Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[<<TheStandard>>]

Question for the men that frequent this thread: What is the top piece of advice that you'd give to your younger self? In a tidbit form?

I would have to say that it would be to devote way more time to personal self-construction and less time toward telling a woman how great and amazing she is. Every time I look back on relationships that I've had, the ones where I had an appropriate amount of respect and gravitas in the relationship were ones where I built myself up in a substantial way, while having willingness to call women out for when they fukk up, almost in a way that treats them like a bratty little sister. The one where I fukked up was one where I was young and very dumb, telling her how amazing and beautiful she was, giving gifts, and a bunch of other things that she never reciprocated.

Ugh... I cringe every single time I think about how dumb I was with her.

I've learned that I have more power than I thought and there's a level of confidence & self esteem you should have. Value yourself over her. In my earlier days, women won just for showing up. Don't be that guy just so you can not be alone, have consistent p*ssy. No matter what they did, I was willing to stick with it because I was insecure & just happy to have girls I liked who wanted to be with me........that made me exhibit outrageously simpish behavior that I just don't stand by anymore. What broke me out of that behavior was dating women I didn't like and seeing how I treated them, how respected myself and how they treated me back vs how I acted around women I liked and how they treated me. There's plenty of women out there, if she's not acting right, she can be replaced. Women should earn the things you do for them, the flowers, the dinners, your exclusivity, your time. It's not just something given out freely.

 

[sixsixtwo]

The Myth of Female Maturity, Part 1

 

[CASHAPP]

The Myth of Female Maturity, Part 1

Women are like maple trees, men like oak trees. The maples grow fast, but only to a certain point. The oak takes time, but grows to a higher level of maturity.










Preach baby

 

[CrossBones]

Nightclubs Are Hypergamy Pods | Sex 3.0

the quotes on this one are

the way he breaksdown the club scene is funny as hell. we know a lot of this already, but he puts the nail on that one and wraps it up nicely.

The Prices

In any normal marketplace, people appreciate value and quality. Now given a marketplace where people are literally selling the exact same thing &#8211; that small bottle of Heineken you get from a nightclub is exactly the same as the small bottle of Heineken you get from your friendly local cheap and cheerful bar &#8211; quality of product is taken out of the equation.

In such a market, everybody would give their business to cheapest vendor right? After all, if you knew two shops within easy walking distance and every loaf of bread, box of cereal and dozen eggs at one store was two or three times the price at the other store (despite the brand on offer being exactly the same) then the expensive store would go out of business in a fortnight.

This does not happen with nightclubs even though it should. Why? Because women&#8217;s hypergamous nature means that they are drawn towards places where a guy does not mind paying 10 bucks for that small bottle of beer and is quite happy to bribe them with $20 cocktails for the opportunity of a conversation.

Women find those guys in the nightclubs with the over priced drinks and not the local cheap and cheerful bar.

Plus nightclubs have the advantage of having music so loud that they can dance with their friends and not really have to talk to guys if they want. They can live for a few hours inside their feel-good / have-fun happy bubble without being disturbed by guys apart from being occasionally bribed with free drinks.

A bit like a plant being watered, expect one wearing stiletto shoes and a short skirt.

Sounds like a bad deal for guys, so why are guys drawn to these nightclubs? For the music? It&#8217;s certainly not for the reasonably priced drinks.

No, they go because that&#8217;s where they know the women are going to be. It&#8217;s a honey trap.

Why else would women get in free and guys have to pay? It&#8217;s because the product being sold is not the small bottle of heineken. The product is women.

I didnt put everything from that article in this post, but I suggest that people check that one out.

 

[CASHAPP]

Barbara on March 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM said:


A number of the things you attribute to immaturity in this article I would say point more to the inherent power imbalance that has existed between women and men.

Women get upset when they are portrayed as childish and needing men to protect and guide them not out of a sense of immaturity. It&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve been routinely discriminated against for years and years and years. Yes, you&#8217;re right&#8211;men are less sensitive about such portrayals. Why should they be? They&#8217;ve had the privilege.


What privilidge? The priviledge of having child support they can spend on entertainment and the court system does nothing about it?
Women more excited about male strippers? It&#8217;s because women are&#8211;even now&#8211;marketed as nothing more than an object of the male gaze. To be in a position where it&#8217;s men who are put in that position that we live with every single day&#8211;oh yes, it&#8217;s intoxicating.



A double standard on genital mutilation jokes? Maybe that&#8217;s because female genital mutilation ACTUALLY HAPPENS. It&#8217;s an accepted part of some cultures. It&#8217;s a potent symbol for the abuse women still suffer at the hands of men.

I am incredibly disappointed by this article. I&#8217;ve read so many insightful articles here, this really shocked me to read it. Whether or not you intended it, the implications that women are immature based on comedic anecdotes and pop culture tidbits&#8211;without any exploration into the deeper cultural meanings behind these things&#8211;is just shoddy science

 

[Jahmal]

Stop Caring

STOP Paying Upfront

Men who end up in the friend zone are men who pay women upfront without making sure the GOODS are actually for sale! This is an idiotic chump move, but a common one.

In the dating world, a player is just a bargain shopper who refuses to overpay for sex or pay upfront for sex. He is out for the best deal possible and he wins by making the woman pay upfront before delivering the goods she is after. Most men are SUCKERS and they OVERPAY upfront for low quality women and get the shaft. They spend money, give support, risk their safety and waste valuable time only to get nothing out of it. Classic nice guy beta male mistake.

All smart people know that only a fool pays upfront. A smart man utilizes the “I.O.U” in order to keep women waiting for “the goods” while she continues to pay for them. This allows him more time to sit in judgment and decide if what is being offered to him is even WORTH payment (the mindset behind hump and dump behavior). The exact opposite of what nice guys do.

As long as you understand that the dating world is very similar to the business world, you’ll thrive. You’ll avoid traps, bad deals, and scams. If you want to believe the sentimental fairy tale crap the media promotes constantly, all I can tell you is have a nice life in the friend zone or being dominated by a bytchy woman. That’s where you’ll end up more often than not.

GOLDEN GAME!

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

I'm going for coffee with that chick, any advice, pointers, etc? Should I pay for her coffee (fukk no)?

 

[MikelArteta]

I'm going for coffee with that chick, any advice, pointers, etc? Should I pay for her coffee (fukk no)?

only way i would pay is if your having a good time, and just pull out the " i got you this time"
coffee is cheap and not expensive

 

[MikelArteta]

just came across this site today, i dont agree with everything but some of it is spot on

Topics | Romancecheater.com

1. Disrespect

Disrespect should never be tolerated. I don&#8217;t care if she is Angelina Jolie. The first time she disrespects you, tell her in a bold and clear way that she is out of line and you will not tolerate it. If she does it a second time, freeze her out for a little while (disappear, stop calling, ignore her, etc). If you decide to be generous and give her a third chance, then she screws up again, tell her to get lost. If she begs to get you back, only agree to mending the relationship under strict conditions YOU decide (I usually make them as unreasonable as possible as a way to punish her. Yeah.. I&#8217;m a jerk).

So what counts as disrespect?

-Lies that insult your intelligence. Example: &#8220;I can&#8217;t see you, I have to wash my hair tonight&#8221; (If you&#8217;re gonna play me, at least be good at it bytch!)
-Habitually Unreliable (Frequently ignoring calls and texts, flaking out, etc.)
-Cheating (As a player this is a double standard.. but still)
-Verbal abuse
-Physical abuse
-Theft
-Yelling and nagging
-Damaging your property
-Spreading rumors or lies about you
-Betrayal

That&#8217;s my personal list, but every man has his own &#8220;hot spots&#8221;. You have to decide for yourself what you consider &#8220;crossing the line&#8221;.

Here is the simply reality: A girlfriend drains a man&#8217;s wallet, but a boyfriend fills a woman&#8217;s wallet. Women like having boyfriends because their expenses go down as a result. The man is still expected to &#8220;provide&#8221; for his girl, even when she is making more money than him. So of course, women are doing better than men! Women are PAID to have a dating life, while men are CHARGED. This only makes women richer and men poorer.

The Honey Trap

This is very similar to the desperation trap. It&#8217;s basically the trap of falling in love and believing you&#8217;ve found that special perfect &#8220;ONE&#8221; who you can never replace. I discuss dealing with emotions as a player here.

The Honey trap is similar to the desperation trap because you end up believing you can&#8217;t do any better than what you have. But guess what? Men usually have more dating options as they age.]/b] If you&#8217;re in your teens or 20&#8217;s you&#8217;ll be more likely to fall into this trap, but it&#8217;s also the time when you should avoid this trap the most.

 

[Mister_DoItNice]

Alright fellas I need to pick your brains. Where do you recommend going on a first date with a woman to see where her head is? I know dinner is out of the question because you don't want to give the impression that you'll drop money on her easily. What other options are there aside from a sporting event, bowling, concert, or a movie? I've been taking my time working on my body, and progressing in my career. I have a promotion test coming up before the summer and after that I'm back to hunting. Just looking for some input. I'm sure there are other options I haven't considered.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

only way i would pay is if your having a good time, and just pull out the " i got you this time"
coffee is cheap and not expensive

Yeah but we're meeting at Starbucks. I didn't want to choose somewhere spectacular plus I've got a lot of studying to do so I figured somewhere close and convient as well as easy would be good for me. And if we enjoy each others presence or whatever schedule a second date. Do I hug her after we're done or should I just wave by?

 

[MikelArteta]

Alright fellas I need to pick your brains. Where do you recommend going on a first date with a woman to see where her head is? I know dinner is out of the question because you don't want to give the impression that you'll drop money on her easily. What other options are there aside from a sporting event, bowling, concert, or a movie? I've been taking my time working on my body, and progressing in my career. I have a promotion test coming up before the summer and after that I'm back to hunting. Just looking for some input. I'm sure there are other options I haven't considered.

my suggestions

if the weather isn't bad and you live in a city just a walk down by the waterfront, i did this for the last date i was on, did not even spend a dollar, just sit back and let the chick talk and size her up, or go to a coffee shop cheap and then just walk around the city.

 

[360dagod]

Alright fellas I need to pick your brains. Where do you recommend going on a first date with a woman to see where her head is? I know dinner is out of the question because you don't want to give the impression that you'll drop money on her easily. What other options are there aside from a sporting event, bowling, concert, or a movie? I've been taking my time working on my body, and progressing in my career. I have a promotion test coming up before the summer and after that I'm back to hunting. Just looking for some input. I'm sure there are other options I haven't considered.

Well since ur in nyc...

What about battery park for the late afternoon tip?

U want to provide a setting where she opens up....

Dinner is cheesy,but its a foundation where she opens up...I understand your sentiments though...

Besides bx and manhattan I dunno....

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Alright fellas I need to pick your brains. Where do you recommend going on a first date with a woman to see where her head is? I know dinner is out of the question because you don't want to give the impression that you'll drop money on her easily. What other options are there aside from a sporting event, bowling, concert, or a movie? I've been taking my time working on my body, and progressing in my career. I have a promotion test coming up before the summer and after that I'm back to hunting. Just looking for some input. I'm sure there are other options I haven't considered.

Anywhere that you can walk. Don't go to a movie, that's like the easy way out and boring. Movies are best watched at home, I'd go to the park, next date a museum, and after that maybe a sports game or something idk.

 

[MikelArteta]

Anywhere that you can walk. Don't go to a movie, that's like the easy way out and boring. Movies are best watched at home, I'd go to the park, next date a museum, and after that maybe a sports game or something idk.

$$$

park and waterfront are free, if dude is in nyc, just walk around the city, if a chick is into you she doesn't care what you do, a dinner and a movie shes been on hundreds of those, now walking sitting by the waterfront or on a park bench as she blabbers on about her life like women love to do = no strain on your wallet.

I remember a date i went on a few years ago and i ended up dating this girl for like 8 months, the first date all we did is sat in a bus stop for like a hour and just talked then we walked like 45 minutes and just talked and that was it

opening up your wallet on the first date sets a precedant of what she is going to expect