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just text this chick i met at work that i wanna go out with her next saturday. and to hit me up if shes interested.
no more no less. good move from what im seeing in here
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just text this chick i met at work that i wanna go out with her next saturday. and to hit me up if shes interested.
no more no less. good move from what im seeing in here
damn good point. What happened though? Why aren't yaw married?
Yeah man you make a good point. Tbh I just get pissed off when someone tells me I can't have something and then especially because of race it's like, bytch my family is probably better than yours how can you even think so highly of yourselves after saying shyt like that?
i met her wednesday, texted her wednesday night, simple hey what up what u up to
then the text i sent about wanting to take her out...no more texts shall be sent until a response is gotten. if no response by...sunday on to the next one.
wait what? u met her at work? at ur place of work?? what? i take it u dont work at one of those real companies?
Remember, guys, the big thrill for a woman is not going on a date, or smooching, or getting laid. The big thrill for a woman is being asked. Once you show interest, she's had her ego boost and probably doesn't need anything more.
What a woman loves more than anything else is to have a guy come up to her and say, "You're beautiful. Would you go to dinner with me?" Then it's an even bigger thrill for her to say, "No, thanks." It makes her feel special, as though she's too good for you. That's it, then. That's the big ego boost, the big thrill.
All of that dating, kissing, and sex stuff is extra. Or, perhaps, only if she wants to further indulge her fantasies, or she's horny.
Just think of it this way: "looks" for women = "money" fo rmen; "being asked (and being able to say no)" for women = "sex" for men.
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My problem was that I worshipped women from afar. I thought that women were something magical and special, and I didn't know how to behave to "deserve" to be with someone like that. (Insert "I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!" here.)
Now that I'm married, it's slowly dawning on me (very slowly) that women are far from being magical and special. Although they're very good at putting up a mysterious, magical, goddess-like façade, there is in fact nothing behind that façade. I'm discovering that when you strip away the curves, the long eyelashes, the coquettish look and little smile that makes your heart go thump-thump (among other things), underneath there is nothing but immaturity, self-aborption, illogic, impracticality, hormones, and emotion. In short, the problem was that I had women on a pedestal. Now that I live with one, all women are coming down off the pedestal in spite of my mental efforts to keep them there (insert sounds of internal battle).
The men who do well with women are those who realize, early on, that women are not the way that they say they are, but are instead the way men say women are. They realize that paying attention to women's complaints about men is a loser's pasttime. My problem was (and, to some extent, still is) learning to put women in their right place in my life. I hope to arrive (someday) at the point where my wife is just there, and I don't base my self-esteem on what she thinks of me, or our home, or the world. To truly internalize (not just realize intellectually) that she gets her opinions from Oprah and her sense of truth from chatting with her girlfriends (who also get their opinions from Oprah).
The problem, of course, is that as a young man I felt the need for female companionship ten times more keenly than I do now. In a way all of this stuff we're writing here on this board is too glib for a guy of 15, 20, or even 25. At that age, I was asking, "How can I find love with a good woman eithout it hurting so much, without being burned and having my heart broken?" The only answer I can give is that you can't. You have to get through all of that stuff in order to put women in their correct context. Without lots of personal experience (either with women or at being rejected by women), you can't fit the pieces into place. The only comfort I can offer is that you're supposed to be screwing up and making lots of mistakes. The fewer mistakes you make, the longer it will take you to figure women out, and the more likely you'll decide to marry before you really understand what's going on. (That'll happen anyway, but it's a question of degree.) There's really nothing we can write here that will allow you to avoid all of that.
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Women believe their friends more than they'll ever believe you. If her friends start telling her stories about how white guys cheat and how you're probably off screwing some waitress, she'll believe it much more readily than she will your protestations of innocence. Your pleadings that you never did anything are just more evidence to her of what a liar you are. Of course, she may eventually relent, but this sort of believe-the-girlfriends behaviour is almost universal among women.
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Women will pick fights because they're bored and want some drama. My wife does this often. I had an ex-girlfriend actually admit to this, saying that she had "tried to pick fights" with me but was frustrated that I hadn't taken the bait. Men, who generally love peace and quiet, think that a complaining woman is unhappy with something and try to fix the problem. In my experience, a complaining woman is simply drama-starved and is trying to make her life more interesting by whinging and/or picking a fight.
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hat has happened in America, among other things, is that women have realized that for heterosexual men, women own the market on lifetime companionship, sex, and family. They think they're the only game in town. They're the cartel. So, they raise their "price" to the skies, all the while having a good laugh over the fact that men have no choice but to pay.
The "price" in this case is not financial. At least, no more than before feminism, and arguably less. Women now make their own money, so men have less pressure on them to earn than before. The "price" that has gone sky-high is the amount of bullshyt that men have to tolerate from their women in order to get companionship, sex, and fatherhood. Or, if you wish, the quality of the companionship and fatherhood products has gone way, way down. Women know this, and they're fine with it. They take exception that men could even entertain the idea that today's women offer the kind of quality companionship and family that their great-grandmothers offered. Women have discovered that so long as they stick together and all demand the old price for the new, inferior product... so long as they form a compact and nobody gives in, men have no choice but to pay.
Women always worked this way. Even in great-grandmother's day a girl who "gave it away" was called a slut and tossed out of the social group. These days the terms are different: "giving it away" is no big deal in America, but offering quality companionship is now what makes all the other women look bad. American women no longer put up high walls to protect the "sex" part of their offering. Instead, they offer easy sex but lower the quality of their companionship to rock bottom. So long as they all do it, it works.
Until, of course, they go somewhere where the women are still offering the old deal: quality companionship, enjoyable sex, and the opportunity for meaningful fatherhood. There are barriers, of course: language and culture barriers that should not be dismissed as trivial. Nonetheless, Western women are outraged because these women break their monopoly. They can no longer offer an inferior product and expect to have men falling over themselves to buy. They must at least raise the quality of companionship to the point that it equals the difficulties in language and culture.
If you raise the price high enough, or lower the quality of your product low enough, your customers will go farther and farther afield looking for a better product or a better price. The worse your product, the less daunting the obstacles of distance, language, and culture seem.
Drama queens usually can't stand to spend time alone. They're not comfortable with themselves. as long as they create drama around them, they never have to look inside and try to sort out what's in there. So, in a sense, the drama diverts them from painful and difficult personal growth issues.
So long as they are the ones creating the drama, or helping to create the drama, they are in control. By inventing crises and problems, they have everyone else running around doing their bidding
They are also narcissists. The one creating the drama is the centre of attention. So long as she keeps creating crises and high drama, people will continue to focus on her and give her attention (which women crave above all else).
Have you ever tried paying no attention at all to a woman? Try it some time. She'll be offended, or maybe worried that you're angry at her. Women require constant affirmation in order to feel "OK." Now try it with a man. He'll probably be grateful for the peace and quiet. If nobody bothers to come over to a man and tell him what a great job he's doing, he just assumes that everything's OK.
the best way to meet women is to find something you enjoy doing, that involves a co-ed team, and do it because it's fun. If after a while (months) you find that all of the women on your team bother you or are not "your type" (whatever that means to you) then look for another team of the same kind. Socialize with the team (and other teams you play against, if it's that sort of thing)... take them up on every social opportunity (and try ogranizing a few yourself)
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If I were to do it all again, I would have walked out on more women, just for the practice. Men often feel that they are powerless in relationships. They don't realize that their true power is the power to say no or leave.
In my case I swore off of this because I heard so many women complaining about men who did this, how they were being cruel, unfair, and self-serving. I vowed not to be one of these men. What I didn't know (naïve little me) was that women were complaining about this male behaviour because this was exactly the one area in which women did not have control. They weren't complaining about unfair treatment; they were complaining that they controlled everything except his ability to say no, or to leave. What irked them is that they didn't have total control.
That's why I advise other men (and myself) to work toward a mental state in which women are nice to have around but are not the central point of life. If you make women the centre of your life then they will know it, and exact payment and favours accordingly. If you make them pleasant accessories, they will complain bitterly and call you all sorts of names, but you will still have female company, and you'll still get laid. "Do everything we say or you won't get any" is a bluff. Once they know you know that, have internalized it, and are living as though it's a bluff, they have to start being more reasonable.
When a man feels the need for affirmation, he generally wants sex. He doesn't want love, or attention. For the most part, a man can get all of the romance he needs whenever he needs it. If he just wants a romantic evening, but has no interest in sex, it shouldn't be too hard to find a woman who is willing to oblige. If, however, he can find a woman who is willing to strip naked and sit on top of him for half an hour, that is an ego boost. Sex, to a man, tells him that he's attractive. It tells him that some woman found him sufficiently sexy that she let down her natural barriers and let him in.
Sex is not affirmation for women. There are exceptions, but for most women, the reality is that they could have sex with most any guy they want to. What makes women feel affirmed is being admired. Being looked at. Having some guy come over and talk to them. Once some guy swallows his fear and walks over to talk to some woman, she doesn't need sex. She knows that she could have him if she wanted him, because he took the trouble to try to talk to her. With some women, it's even just a look. I've had women check me out thoroughly and not-too-subtly, and, as soon as I look back and check her out, she smirks and struts away. Of course she does. She has her affirmation: she was worth a second look. She knows that if she were in the mood, all she has to do is walk up to me, rub up against me, and say, "My place is just around the corner," and that would be that. So, she has everything that she needs: she knows that she's still worth checking out, or she's hot enough that some guy will walk across the floor and say hello.
She is, in effect, the female equivalent of the guy who picks up girls, sleeps with them, and then dumps them. She's the female version of Mr. One Night Stand, except that she doesn't need to go through all of that messy meeting and talking and touching and smooching and ripping off of clothes.
The real bytches don't just walk away, though. They take a vulnerable moment as an opportunity to twist the knife in a bit. They're the female equivalent of the guys who like their one night stands rough: a little pain just makes it all the more exciting.
Anyway, the bottom line is that what most women like this are looking for is the reaction from a man that says, "I think you're hot. I want you." Louis de Bernier said it so well in his book, Captain Corelli's Mandolin: "Attract and resist." That's what women do: they attract, and then resist. Once they know they've attracted you, they don't need any more. Which is precisely why men want sex: because for a man the affirmation is overcoming the resistence.
Women blurt out how they feel in the moment. When they say, "I love you," it doesn't imply any kind of commitment. It just means that, in that moment, she feels what she interprets as "love" toward you. Tomorrow may be a different story.
Most women do not love men. Most women are in love with being in love. They are in love with romance. Whenever they get that warm, fuzzy-teddy-bear feeling for a man, they say, "I'm in love." However, what they're really in love with is the romance and the thrill of imagining what this guy could be like. As soon as the initial romance wears off, they've "lost that lovin' feeling" and they take a hike. It isn't love, it's a fantasy.
Women love emotion and drama. They enjoy telling their girlfriends that they're "in love." In this way, they're looking for any excuse to use the word. It gains them status points. It also lets them act hurt and jilted later when the thing doesn't work out. Everyone feels sorry for them and pays them loads of attention. They really enjoy that.
They know that saying that they "love you" throws you off guard and gives them an advantage. It usually works, so it's a good tactic.
Only the last item involves any conscious or semi-conscious attempt at deception or manipulation. Most of this simply involves the tendency of women to over-dramatize everything, and their tendency to express what they feel in the moment, which means that there are no guarantees, stated or implied.
Yeah that's a good point man, I guess I just feel like why even go through all the bullshyt, why not just cut to the chase that way I don't waste any of my time and I take the path with the least resistance because I'm not into playing games and letting shyt bother me. If anything I'd rather just not talk to her knowing that she's going to try n pull something like that later on down the road. But yeah thanks for the advice g.Defeatist, yes because you're going into the idea of dating them with preconceived notions.
Always hit the reset button with every new chick you encounter. And always harness the mentality that she is going to be who you want her to be, not what her family has engrained in her little forehead or what traditional/cultural ideas have implemented in her thought process (and if you just trine fukk... that's great that she isn't allowed to date brothas, younger girls LOVE to rebel).
Even if you DO fall in love with the babe, who cares what her family thinks - but at this point, all that relationship/matrimonial stuff shouldn't even be in the equation. You asking some profound questions, beigh. Especially somebody at your age.
But that's good though. You have a very inquisitive nature... it's a great quality.
Keep 'em coming. Assembly belt.
But by the end of the day, if you like her, get 'em.
Who knows, she might be the greatest thing you've ever not skipped out on.
Deeg?
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Damn, do you think her mother misses you or wishes that you two were still together?Alot of races he'll even black parents may not approve of you but who cares?
My ex fiance mom hated me at first because I was black, haven't even spoken or seen my ex fiance in like 5 years, but I still get birthday n Christmas cards from her mom, don't let barriers stop you.
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Why? Did you want her to have the baby? Reminds me of the godfather when Kate has the abortion behind michaels back and he slaps the shyt out of her.Because she had a abortion behind my back.
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