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breh just stop it

Stop what? Educating you about ethnic tensions you reductively glossed to try and support your point? You made two incorrect statements. One was that Canada was on the verge of a breakup, which is laughable. Not even your own link supported that. All it said was that a conservative minister from Quebec was challenging the constitutional rules about the legality of secession. Obviously, he lost and never had a chance to begin with. That holds about as much weight as Rick Perry mentioning the secession of Texas like he did a few years ago. The other incorrect statement was that the language divide is central to the Quebecois nationalist tensions. That is also not true, since all Canadians learn French in schools. French is an official, national language. The language dimension is a smaller part of a central, ethnic conflict, not a central concern itself.

because it was singing an iconic american song in different languages, so the implication is that speaking in all these different languages is american

So? What does speaking those languages "being American" have to do with the normative claim that Americans being able to speak English is a good thing?
and yeah i do think in america it should be a zero sum game as far as english, its very important that english be a common bond across the entire population especially with all the other differences we have

Being a zero-sum game has no necessarily relationship with English being a common bond across the entire population. No one is arguing with the latter.
if the united states is just a bunch of people that happen to be living in the same geographic area then the united states will cease to exist, the united states has to have a common culture and common language to continue to exist and thrive

No one said anything to the contrary. Why are you putting up these straw men?
 
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according to reality

obviously people are trying to change that, hence this coke commercial
Evidence to support the government changing this?

People spoke Spanish in America before they spoke English.

Not to nit pick but you need to say estadounidense, not America, and you're still wrong!
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/estadounidense
The people that made this country great came from a number of backgrounds and spoke a number of languages.
 

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Okay anyone can just SAY that, but in reality, there's no requirement to speak English to be a US citizen.

if you are an immigrant yes there is a requirement to speak english if you want to be a citizen, at least now there is, im sure @midwesthiphop is trying feverishly to change that requirement
 

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dude stfu
i don't have a problem with many different cultures calling America beautiful in their native language ...we have always been about freedom and ideas not genetic disposition...the idea is that all humans can prosper with the philosophy of freedom and democracy and free markets

What a great example of modern Conservatism.
 

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Texas wants to secede from America.

I wonder if multiculturalism is at the heart of that desire.

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It's not in the Constitution but its also not in the best interest of the country as a whole if people are segregated by language.

Learning English is imperative for immigrants..........

This will never happen for several reasons. First off travelling between borders has never been easier or faster than now. You don't need to board a boat to Ellis island in a matter of weeks. It can now be done in a matter of 24 hours by plane. Second off the internet (high speed internet) allows you to be speak to your relatives in real time, you don't even need to have people mail you newspapers or write letters that can also take weeks. Telecommunication is worldwide. It is easier to install cell phone/4G tower than it is to get constant electricity in some parts of the world. Also the US isn't the only economic powerhouse anymore. You have Latin America that is rising, India, China, and Parts of Africa. Newsflash those people know English and what other language they use for business. The U.S. is being left in the dust because of outdated notions of only one singular language. It is in the best interest of the citizens of this country to know a few other languages.
 

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Stop what? Educating you about ethnic tensions you reductively glossed to try and support your point? You made two incorrect statements. One was that Canada was on the verge of a breakup, which is laughable. Not even your own link supported that. All it said was that a conservative minister from Quebec was challenging the constitutional rules about the legality of secession. Obviously, he lost and never had a chance to begin with. That holds about as much weight as Rick Perry mentioning the secession of Texas like he did a few years ago. The other incorrect statement was that the language divide is central to the Quebecois nationalist tensions. That is also not true, since all Canadians learn French in schools. French is an official, national language. The language dimension is a smaller part of a central, ethnic conflict, not a central one.

quebec seceding is not equivalent to perry suggesting texas secede, texas has not had actual votes to secede, it doesnt have actual political parties advocating secession and its not discussed in cabinet meetings

the likelihood of canada breaking up is besides the point, the point is how far the quebec secession movement has gotten, and its gotten far enough where its discussed in government meetings

the notion that language is not the central divide is bullshyt, there may be other issues but language is obviously central to the dispute

So? What does speaking those languages "being American" have to do with the normative claim that Americans being able to speak English is a good thing?

i already said it, i said that the governments and corporations should stop encouraging second languages as being equal to english

Being a zero-sum game has no necessarily relationship with English being a common bond across the entire population. No one is arguing with the latter.

what do you mean nobody is arguing the latter, no mayo is arguing right now that you dont have to speak english to be american, so in other words he is saying english need not be a common bond for all americans

No one said anything to the contrary. Why are you putting up these straw men?

no mayo is, but i just added that point to explain where i was coming from and why english is important, im not here pushing odyssey's points or white supremacy
 

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Quebec isn't succeeding from anything, the free Quebecois parties barely exists anymore.
 
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The majority of the posters here don't even understand the basic foundations of what makes a Nation. Hilarious.

Actually scratch that, they understand nationhood when it comes to South Africa and Israel but not Western Europe/White Commonwealth/American.

Typical Jewish Behaviour?
 

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Evidence to support the government changing this?

i said people are trying to change that

but corporations and the government are encouraging making other languages equal to english too

People spoke Spanish in America before they spoke English.

and?

Not to nit pick but you need to say estadounidense, not America, and you're still wrong!

sure, whatever you prefer

The people that made this country great came from a number of backgrounds and spoke a number of languages.

i agree that people that made this country great came from a number of backgrounds and spoke a number of languages, whats your point?
 

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no mayo is, but i just added that point to explain where i was coming from and why english is important, im not here pushing odyssey's points or white supremacy

No, I'm not. I'm saying US DOES have a common culture and diversity is included within that culture. It has a common language, which 95% of the population speaks. That's not the same thing as demanding everyone speak the language though, which is what you seem to be advocating. You haven't explained exactly what is the alternative for citizens who don't speak English.
 
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