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one of the worst concepts ever created in the dating world. A concept that allows men to go into denial about the rejection they've experienced call it something else that sounds better to them and continue to persist beyond the initial rejection.

the truth is there is no such thing as friend zone. Rejection is still rejection regardless of what watered down sugar coated name you wrap around it.

The friend zone does exist and so does rejection. They can exist simultaneously. If you are in the friend zone, you have been rejected at one point. What makes being in the friend zone so unique is that the woman doesn't mind you in their life, just not on the level that you wish to be with her. No doubt, this is still rejection, but most men who fall into this precarious situation do so because they took something rather than nothing, hoping that if he remained close to her, she would one day change her mind.

Nobody denies that it is a form of rejection, nor are we trying to establish whether it is better or worse than being rejected and moving on. Only thing we can confirm is that it is a place you don't want to be because you wanted to pursue more than a friendship.
 

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The friend zone does exist and so does rejection. They can exist simultaneously. If you are in the friend zone, you have been rejected at one point. What makes being in the friend zone so unique is that the woman doesn't mind you in their life, just not on the level that you wish to be with her. No doubt, this is still rejection, but most men who fall into this precarious situation do so because they took something rather than nothing, hoping that if he remained close to her, she would one day change her mind.

Nobody denies that it is a form of rejection, nor are we trying to establish whether it is better or worse than being rejected and moving on. Only thing we can confirm is that it is a place you don't want to be because you wanted to pursue more than a friendship.
There is no friend zone. A vulture circling overhead waiting for a chance to strike is not a friend. Friendship is not a undesirable zone its a mutually desired and beneficial relationship between two willing participants. What you're calling the friend zone is just an awkward phase that happens post-rejection when a man continues to persist dealing with a female that rejected them. The truth is because this concept was created most men don't even recognize they've been rejected because they don't see this supposed friend zone for what it truly is.

so no the friend zone is not real its a false imaginary prison people who can't accept the truth place themselves in. The moment they accept the truth the imagined prison vanishes and they can either really become true friends or stop dealing with her and move on.
 

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There is no friend zone. A vulture circling overhead waiting for a chance to strike is not a friend. Friendship is not a undesirable zone its a mutually desired and beneficial relationship between two willing participants. What you're calling the friend zone is just an awkward phase that happens post-rejection when a man continues to persist dealing with a female that rejected them. The truth is because this concept was created most men don't even recognize they've been rejected because they don't see this supposed friend zone for what it truly is.

so no the friend zone is not real its a false imaginary prison people who can't accept the truth place themselves in. The moment they accept the truth the imagined prison vanishes and they can either really become true friends or stop dealing with her and move on.

You are correct. The friend zone exists because the man can't accept the true nature of the relationship he has with the woman. I think our overall goal is to prevent this from ever happening. I certainly do not condone the "friend zone". I agree with you wholeheartedly on that point.

I'm glad you brought this up because it connects to another point I often speak about in my blogs "the nature of platonic relationships between men and women." I don't want to digress, but I think this may be interesting to explore.

My theory is that most relationships between men and women are not platonic. They are either:

a) a person you tried to get with/fukk and failed, so u settled for friendship or vice versa

b) a friend that you just didn't get with/fukk as of yet

c) a mixture of both

Most relationships are grounded. What I mean by that is both parties know where they stand, so they would never cross the lines. This does not mean that there is no sexual curiosity, it's just that the boundaries have been set. A true platonic relationship is one in which both parties have no sexual desires towards each other at all in any shape, way or form.

Most females actually believe that their relationships with their male friends are platonic and that he would never try anything. However, most males said that given the opportunity to sleep with one of their female friends they would do it. So where's the discrepancy? Let me shed some light.

A majority of the time, relationships become platonic on the terms of the female which is what I recognize as being placed into the friend zone. Unless the girl is very unattractive, a man will most likely want to have sex with her. Whether he acts on it is a different story. But being platonic has nothing to do with the physical action, it has to do with the mentality.

It's not really a gem, just something to think about
 

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You are correct. The friend zone exists because the man can't accept the true nature of the relationship he has with the woman. I think our overall goal is to prevent this from ever happening. I certainly do not condone the "friend zone". I agree with you wholeheartedly on that point.

I'm glad you brought this up because it connects to another point I often speak about in my blogs "the nature of platonic relationships between men and women." I don't want to digress, but I think this may be interesting to explore.

My theory is that most relationships between men and women are not platonic. They are either:

a) a person you tried to get with/fukk and failed, so u settled for friendship or vice versa

b) a friend that you just didn't get with/fukk as of yet

c) a mixture of both

Most relationships are grounded. What I mean by that is both parties know where they stand, so they would never cross the lines. This does not mean that there is no sexual curiosity, it's just that the boundaries have been set. A true platonic relationship is one in which both parties have no sexual desires towards each other at all in any shape, way or form.

Most females actually believe that their relationships with their male friends are platonic and that he would never try anything. However, most males said that given the opportunity to sleep with one of their female friends they would do it. So where's the discrepancy? Let me shed some light.

A majority of the time, relationships become platonic on the terms of the female which is what I recognize as being placed into the friend zone. Unless the girl is very unattractive, a man will most likely want to have sex with her. Whether he acts on it is a different story. But being platonic has nothing to do with the physical action, it has to do with the mentality.

It's not really a gem, just something to think about

i agree my one true female friend i've known since i was young and she is more of a sister, these other chicks who i'm "friends with", im not attracted to them, i smashed in the past but it was just like a fwb

but these people arent folks i can count on when things go bad
 

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You are correct. The friend zone exists because the man can't accept the true nature of the relationship he has with the woman. I think our overall goal is to prevent this from ever happening. I certainly do not condone the "friend zone". I agree with you wholeheartedly on that point.

I'm glad you brought this up because it connects to another point I often speak about in my blogs "the nature of platonic relationships between men and women." I don't want to digress, but I think this may be interesting to explore.

My theory is that most relationships between men and women are not platonic. They are either:

a) a person you tried to get with/fukk and failed, so u settled for friendship or vice versa

b) a friend that you just didn't get with/fukk as of yet

c) a mixture of both

Most relationships are grounded. What I mean by that is both parties know where they stand, so they would never cross the lines. This does not mean that there is no sexual curiosity, it's just that the boundaries have been set. A true platonic relationship is one in which both parties have no sexual desires towards each other at all in any shape, way or form.

Most females actually believe that their relationships with their male friends are platonic and that he would never try anything. However, most males said that given the opportunity to sleep with one of their female friends they would do it. So where's the discrepancy? Let me shed some light.

A majority of the time, relationships become platonic on the terms of the female which is what I recognize as being placed into the friend zone. Unless the girl is very unattractive, a man will most likely want to have sex with her. Whether he acts on it is a different story. But being platonic has nothing to do with the physical action, it has to do with the mentality.

It's not really a gem, just something to think about
A lot of these friend zone types these women know these guys are dikk in a glass case. They keep these men around to stroke their egos. Most of the time I've seen women use the term friend to describe a male its a lie. Either he's a predator waiting for a moment of weakness to strike or he's the provider simp type trying to win her over or he's somebody she fukked or is fukking and the term friend is used as a cover up to feign innocence.

the key to a male female friendship is lack of attraction on both sides. When sexual attraction and tension can be removed only then can a man and woman be friends but the typical male would lust after a random woman he doesn't even know and if given the chance would bend her over in a filthy gas station bathroom and hit it without even knowing her name so how often is it possible to remove sexual tension from the male side?
 

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"As recipients of a man’s giving, women do everything to receive your praise. Often times women will pretend they aren’t interested in you just to get more praise from you.
When you pursue a woman, she feels validated by your interest. She wants to prolong this pleasurable feeling. By pushing you away, she is hoping you will continue to pursue her. This feels even more pleasurable because she has created an artificial obstacle. The more obstacles she can get you to overcome to gain her affection, the more pleasure she feels. This eventually “turns her on” and encourages her to reciprocate at some point.
Other games played by women aren’t games from their point of view. Many female behaviors are inherent to female insecurity. For example, women will flake on dates or fail to call you because they’re worried that something will go wrong. They’re anxious about how you’ll perceive them. They’re nervous and apprehensive about breaking social expectations. Insecurity causes women to waffle back and forth between decisions or neglect to make a decisions altogether. This is why it’s crucial for you to direct and bring order to a woman’s insecure life."
 
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Sometimes I wonder if as man we really love the person or if we just love vagina
we love the benefits that women have to offer and vice versa. i firmly believe that we as people base love off of the image of a person and what we do for each other. all that "i love you for you" or "i want you to love me for me" shyt is a fallacy. only you can love yourself, for you.
 

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Can someone explain to me why women take any and everything you say online as a personal attack on them?


shyt is hilarious and sad at the same time
 

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Can someone explain to me why women take any and everything you say online as a personal attack on them?


shyt is hilarious and sad at the same time

Sorry didn't want this on google so I had to spoiler it up.

From my experience, its a red flag. It usually means they're doing dirt and they feel guilty and embarrassed about the dirt they're doing to someone they believe is a stand up dude. They can't rationalize a reason for doing you dirty so they get mad at you.

I would usually drop fabricated subliminals on Facebook and see who and how they would react, 9 times out of 10, the chick that calls and ask if the last status update was for them, or if she sees you and tries to avoid you or pretends you don't exist if you both are in the same venue together, you share that girl.
 

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Sorry didn't want this on google so I had to spoiler it up.

From my experience, its a red flag. It usually means they're doing dirt and they feel guilty and embarrassed about the dirt they're doing to someone they believe is a stand up dude. They can't rationalize a reason for doing you dirty so they get mad at you.

I would usually drop fabricated subliminals on Facebook and see who and how they would react, 9 times out of 10, the chick that calls and ask if the last status update was for them, or if she sees you and tries to avoid you or pretends you don't exist if you both are in the same venue together, you share that girl.


I feel ya on most of that. Im just trying to figure out this damn girl im talkin to now. She be trippin bout the smallest things. I dont think shes not used to being comfortable & shes only comfortable when there is conflict. Today I was like stop being insecure and she flipped her wig gettin all types of mad.

I know her ex and he used to beat the shyt outta her and all sorts of crazy shyt. Im trying to figure out what angle I should take on things :smh:
 

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You didn't mention she was in an abusive relationship prior.


It was already mentioned by these two gents here it pretty much explains it. Sorry to put it so bluntly... If the chick who you're talking about is your girl and was in an abusive relationship... It's only a matter of time before she goes back to the abusive guy or cheats on you with him... He is already in her head, and usually the amount of time she spent with him while he was abusive is inversely propotional to the amount of "mind control" he has on her. Prepare yourself is all I can say man.


you can save a man from a burning building and he will feel loyalty towards you for the rest of his life. No matter if this was your sworn enemy at one point, s because men have senses of honor and integrity whereas women are utterly bereft and incapable of developing these.

you can save a chick with two kids from a abusive relationship the first guy to ever treat her like a human being, and she will still cheat and leave you for her deadbeat baby dad who assaulted her

Yeah pretty much. Women are attracted to certain traits more than anything. "Being there" for a woman all the time and holding her down will do nothing but get you cheated on because you are too boring and predictable in a lot of these woman's eyes. It all comes down to how much a woman likes you and how much you can keep her emotionally involved/entertained.

To me mane, a lot of women are nothing but pure headaches, which is why I'm extremely careful in how I deal with them. I'm single right now and loving it. A great relationship is the best, but single is way better than what you'd get from a lot of these women out there. Having to worry about if your woman is cheating, if she's appreciating what you're doing for her, worrying if the kid is really yours... nah I'm cool on all that. That one that's built for the long-term is rare indeed.




I feel ya on most of that. Im just trying to figure out this damn girl im talkin to now. She be trippin bout the smallest things. I dont think shes not used to being comfortable & shes only comfortable when there is conflict. Today I was like stop being insecure and she flipped her wig gettin all types of mad.

I know her ex and he used to beat the shyt outta her and all sorts of crazy shyt. Im trying to figure out what angle I should take on things :smh:

This was also mentioned a few posts back.

A woman isn't happy unless she's unhappy.
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Don't deal with women who don't have filters. If she feels the need to say what she feels when she feels, I guarantee nothing but problems in the future.

They like to consider themselves as being "strong" women. Men should never deal with women who want male characteristics. This is a male characteristic. You can find an intelligent women who is not argumentative and can voice her opinions and concerns respectfully.

Overly aggressive women who desire male characteristics do not cope well in relationships with men, only simps who allow them to take control of the relationship (which is all they truly want).

Save yourself the headache.
 

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I feel ya on most of that. Im just trying to figure out this damn girl im talkin to now. She be trippin bout the smallest things. I dont think shes not used to being comfortable & shes only comfortable when there is conflict. Today I was like stop being insecure and she flipped her wig gettin all types of mad.

I know her ex and he used to beat the shyt outta her and all sorts of crazy shyt. Im trying to figure out what angle I should take on things :smh:

You should run

I dated a girl who was in a abusive relationship

:sadbron:

I was dating this chick for like 3 months, she lived like two hours away (red flag), last relatiosnhip was abusive (red flag), anyways things were going good or so I thought, she would mention er abusive ex but i thought nothing off it, being a sneaky nicca, i installed a keylogger on my pc and when she was over at my house she signed into her facebook and checked her email, i got her passwords and :wow:, yep i was getting played breh by the nicca who almost beat her to death :childplease:, when i saw them fb msgs and the email that feeling in my stomach breh, i guess its called the damn nicca you got cheated on feeling. Oh ya b*tch went back to that nicca and got beat yet again and sent me a msg on fb a few months later :pacspit:

Unless she has gotten therapy, counseling and it's been years

Run, run right now, I'm serious these women are messed, they actually get
Scared of when a guy treats them like a human and has no ulterior motive, trust me it doesn't matter how hot she is, or how nice she is at the moment don't do it. Don't be. A rescuer don't feel sorry you will kick yourself in the end.
 
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