Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[MAKAVELI25]

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Last summer my fiancée jilted me on our wedding day.

I was standing at the front of the church with my best man, a church full of her family, my family and all our friends enjoying the most important day in my life.

And she never turned up.

After we had been waiting almost an hour her dad came in and said that she’d got cold feet and the wedding was off.

Family and friends had a great party, at my expense, at the reception, while my best mate and dad consoled me over far too much beer.

It was truly the worst day of my life. I was humiliated and totally broke.

She had been the one wanting the fairytale wedding with the big white dress, five bridesmaids, and the reception at the massive hotel with all the trimmings.

And because I loved her I paid for everything.

I would have been happy to have half a dozen mates and our fam-ilies at the register office then a barbecue in the garden.

She wanted a once-in-a-lifetime honeymoon so we were meant to be going to St Lucia for three weeks.

In the end I made my parents go, I couldn’t face it.

As you can imagine, I was devastated and it’s taken me all this time to recover my confidence.

And now she’s come back.

She turned up at my front door two weeks ago and said she had made a horrible mistake and she truly loves me.

I went all shaky and felt a bit sick.

She said she wanted us to get back together then hugged me.

But instead of feeling happy that the one thing I’d wanted for the past year had happened, I recoiled.

She hasn’t apologised for jilting me at the altar, or for the massive bills she’s left me with.

She just expects to be able to waltz back in and everything will be the same. I know I love her but something is stopping me from having her back.

Shall I just say yes and hope for the best?

The fact that dude is even CONSIDERING taking her back is mind boggling.
It shows a lack of self respect, and while Im not absolving her of blame, thats probably why she left him in the first place

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

Something I'm noticing about these PUA sites is if you read the comment sections, you start to see a lot of racists emerging. They are calling themselves 'race realists' LOL

Here is one example:
Women Fighting Against Feminism

That chateau heartiste site is supposedly full of these types as well

Yeah Chateau is pretty crazy, they game stuff on that site is really, really good, but everything outside of that is pretty extreme.

 

[MikelArteta]

Rule I live By never ever take back someone who left me
No matter how pretty, how ot may feel good etc.
No matter if I have zero options


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[karim]

Something I'm noticing about these PUA sites is if you read the comment sections, you start to see a lot of racists emerging. They are calling themselves 'race realists' LOL

Here is one example:
Women Fighting Against Feminism

That chateau heartiste site is supposedly full of these types as well

that's because pua's are essentially sexists, and sexism and racism are similar systems of oppression, designed to ensure the primacy of the white male. that is also why i can't get down with you guys anti feminism rants. feminisms and the sexual liberation of woman arenot the issue.

 

[Turbulent]

that's because pua's are essentially sexists, and sexism and racism are similar systems of oppression, designed to ensure the primacy of the white male. that is also why i can't get down with you guys anti feminism rants. feminisms and the sexual liberation of woman arenot the issue.

it's not feminism we have a problem with. it's some of the hypocrisy behind some of those who currently rep the movement i personally hate.

i think anyone should be free to do and choose whatever they want (men or women). I also think that whatever you choose, you should also accept the consequences that come with these choices (men and women). The people who rep feminism today want more than just freedom of choice.

 

[karim]

it's not feminism we have a problem with. it's some of the hypocrisy behind some of those who currently rep the movement i personally hate.

i think anyone should be free to do and choose whatever they want (men or women). I also think that whatever you choose, you should also accept the consequences that come with these choices (men and women). The people who rep feminism today want more than just freedom of choice.

how so? and what is it they want?

 

[Turbulent]

how so? and what is it they want?

their freedom, your responsibility. they feel like they can try to intimidate, threaten, and even strike a man but when a man hits back, "you shouldn't hit a woman". They feel like they should have the right to fukk who ever they want, however they want but that other people shouldn't have the right to judge them. They have the right to kill your child while they are carrying it and you can't say shyt. they can do whatever they want (you have no say and they have the freedom) but if they choose to keep it, you are responsible (don't get me wrong, i feel like fathers should be responsible for their kids, i just think these laws need major reforms). The laws practically give them freedom to defraud man into paying for their kids and even if the guys later on find out they are not the fathers, they are still financially responsible by law.

If we're talking about equal work, equal pay, legit discrimination issues, etc then yes i agree we all need to work on this. but as far as "cultural issues" i think there is a lot of hypocrisy, again not with the principles of feminism but with what it's become.

 

[karim]

their freedom, your responsibility. they feel like they can try to intimidate, threaten, and even strike a man but when a man hits back, "you shouldn't hit a woman". They feel like they should have the right to fukk who ever they want, however they want but that other people shouldn't have the right to judge them. They have the right to kill your child while they are carrying it and you can't say shyt. they can do whatever they want (you have no say and they have the freedom) but if they choose to keep it, you are responsible (don't get me wrong, i feel like fathers should be responsible for their kids, i just think these laws need major reforms). The laws practically give them freedom to defraud man into paying for their kids and even if the guys later on find out they are not the fathers, they are still financially responsible by law.

If we're talking about equal work, equal pay, legit discrimination issues, etc then yes i agree we all need to work on this. but as far as "cultural issues" i think there is a lot of hypocrisy, again not with the principles of feminism but with what it's become.

well, ok. i can accept that, even though i wouldn't go as far as saying that feminists want all freedom and no responsibility and i think that woman should not be judged for being sexually active, no matter how many partners they had (or if they are judged than men should be held to the same standard). but there is a difference between a nuanced critique of feminism and rants that argue that feminism is destroying society. i see too much of the latter and, as i said, it reminds me of white people ranting against the achievements of the civil rights movement.

 

[Turbulent]

well, ok. i can accept that, even though i wouldn't go as far as saying that feminists want all freedom and no responsibility and i think that woman should not be judged for being sexually active, no matter how many partners they had (or if they are judged than men should be held to the same standard). but there is a difference between a nuanced critique of feminism and rants that argue that feminism is destroying society. i see too much of the latter and, as i said, it reminds me of white people ranting against the achievements of the civil rights movement.

not all feminists want freedom without responsibility. Like i said, my problem is not with the idea or with feminists. My problem is what the mainstream movement has become and the values they are currently pushing. And i think this is what most of the rants are born out of. Ask most guys who have written on this in this thread and they'll probably agree with you when it comes to work discrimination on women, violence against women people, how you should raise both your sons and daughters to have high self esteem and part of that self esteem comes from knowing they are free to do whatever they want and also educating them about consequences and responsibilities (boundaries). So it's not the principles of feminism, it's the mindset of the mainstream movement at this stage that's the problem in my humble opinion.

as far as judging, personally, i think anyone should be free to judge meaning this. I meet a chick and i know for a fact that she's been smutted by crews. It's her freedom and choice. Just like it's my freedom and choice not to wife her specifically because she's been smutted. And if she asks me why i won't wife her, i'll be honest with her. Now say i slept with many women as well. It's also her right to not want to be with me because of that. No one is stopping her from judging me based on that. But if she chooses not to judge me on that, it doesn't mean that i shouldn't judge her on this. She's free but i'm free as well. Live and let live. I'm not stopping her from getting money, not stopping her from living. I'm just not the one.

 

[kevm3]

No one here is advocating that females be forced into a position where they can't get jobs or where they have no choice in society. As Turbulent said, no one is going to disagree for equal pay for equal performance in work, giving women the opportunity to work and the right to be treated respectfully.

We are against the feminism that accepts all the benefits of 'equality' while accepting none of the consequences, as well as attempting to retain traditional benefits while not having to live up to any of its tenets. You know, the kind of feminism where an 'equal woman' can punch, kick and spit in the face of men and scream 'Hit me, hit me, hit me!" over and over and continually harass and attack him even as he's walking away and if the man chooses to defend himself, he's casted as the villain... or you know the kind where women don't want to be traditional women, but still expect men to pay for their dates and reward them with other traditional benefits.

There is a HUGE difference between "PUA" and racist white supremacists. As much as I don't care for PUAs, they are in no way comparable with racial supremacists. PUA is pretty much white terminology for "player." Their whole goal is to strategize on how to get sex from a woman and many PUAs arose because they were getting treated badly by women and ignored by women. That prompted them to come together and shared knowledge on how to deal with women. White supremacy comes from a position of domination and oppressing others. Most of those PUA artists come from a position of inferiority where they weren't getting attention from women or were on the losing end of encounters by women and learned how to improve their dealings with women.

In fact, it's funny how PUAs are looked upon as slimey manipulative scumbags, which is something I can actually agree upon in many cases, but NOT A WORD is said about women manipulators. It's misogyny being spouted on PUA blogs, but it's not misandry when you have a whole industry catered around teaching women how to manipulate men for their own gain. Ever looked on the cover of cosmo magazine? How about the influx of books that show women how to 'train their men like dogs'. How about articles like '10 ways to get your man to do whatever you want' or how about a forum like baller alert where gold diggers discuss how to get with a millionaire to fleece him of his wealth?

The thing is, no one in this thread has even advocated being be a PUA. In fact, we've spoken upon how it's a shallow lifestyle to be avoided. If we were advocating that kind of behavior, we'd have much more discussions on subjects like how to have a stable of hoes, how to get a woman to buy you gifts, etc., but we willingly choose not to discuss that here. There are no musings here on how to 'oppress women.' What we've discussed here is how to improve yourself and to deal with women in such a way that both you and your woman are really enjoying life. What we've been discussing here is REALITY based. If 50/50 relationships where you never had to lead and could just sit back in a relationship and things would be cool, what man wouldn't want that? If you could go to a restaurant and not a word would be raised upon a female paying her own way and you paying your own way, not a word would be raised against 50/50/ We speak against 50/50 because it doesn't WORK. Try it out yourself and see how quick you get taken advantage of or shamed in different ways.

Men have every right to look at a female's past and choose not to mess with her. This so-called double standard only exists because women want it to exist. Women have EVERY right to look at a man's sexual history and avoid a man who is a womanizer and has a history of sleeping around... but many women prefer a player. Just because a woman refuses to take a man's sexual history into account when determining if he's worthy of being in a relationship with doesn't mean the man should. Let's be honest. What is the first thing that people will say if a man gets done bad by a woman whose sexual history he overlooked? "You KNEW she was a ho when you got with her, so why are you surprised?" If we should stop 'slut-shaming', then we should stop pua/player shaming, no?

 

[T-K-G]

well, ok. i can accept that, even though i wouldn't go as far as saying that feminists want all freedom and no responsibility and i think that woman should not be judged for being sexually active, no matter how many partners they had (or if they are judged than men should be held to the same standard). but there is a difference between a nuanced critique of feminism and rants that argue that feminism is destroying society. i see too much of the latter and, as i said, it reminds me of white people ranting against the achievements of the civil rights movement.

the reason why we can never be held to the same standard is because the WAY WE GET SEX IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


a nikka has to actually put in some kind of work to get p*ssy, albeit having game, or just improving yourself to the point that females want you. that's why when females see a man getting alot of sex they get interested, it tells them that this nikka got something going on that other females want.


on the other hand, if a female is even marginally attractive all she has to do is say yes to the nikkas that are constantly trying to smash, she literally has to do NOTHINGS except open her legs, so seeing a woman who gets around alot makes her look like she doesn't have much self control


women refuse to acknowledge this though cuz they would be held accountable for their actions (which they should be accountable for the first place) but then we got people like you who telling me i should look at a girl who's only smashed 4 dudes in her life the same as i would a girl who's smashed 40

 

[karim]

the reason why we can never be held to the same standard is because the WAY WE GET SEX IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


a nikka has to actually put in some kind of work to get p*ssy, albeit having game, or just improving yourself to the point that females want you. that's why when females see a man getting alot of sex they get interested, it tells them that this nikka got something going on that other females want.


on the other hand, if a female is even marginally attractive all she has to do is say yes to the nikkas that are constantly trying to smash, she literally has to do NOTHINGS except open her legs, so seeing a woman who gets around alot makes her look like she doesn't have much self control


women refuse to acknowledge this though cuz they would be held accountable for their actions (which they should be accountable for the first place) but then we got people like you who telling me i should look at a girl who's only smashed 4 dudes in her life the same as i would a girl who's smashed 40

if woman weren't judged for having sex, they wouldn't have to act as if they didn't want to fukk and you wouldn't have to pursue them to the same extent.

 

[T-K-G]

if woman weren't judged for having sex, they wouldn't have to act as if they didn't want to fukk and you wouldn't have to pursue them to the same extent.

people are judged by everything they do, so for women to pick out this one thing and say "you can't judge me for this one" is bullshyt cuz they judge nikkas for everything that we do



i'd rather have a girl who owned up to doing dirt than one who played that "dont judge me" bs


in my opinion it just shows immaturity, what kind of adult gets pissy about being judged on actions that they freely chose to do




that's like a nikka saying " i dont understand why this company wont hire me i did my time for armed robbery 5 years ago why are they judging me on this old shyt "



you see how stupid that sounds? that's the same way women sound to me when they pull that shyt, if they just owned up to it like they wouldn't have it as hard



it goes back to what nikkas have been saying about women not wanting to take responsibility for anything that could be seen as a negative

 

[Turbulent]

if woman weren't judged for having sex, they wouldn't have to act as if they didn't want to fukk and you wouldn't have to pursue them to the same extent.

most of the judging comes from other women.

let me put it to you this way. Women smut guys too. the difference is that women smut guys emotionally. guys try to fukk as many girls as possible because it's like a conquest. Girls have that drive to conquer as well but their way of conquering is to make a guy submit his devotion to her. the more attention she can get without giving it up, the more she is conquering. Just like a dude who can get lots of ass from different girls without giving love, they try to get lots of love from many guys without giving ass. So in essence, it's a false double standard. Sucker for love dudes are like "sluts" to girls cause they give up their attention and devotion easy. They are judged on this, ridiculed, etc (eventhough these guys are not giving up sex). Girls despise them and men dislike them because they are "messing up the game". We get judged on that eventhough we don't judge women who love dudes and are loyal to them without giving ass.

 

[karim]

people are judged by everything they do, so for women to pick out this one thing and say "you can't judge me for this one" is bullshyt cuz they judge nikkas for everything that we do



i'd rather have a girl who owned up to doing dirt than one who played that "dont judge me" bs


in my opinion it just shows immaturity, what kind of adult gets pissy about being judged on actions that they freely chose to do




that's like a nikka saying " i dont understand why this company wont hire me i did my time for armed robbery 5 years ago why are they judging me on this old shyt "



you see how stupid that sounds? that's the same way women sound to me when they pull that shyt



it goes back to what nikkas have been saying about women not wanting to take responsibility for anything that could be seen as a negative

how is having sex in anyway comparable to armed robbery? you make no sense. sex is fun, so how is having a lot of sex wrong if you take the necessary precautions?