Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[Apollo Creed]

To be honest, since i started doing this, i never got to the point where I have to reach out. Typically they will within the first 3 days. The reason i would reach out after about a week and try to set up a meet is so that if they reject (which i would expect at that point) like say you ask them out and they say they are busy, work, blablabla, then i can tell her cool, hit me up when you are free and forget about her. If she comes back weeks or months later, no date, straight lay up.

to your point the shorter window implies they still have interest.

im not saying you need to be text buddies, but if this is someone you are actually interested in then be assertive and put out a feeler. In this day and age a week of no contact = folks done moved on to the next person. These women aint working on construction sites where they cant have their phone lol. They on their phone 80% of the day.

 

[Turbulent]

to your point the shorter window implies they still have interest.

im not saying you need to be text buddies, but if this is someone you are actually interested in then be assertive and put out a feeler. In this day and age a week of no contact = folks done moved on to the next person. These women aint working on construction sites where they cant have their phone lol. They on their phone 80% of the day.

I just feel like the 5 days gives them the opportunity to miss you and think about you. It gives her the opportunity to pursue you (which she wants deep down). Like i said, i never got to that point because girls will typically throw in a "hey you! " within the first 3 days even if they are not feeling you that much, just to keep you as an option.

 

[The ADD]

it doesn't matter if she's thinking the same. If she is, you still reach out on day 5 and set up the next meet.

I see your point but one question I would ask you is, why do you see not reaching out to her for 5 days as wild but you don't see her not reaching out to you for 5 days after you took her out and gave her a great evening as wild?

Well I didn’t say her not reaching out after five days is wild. I said that what if she is doing the same thing on her side then you have two people interested in each other having a stand-off for no real reason. If the stance is I'll show interest when she does then sure but I don’t think a lot of brehs in this thread seeking advice can afford to play that tactic.

The bigger picture issue to me is brehs have to understand where they stand on what they are trying to accomplish and the implications of that. If “light dating/sex” is really the only goal then that’s cool. Implement your game plan but realize that there will be wins and losses. If ultimately you are looking for something more substantial I think you have to take the games off the table. Keep your principles and standards but also waiting five days might cause you to lose out on something that could have some upside.

@Turbulent That last part isn’t at you it’s generally speaking. Just as an older breh that’s had ups and downs I think some younger brehs are getting the lines confused on what they generally want, how to go about it and the complications of those tactics.

 

[Turbulent]

Well I didn’t say her not reaching out after five days is wild. I said that what if she is doing the same thing on her side then you have two people interested in each other having a stand-off for no real reason.

The bigger picture issue to me is brehs have to understand where they stand on what they are trying to accomplish and the implications of that. If “light dating/sex” is really the only goal then that’s cool. Implement your game plan but realize that there will be wins and losses. If ultimately you are looking for something more substantial I think you have to take the games off the table. Keep your principles and standards but also waiting five days might cause you to lose out on something that could have some upside.

@Turbulent That last part isn’t at you it’s generally speaking. Just as an older breh that’s had ups and downs I think some younger brehs are getting the lines confused on what they generally want, how to go about it and the complications of those tactics.

i meant you see it as wild to not reach out to her but it doesn't seem like you see her not reaching out to you as wild.

As far as it being a stand off/games or a tactic, i don't really think of it like that. I just see it as letting it breathe. I'm not saying to never reach out. If someone wants to give it 3 days,or 2 days or 12 hours, to each his own. I'm just saying 5 days seems like the sweet spot imo because some have reached out on the 3rd day. It's not about winning or losing. She wants to be the one to reach out to you. She wants to feel like she got a catch and participated in the romance. And when she reaches out, you are not arrogant about it like you played her. You are loving and cool and happy to hear from her and set up the next one while making her feel like her reaching out to you is contributing to your happiness.


Like i said i feel what you guys are saying. Different styles and i respect your point of view as well.

 

[The ADD]

i meant you see it as wild to not reach out to her but it doesn't seem like you see her not reaching out to you as wild.

As far as it being a stand off/games or a tactic, i don't really think of it like that. I just see it as letting it breathe. I'm not saying to never reach out. If someone wants to give it 3 days,or 2 days or 12 hours, to each his own. I'm just saying 5 days seems like the sweet spot imo because some have reached out on the 3rd day. It's not about winning or losing. She wants to be the one to reach out to you. She wants to feel like she got a catch and participated in the romance. And when she reaches out, you are not arrogant about it like you played her. You are loving and cool and happy to hear from her and set up the next one while making her feel like her reaching out to you is contributing to your happiness.


Like i said i feel what you guys are saying. Different styles and i respect your point of view as well.

Again I’m not saying a woman not reaching out after five days isn’t wild but we are speaking more from the brehs perspective here. I will say that generally speaking I wouldn’t expect them to reach out after five days because big picture they expect the men to do so before then. That’s a separate issue which could be another debate.

Good exchange and I still think the important thing here is context and how brehs deploy advice relative to situations. Depending on the factors of how you met, letting it breathe a few days could sink a breh. If you doing numbers like that then it’s not a big deal, conversely if you aren’t then it seems like a bad percentage play. A simple text could open her up to pursuing more.

Good discussion. Good to have different views and a reasonable conversation.

 

[Turbulent]

Again I’m not saying a woman not reaching out after five days isn’t wild but we are speaking more from the brehs perspective here. I will say that generally speaking I wouldn’t expect them to reach out after five days because big picture they expect the men to do so before then. That’s a separate issue which could be another debate.

Good exchange and I still think the important thing here is context and how brehs deploy advice relative to situations. Depending on the factors of how you met, letting it breathe a few days could sink a breh. If you doing numbers like that then it’s not a big deal, conversely if you aren’t then it seems like a bad percentage play. A simple text could open her up to pursuing more.

Good discussion. Good to have different views and a reasonable conversation.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I just feel like the 5 days gives them the opportunity to miss you and think about you. It gives her the opportunity to pursue you (which she wants deep down). Like i said, i never got to that point because girls will typically throw in a "hey you! " within the first 3 days even if they are not feeling you that much, just to keep you as an option.

if a woman misses you she won't go a day or 2 without contact lol

 

[Ahadi]

if a woman misses you she won't go a day or 2 without contact lol

Yeah.. that 5 days shyt is pick up artist written all over it.

2021 is short term attention span generation. If it ain’t 2-3 days it’s a dub

 

[Krisrunner2049]

Yeah.. that 5 days shyt is some pick up artist written all over it.

2021 is short term attention span generation. If it ain’t 2-3 days it’s a dub

Day 1 clock is ticking

 

[Ahadi]

Day 1 clock is ticking

Keep the plates spinning. Talk to more joints

 

[Killigraphy]

Yeah.. that 5 days shyt is pick up artist written all over it.

2021 is short term attention span generation. If it ain’t 2-3 days it’s a dub

Depends honestly, some women like and only know retreat-tactics. So I put them on ice for weeks. Only to have them hit me up with "Can I call you at x hour". They like playing the waiting game, till they realize how much better than them I am. Every women knows that my happiness comes first, there's no illusion, and they don't create or are at the end of my greatness, I put that forward first, and they can pout all they want, till they want to meet up and suck.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yeah.. that 5 days shyt is pick up artist written all over it.

2021 is short term attention span generation. If it ain’t 2-3 days it’s a dub

exactly. I think the mistake dudes make is putting too much energy into one chick. Dudes need to take heed to that 'she aint you're it's just your turn' and practice the same philosophy themselves. Main thing that hurts brehs is we tend to be laser focus on goals, and cant do things in parallel, so we put all our energy (on average) on the chick who is our goal at the time. This is why you need things to keep you occupied and productive, whether it be side projects, a roster of other women, hobbies, etc. Pretty much where you minimize your idle time where you got other stuff to worry about than if 1 chick texts you back or not.

It's a dirty game out here, and unless you are someone's fiancé (and hell even then) always assume there are other people in the picture, so don't get your soul taken. The days of disney are over (hell they never existed).

 

[Turbulent]

I think the debate about the number of days doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. It's not about that. My main point is that at some moment, you have to give her the opportunity to participate in the process. You gotta give her the opportunity to take some action so she feels like she is also part of making things happen. When she reaches out, you make it easy for her. The reason I say to reach out after a certain point is so that she knows the door is still slightly open but if she doesn't get in, next time she will have to knock to get in. At that point you expect them to pass on you but they are just putting themselves in a position where you will take them less seriously if they ever decide to come back. But it's not playing games against her. It's giving her options on how she wants to go about it. And of course you are still meeting and talking to other women.

5 days, 3 days, whatever. Like i said, if the first date is great, she will shoot you a text within 3 days 95%of the time do the debate on the number of days is irrelevant. As far as if you should even bother after 5 days or just throw it in the bushes, i could understand why some would say fukk it. The way i see it, it's a low investment of time and energy to ask her out again.

 

[Krisrunner2049]

Keep the plates spinning. Talk to more joints

I plan to, shyt is pretty fun. I wanna fw them Italian girls I saw in North Beach yesterdayjust gotta find a way to finesse another low cost night out

 

[Hagendas]

If she says “I’ll let you know” just enjoy your night bro