Quentin Tarantino says streaming movies 'don't exist in the zeitgeist': 'It's almost like they don't even exist'

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Streaming fukked everything up. First music and now movies.

Music and movies used to have value. Spending $10 on a CD meant you had to actually listen to an album even if it was trash. You might even discover a song that you like. Now for the price of listening to some ads, you have access to all the music ever recorded in history. Same thing with movies. Why go to the movies when for the price of subscription to a couple of streaming sites, I have access to more movies than what used to be in stock at the average Block Buster video.

Things have value when they are scarce. When I used to buy DVDs I used to take such pride in my collection. Even when I bought DVDs from the sale bin, I wasn’t going to lose interest after 10 minutes of watching. I certainly wasn’t going to stop watching a DVD I paid full price for.

Streaming made movies disposable like broadcast TV.
 

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Netflix has always overpaid for shyt, ESPECIALLY comedians
I knew this, but when u see the actual figures. Aint nobody trying to see Gal Gadot if she aint naked or in the Wonder Woman outfit. Then paying Ryan Reynolds 20mil is just unforgivable. I coulda had another season of Messiah or Mindhunter and they just throwin away 100s of millions on bs. Horrible management of funds. Reminds me of Microsoft when Ballmer was in charge

And I fukked with The Irishman heavy. So Im not against them throwing money at good projects. Even tho shyt was a lil wild with the de-aging shyt
 

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Yo.

QT is a fraud. Another person helped write Pulp Fiction and all his early shyt. QT just erased dudes name off the credits.

Him and his partner both got an Oscar for PF. QT spoke for like 5 min. Dude said one sentence after QT finished.
Avery contributed by far the worst chapter/portion of Pulp Fiction


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Is The Irishman considered a streaming movie? I did see it in theatres but I think that movie is better fewer at your home with the ability to pause.
 

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QT like other Directors and Writers with this strike going on realize that the golden years of the Theater are now over. The money they use to make isn't happening anymore. But let's be clear, streaming is nothing more than "Straight to Video". What's happening is the Theatrical window has shrunk. Movies used to be in the theater for 6-9 months in the past. Now it's 1-3 months now. "Straight to video" was a huge market in the video stores in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Ton of actors used to get clowned for "Straight to Video" movies back in the day but they were making money and people were watching the movies just renting them. This is about money period. You had Five Revenue Streams for movies previously:

*Theatrical
*Home Video (Beta Max/VHS/Laser Disc/DVD/Blu-Ray)
*Rental (Blockbuster, Mom and Pop, Hollywood Video and eventually netflix)
*Television Rights
*Video on Demand/HBO Cable Rights

So these Directors and filmmakers are losing millions now that you've eliminated some of these revenue streams. As someone mentioned, the same thing happen in Music losing CD's and Cassettes once Napster blew up. You still have VOD but it doesn't make as much as it used to. Now Video Rentals have turned into Rental Boxes at Grocery Stores and 7-Elevens. But those boxes do not move the units Blockbuster and Hollywood video use to. I did a thread back in the day that Theaters were headed to being obsolete due to Streaming. That was in 2013. At that time I had been streaming my Football games for years. I was tired NFL Sunday Ticket always going out because of bad weather so I stopped and started streaming sports.

My Friends thought I was weird at the time because the streams use to drop out when they'd watch it over my crib. Little did they know, I was way ahead of the market as everyone streams their spots now. Here we are 10 years later and its' only accelerated even more. I still stand by my view that by 2030 most people will be watching their movies, television and other entertainment on streaming. I personally haven't had Cable in over a decade. I watch all my entertainment on the computer. I used to have Direct TV but finally let that go years ago. Box Office numbers have not stabilized at all. For every "No way Home" or "Avatar 2" you have countless low performers.

The Theater experience is not what it used to be in the 80's and 90's. Shoot even the 2000's was still strong. From 2010 till now it's gradually been in the decline. You've seen all these big box office numbers because Overseas theaters have expanded. Once you pull back the ticket sales you realize movies aren't even selling what they did in the 90's. Going to the movies on a Friday night is no longer the priority it used to be. Going to the movies was a huge Date Night. After you would go to a Restaurant and eat or eat before the movie. It connected to so many other things even going to Blockbuster to get a movie on a Friday Night. Sure it still happens but not on the level it used to. My thing is most entertainment I watched growing up was on my Home Television. This idea that everything "HAS" to be watched on the Big Screen is B.S. Most of the things we watched was at Home. Theater was a luxury and not something my Parents did every weekend. When we went it was a big deal and always fun. When I got to high school and could buy my own tickets I started going more on my own. The Bottom line, it's over. Streaming isn't going anywhere.
 
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Directors are starting to sound like the people that hated on computers in the 90s.

Just old men refusing to adapt to the times.
 

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I love Tarantino and I get where he's coming from but he over romanticizes the concept of the old "movie star."

I know that's part of his passion. It's why he used his films to breathe new life in a number of washed movie stars careers.

That's the thing though. He criticized superhero movies before saying people are going to see the characters themselves and not the actors.

That they were what ruined the idea of movie stars.

The mystique. I think he's incorrect. I do believe that Hollywood has been stripped of his mystique. Not because of comic book movies but because of social media. An unprecedented amount of access exists now making celebrities painfully human and flawed.

No longer larger than life.


You can't tell me that Marvel didn't turn Robert Downey Jr into a full fledged movie star. That's just one example. Not to mention the plethora of well established talent and movie stars that have starred in those pictures.

From Robert Redford to Anthony Hopkins to Sly Stone to Angela Basset to his buddies Sam Jackson and Kurt Russel, and so forth.

They do the same thing with the long establish movie veterans/movie stars that he does. Who really has Tarantino films turn into a movie star?

Uma?

Tim Roth and Micheal Madsen as much as I love them don't fit the bill. Whats interesting about Tarantino films is that after Pulp Fiction, people primarily saw Taratino films because of him. Tarantino. He was ultimately their biggest star.

If that first Iron Man movie failed or performed subpar the MCU wouldn't became a culture phenomenon.

And culture phenomenons are what inform the zeitgeist. Streaming is still in its infant stage. If anything its rewriting the Zeitgeist and as it matures it'll have a more pronounced role im popular culture.

The reason he doesnt think it's in the zeitgeist is because he doesn't participate.

He's not going to. He's doing one more and thats it. That video store clerk inside him is very much alive. He's going to watch the movies he thinks got it right from the eras he thought were best in the one way he feels all movies should be viewed. All isolated from the tides of modern culture.

Ultimately, he's one of the greatest ever and has left a unique legacy. He's falling out of love with his wife and yearns for the days where he first met her.

In its way, it's fitting as his style of movie making helped to define an era now gone. It's the way of the dinosaur. If he wants to retire with a swan song with the last of what he identifies as movie magic, he's earned that right.

I just think his comments are inaccurate and he's feeling the effects of self exile. Just because the people he keeps in his circle and the personal movie nerd club he curates feels unaffected by it all doesn't make him correct.

It makes him out of touch.
What's hilarious is I think deep down Tarantino knows he's the star of all his movies but he'd never say it out loud:mjlol:
 

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I do get a feeling of peeking into a parallel universe, whenever I come across a movie on Netflix, I never heard of, starring a famous actor.

" :dwillhuh: "
 

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fukk this black culture thief misappropriation artist.

All this is an excuse
To cover up his emasculated of rhe black Visage as soon as he developed enough cache. To showcase his endgame. Of misappropriation of everything associated with being black in favor of the golden boi of Hollywood.

Eternally fukk Tarantino.
fukk'n goofie spent his days shyt'n on topgun and questioning heterosexuality in top gun. Yet when he got the chance to. Emasculated black men openly with no issue or problem.

Again fukk Tarantino.




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