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They calculated the size and effect of SOMETHING in the universe. They describe this something as dark matter. But that doesn't prove that dark matter exists or that they were actually observing it, or that dark matter is what they think it is.

For example I can observe a tree's leaves shaking and theorize that the wind is blowing, but in reality there could be plenty of reasons why that tree is shaking.

They named it dark matter in order to hypothesize that something existed, rather than describing it as dark matter beforehand, and observing it in the link I posted was what proved that this placeholder concept of dark matter did indeed refer to something real and measurable.
 

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They named it dark matter in order to hypothesize that something existed, rather than describing it as dark matter beforehand, and observing it in the link I posted was what proved that this placeholder concept of dark matter did indeed refer to something real and measurable.

I understand what they are saying but what I am saying is that they have not been able to PROVE it. Saying "this part of the universe isn't acting right so there must be something there" proves nothing. It doesn't prove that the theories of dark matter are true, it doesn't prove that dark matter is what they think it is, and it doesn't prove that dark matter behaves the way they think it does. It just proves SOMETHING is there. As of right now the idea of dark matter is in it's infancy. Maybe one day it will be proven maybe one day it won't but as of right now the concept of dark matter is used to explain the otherwise unexplainable.
 

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Read up, I'd rather not attempt to explain such a complicated thing to a simpleton

Time dilation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i wasnt using your theory when i replied.

but lets play along
...What is more, the local experience of time passing never actually changes for anyone. In other words, the astronauts on the ship as well as the mission control crew on earth each feel normal, despite the effects of time dilation
thats because our concept of time revolves around sunrise and sunset, how long it takes the earth to rotate around the sun.

but how can that same time be used outside of earth itself? the sun is always shining in outter space. there is no sunrise or sunset.

its always set.

so the only way you could actually calculate time is by using decay of oneself or some other animal, insect, plant life on earth.

because it wont matter if its sunny 24/7 or dark 24/7 the moment we're born we start to grow, then we start to decay. thats the only TIME thats consistent no matter where we are in this universe.
 

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i wasnt using your theory when i replied.

but lets play along
thats because our concept of time revolves around sunrise and sunset, how long it takes the earth to rotate around the sun.

but how can that same time be used outside of earth itself? the sun is always shining in outter space. there is no sunrise or sunset.

its always set.

so the only way you could actually calculate time is by using decay of oneself or some other animal, insect, plant life on earth.

because it wont matter if its sunny 24/7 or dark 24/7 the moment we're born we start to grow, then we start to decay. thats the only TIME thats consistent no matter where we are in this universe.

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I don't even know what to say about this post.

This is what bothers me so much about posting here. You can't even acknowledge that his post was justified? You just quote-mine a sentence that make it seem like you know wtf you're talking about. We are beyond sundials, you dolt.
 

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naw, you aint getting off that easy.

prove it. are you saying if i two twins are rolling down the 405 in two different cars. and one is going 100mph. while the other is going 65mph. the one going 100mph will actually age slower then the one going 65?

or is it because we're basing time and aging on destination. meaning which twin makes it to a destination first is therefore younger at said destination then the other twin that makes it there later.

you get it?
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:wow:

This is easily the dumbest, most taken out of context example I've ever read.

:wow: :wtf: :wow:
 

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serious question, no :troll:

What are your thoughts on the creation of the universe/life?

Obviously no one has the right answer, but whats your take?

Myself, I wouldn't call myself religious in that I don't but into any organized religion, but I can't say that I don't believe in some sort of higher power that's responsible for our existence :manny:


edit: :pachaha: @ :troll: I was expecting the OG troll face

Life is the result of natural processes imo. The universe? No idea.
 
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