is worse?
They have room for 2 maxes this summer, look like they'll be getting the 2018 LAL pick and have two guys under 25 that are learning to lead. The Bucks situation isn't that much worse than the C's, the biggest sore spot for them is Jabari's long term health outside of that the C's have absolutely no answer for him, Giannis putting up straight up video game numbers vs them 
The Knicks situation is bad, mainly because Phil fukked them over with that Noah contract, but if Giannis does leave Milwaukee guess who one of his best friends is....The Celtics are capped out, they aren't a FA destination at all.
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Kyrie's kneecap was broken, he's going to need surgery on it in the offseason, that is not something to just casually brush to the side. I don't look away from the fact Embiid is injury prone, we're discussing this under the premise he's healthy though, with injury concerns in mind you can't just assign perfect health to Kryie moving forward when his knee is an issue as well. If Simmons is a special talent, why ask who Embiid has next to him? He has warts that need to be fixed, but the fact remains Embiid is a generational talent and neither of those Celtic wings are on that level.
The coaching staff in Philly had nothing to do with Fultz changing his shot, that was a decision he made in the summer. But, the Sixers have done a good job with fixing shots - Saric, McConnell, Anderson are all better shooters, one of the biggest knocks on Saric was that he couldn't shoot the 3.
If Hayward didn't break his leg Tatum would be developing at a slower rate, we'll have to see how he adjusts to coming off the bench for Gordon next year.
Beloved, I don't this part of your post, you're talking about them getting the pick next year and packaging it with Horford for someone 2019, while completely neglecting the fact the Sixers could end up with that LAL pick to add to their team, using that same rationale what would stop them from using the 2018 LAL pick + XYZ to go out and get a player, especially if they miss the playoffs and have two lottery picks.
Horford on a max is still terrible, but his versatility on defense is something that will be difficult for them to just replace through a trade, unless they get your mans in New Orleans which would take a lot more than Horford + Kings 2019 pick.
The Sixers situation is worse?
The Celtics are capped out, they aren't a FA destination at all.
Yeah the Celtics will probably get the Kings pick in a horrible draft next year
Might have given up the wrong pick in the Cavs trade
I'd rather the 7th or 8th pick this year the a top 3 next year
please get frank the fukk outta my city 
Last time we got a “top pick in a horrible draft” we got Jaylen Brown so I’ll take those odds
It's basically just Barrett, which would make no sense for a team with Brown, Tatum and Hayward.
The Celtics have the assets to trade for Davis, but I doubt they offer up any real deal for him.
Last time we got a “top pick in a horrible draft” we got Jaylen Brown so I’ll take those odds
The best players in that draft are all wings, outside of Bol Bol and he wouldn't be a top 5 pick this year.
I never got your stance, what would you trade for Davis? I think it's pretty much a wrap for him in New Orleans, that injury to Cousins and the fact they're gonna have to give him a max is GAME OVER.
You think the Hornets deal him? That owner has a hardon for the playoffs and I think he sees them being a perennial playoff team with AD and Cousins coming back even if he's not 100%
It's a wrap for Brow in New Orleans, capped out and no additional talent coming via the draft in the summer because they wanted Mirotic, you know they'll panic next season and trade another first rounder since they're giving them shyts away like candy. Cousins will come back as an even worse defensive player who will probably start shooting even more threes because the explosiveness for next year will be limited, shyts gonna get ugly there.
They may not want to trade him but that situation is one of the worst in the league, and I can't see why he'd stay there when his deal is up.