Random College Basketball Thoughts: 2016-17

Who will win the National Championship?

  • Duke

  • Kentucky

  • Kansas

  • Villanova

  • Wisconsin

  • North Carolina

  • Syracuse

  • Michigan State

  • Indiana

  • Arizona

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I ain't a basketball guru, but Issac hasn't shown me shyt yet. I know that the draft is about potential, but it seem like he would have to do it on the court 1st. I'm thinking he needs to come back unless unleash the dawg before the season is over.
I feel ya but like @str8up said its all about potential and measurables...FSU is deep so he's just trying to fit in and do his part within Ham's defense first scheme..But he's shown flashes in earlier games to be able to dominate..He will find his way as the season goes along
 

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I've never believed in that storyline that Duke would cruise to the Final Four, but I know better. Tatum's issue is something I was telling folks since his Jr. Kid was always consensus top 3 and just the best amongst the best, but Junior year he became a gigantic chuck. He used to be very versatile early in his game. Giles and Tatum became bff's since their first Team USA tryout, and was always a package deal. Doesn't surprise me, Giles the only kid he passes the ball too lol.

Funkee or another Duke fan, how is Frank Jackson looking like? That kid is the truth, absolutely loved his game, but did have a gigantic shot selection. I don't think Duke was the right system for him at all, but Duke and UK are it now.

Giles didn't play basketball since his Junior season. He got hurt his first game as a senior. He's suffered 3 knee injuries, so you're not going to see the "true" Giles, #1 player in the nation Giles for a while. Sadly, he might end up leaving with Tatum regardless.

Not sure we'll see that Giles again. People claimed he was getting his vertical explosiveness back after the last surgery and he doesn't look like he can even run fluidly. But it's early so things can change.
 

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LSU is the sorriest team in the country

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I've never believed in that storyline that Duke would cruise to the Final Four, but I know better. Tatum's issue is something I was telling folks since his Jr. Kid was always consensus top 3 and just the best amongst the best, but Junior year he became a gigantic chuck. He used to be very versatile early in his game. Giles and Tatum became bff's since their first Team USA tryout, and was always a package deal. Doesn't surprise me, Giles the only kid he passes the ball too lol.

Funkee or another Duke fan, how is Frank Jackson looking like? That kid is the truth, absolutely loved his game, but did have a gigantic shot selection. I don't think Duke was the right system for him at all, but Duke and UK are it now.

Giles didn't play basketball since his Junior season. He got hurt his first game as a senior. He's suffered 3 knee injuries, so you're not going to see the "true" Giles, #1 player in the nation Giles for a while. Sadly, he might end up leaving with Tatum regardless.

re: frank jackson, i've always said that he's not a PG and wished duke had pushed harder for dennis smith for this freshman class. tyus kind of screwed things up as no one anticipated that he would be OAD. I think the ideal plan was for he and winslow to come back as sophomores with allen, then bring in a class of smith/tatum/giles for this season. That being said, frank's settling better into an off the bench microwave scorer with tatum and giles being back. I like him playing in the backcourt with grayson as both are dynamic off the bounce. I just wish he would look to set others up more when he gets by his man, but like tatum, his eyes are always on the hoop. He is allowed to play more PG when he's paired with matt jones or kennard, but he's still so much a scorer that he has trouble getting assists. his game in highschool was always jerryd bayless-ish in that they are basically explosive undersized SGs masquerading as PGs. Allen has by far the best vision/unselfishness on the team (almost to a fault lately, they need him taking 12+ shots a game, not 6-9). Just want some of that to rub off on other guys. pretty much everytime tatum, kennard, and jackson (lesser so than the aforementioned 2) touch the ball, they are shooting.

i think kennard's pro prospects are being overrated. He usually has trouble getting by his man unless he's coming off of a curl/screen, or doing a little spin/change of hands in the paint. he is scoring incredibly efficiently, however, which is much better compared to how streaky he was last year. The worst is his absolute shyt defense. dude's feet/legs are bricks and he can't keep anyone in front of him. he will get torched at the next level. I also don't think he could carry this offense/lead the team to wins with a less talented squad and a big target on his back like allen did last year. the team needs to get better on D in a hurry, especially on the interior. Really miss derryck thornton's ball pressure and ability to keep opposing guards out the paint.
 

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What happened to Javin DeLaurier? It's like he doesn't even play

he's been hurt here and there, but i would like him to get some spot minutes for his activity, effort, and athleticism. At least he will put in 100% effort compared to harry and especially marques. duke lost that game against FSU by allowing them to get layup after dunk after layup with really poor interior D/rotations. someone like him with some springiness/active legs could've been useful
 

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So, is it still a consensus that Frank Mason can't play at the next level? Just curious.
 

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So, is it still a consensus that Frank Mason can't play at the next level? Just curious.

He'll be better at the next level than Joel Berry, but I don't think either one will really do much. I like Mason though, he's my pick for player of the year right now.
 

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re: frank jackson, i've always said that he's not a PG and wished duke had pushed harder for dennis smith for this freshman class. tyus kind of screwed things up as no one anticipated that he would be OAD. I think the ideal plan was for he and winslow to come back as sophomores with allen, then bring in a class of smith/tatum/giles for this season. That being said, frank's settling better into an off the bench microwave scorer with tatum and giles being back. I like him playing in the backcourt with grayson as both are dynamic off the bounce. I just wish he would look to set others up more when he gets by his man, but like tatum, his eyes are always on the hoop. He is allowed to play more PG when he's paired with matt jones or kennard, but he's still so much a scorer that he has trouble getting assists. his game in highschool was always jerryd bayless-ish in that they are basically explosive undersized SGs masquerading as PGs. Allen has by far the best vision/unselfishness on the team (almost to a fault lately, they need him taking 12+ shots a game, not 6-9). Just want some of that to rub off on other guys. pretty much everytime tatum, kennard, and jackson (lesser so than the aforementioned 2) touch the ball, they are shooting.

i think kennard's pro prospects are being overrated. He usually has trouble getting by his man unless he's coming off of a curl/screen, or doing a little spin/change of hands in the paint. he is scoring incredibly efficiently, however, which is much better compared to how streaky he was last year. The worst is his absolute shyt defense. dude's feet/legs are bricks and he can't keep anyone in front of him. he will get torched at the next level. I also don't think he could carry this offense/lead the team to wins with a less talented squad and a big target on his back like allen did last year. the team needs to get better on D in a hurry, especially on the interior. Really miss derryck thornton's ball pressure and ability to keep opposing guards out the paint.

the "pure" pg is long gone. There's only one Chris Paul everyone else these days is a undersized 2 masquerading as a pg.
 

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the "pure" pg is long gone. There's only one Chris Paul everyone else these days is a undersized 2 masquerading as a pg.

There's no one to set up others on that team breh. Others have that guy. I mean they put Jayson Tatum on ball their last game breh. That says it all. Thornton probably should've stayed.
 
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