Question for Atheists

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

i look at it like, religious people are content to believe that god was always just there, end of discussion. so why cant i just say that the universe was always just here? whats the difference?

heres a question for those who believe in creation: what the fukk are Neanderthals?

Do you mean the universe in its current form? or do you think that the universe is a never ending expansion and contraction?

Big Crunch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and then we're back down to a point when the big bang just occurs again?

 

[ogc163]

They should continue reading the Jungle Book and twerking at church.

 

[MouseTeeth]

Pretty much. I don't know shyt, that's the only thing I know.

I came in here to say this. But I will say on a grand scale humanity's motivation has been to find out where we came from and who/what created us. We just came up with a bunch of outlandish stories. Nobody knows for sure what really happened. But in time I think science will allow us to fill in some major gaps. Imagine what we'll know in a thousand years

 

[Slang]

The big bang is pretty much scientific FACT. The universe is expanding at an increasing rate every second, so if you hit "rewind" on the tape of the universe, it would start off as an infinitely small point

Or a never ending loop

 

[Monoblock]

How to suck at your religion - The Oatmeal

 

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[MeachTheMonster]

The big bang is pretty much scientific FACT. The universe is expanding at an increasing rate every second, so if you hit "rewind" on the tape of the universe, it would start off as an infinitely small point

That's not necessarily true. Our current laws of physics dont add up with the big bang. The fact that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate actualy clashes with the big bang theory. Our current laws of physics suggest that matter should be slowing down after an explosion not speeding up. So the universe should actualy be expanding slower and slower instead of speeding up. Scientist are going to have to prove there is something else in the universe effecting all matter to make it react this way, or their going to have to change the big bang theory.

As far as the idea of god. I don't think he/she/it is something man could even intellectualize. We try to so, we give it a name and a face. But I think the real creator is way beyond our comprehension. I disagree with those who say the universe is just purely random and everlasting, because if that's the case nothing is real or unique. If the universe is totally random eventually there will be another you, another me talking to you on the coli, Another earth, another milky way, and on and on. There has to be a beginning and an end to the universe or we are all just random clones that are being continually created and destroyed. And I believe something started and will stop the universe. It may not be god as we think of him, it probably isn't even a physical being but, SOMETHING started the universe.

 

[Robbie3000]

That's not necessarily true. Our current laws of physics dont add up with the big bang. The fact that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate actualy clashes with the big bang theory. Our current laws of physics suggest that matter should be slowing down after an explosion not speeding up. So the universe should actualy be expanding slower and slower instead of speeding up. Scientist are going to have to prove there is something else in the universe effecting all matter to make it react this way, or their going to have to change the big bang theory.

As far as the idea of god. I don't think he/she/it is something man could even intellectualize. We try to so, we give it a name and a face. But I think the real creator is way beyond our comprehension. I disagree with those who say the universe is just purely random and everlasting, because if that's the case nothing is real or unique. If the universe is totally random eventually there will be another you, another me talking to you on the coli, Another earth, another milky way, and on and on. There has to be a beginning and an end to the universe or we are all just random clones that are being continually created and destroyed. And I believe something started and will stop the universe. It may not be god as we think of him, it probably isn't even a physical being but, SOMETHING started the universe.

The fact that the universe is expanding is evidence of the big bang. The fact that the expansion is accelerating over time, affects our theories about what will eventually happen to the universe, but it does not discredit the big bang theory.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The fact that the universe is expanding is evidence of the big bang. The fact that the expansion is accelerating over time, affects our theories about what will eventually happen to the universe, but it does not discredit the big bang theory.

Using our curent laws of physics please explain to me how matter can continue to accelerate after an explosion. You can't and scientists can't yet they chose to ignore the big elephant in the room or say they will explain it later. More and more scientists are starting to disagree with the big bang theory because it just doesn't add up.

 

[The Real]

Using our curent laws of physics please explain to me how matter can continue to accelerate after an explosion. You can't and scientists can't yet they chose to ignore the big elephant in the room or say they will explain it later. More and more scientists are starting to disagree with the big bang theory because it just doesn't add up.

Your point assumes that the momentum from the Big Bang is the only thing driving the expansion of the universe, which need not be the case, and most probably isn't.

Also, the current laws of physics aren't always applicable to the early or pre-universe, since their current existence is a product of the Big Bang itself.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Your point assumes that the momentum from the Big Bang is the only thing driving the expansion of the universe, which need not be the case, and most probably isn't.

Also, the current laws of physics aren't always applicable to the early or pre-universe, since their current existence is a product of the Big Bang itself.

The big bang theory ASSUMES that something else is exerting force on the universe. This something else hasn't been proven yet. It could be one day, it might not be. Point is the big bang is not the be all end all solution to the universe and one day it will be changed or discredited as we learn more about the universe.

When the big bang was first theorized, scientists only knew the universe was expanding not accelerating. Once they figured out it was excelerating the big bang no longer made sense so they had to come up with new theories as to how that could happen using our current laws of phyisics.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Using our curent laws of physics please explain to me how matter can continue to accelerate after an explosion.

Why do you assume the event stopped??? Don't the laws of physics also say an object in motion stays in motion???

You keep asking why the universe is expanding, I ask what is the force that is keeping it from doing so

 

[The Real]

The big bang theory ASSUMES that something else is exerting force on the universe. This something else hasn't been proven yet. It could be one day, it might not be. Point is the big bang is not the be all end all solution to the universe and one day it will be changed or discredited as we learn more about the universe.

When the big bang was first theorized, scientists only knew the universe was expanding not accelerating. Once they figured out it was excelerating the big bang no longer made sense so they had to come up with new theories as to how that could happen using our current laws of phyisics.

The Big Bang still makes sense. The point is that there is more to the universe's acceleration than the momentum from the Big Bang itself.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Why do you assume the event stopped??? Don't the laws of physics also say an object in motion stays in motion???

You keep asking why the universe is expanding, I ask what is the force that is keeping it from doing so

Gravity, friction, and collisions between matter should be slowing it down. In an explosion all of the energy is released at once. After the explosion there is no more energy left to continue to accelerate the objects so they begin to slow down immediately.

 

[acri1]

The big bang theory ASSUMES that something else is exerting force on the universe. This something else hasn't been proven yet. It could be one day, it might not be. Point is the big bang is not the be all end all solution to the universe and one day it will be changed or discredited as we learn more about the universe.

When the big bang was first theorized, scientists only knew the universe was expanding not accelerating. Once they figured out it was excelerating the big bang no longer made sense so they had to come up with new theories as to how that could happen using our current laws of phyisics.

Dark energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The idea doesn't conflict with or disprove the Big Bang theory. Regardless of why the expansion is speeding up, scientific consensus is still that the universe emerged from a much hotter, denser state.