Putin calling for 300,000 reservist cause Ukraine kicking that @$$. This is after being rebuked by their only real ally left, India

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They still control 20 percent of Ukraine, until Ukraine push into Russia and take some of their land, they are losing the war and are on the defensive, you can't have an occupying force within your borders and be winning anything you believing the propaganda

If they were getting beat this bad, the war would be over
Ukraine doesn’t want their land. That’s the stupidity of the whole thing.

Ukraine ” the world’s breadbasket” with access to the sea is going to waste resources and soldiers on landlocked frozen tundra? Russia could walk back behind their borders and end this tomorrow.
 

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A speech putin himself gave is "not the most accurate" now :dead:

yall a trip :russ:

Ain't you the one defending R Kelly? :patrice:

So you have no idea about what I am referring to yet felt the need to respond....And then saying I defend R Kelly because I can acknowledge when something looks shady. I Definitely know you certainly vote democratic. Conduct a little research.
 

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Ukraine ” the world’s breadbasket” with access to the sea is going to waste resources and soldiers on landlocked frozen tundra?
before 2014, donbas and zaporizhzhya had the highest industrial output in ukraine, and donetsk was also up there for agricultural production and overall gdp

russia's mostly ignored them, during occupation they've represented a small portion of russia's output in the same categories
 

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before 2014, donbas and zaporizhzhya had the highest industrial output in ukraine, and donetsk was also up there for agricultural production and overall gdp

russia's mostly ignored them, during occupation they've represented a small portion of russia's output in the same categories
Sanctions and they need safe, secure ways to transport the agriculture.

Ukrainian farmers said Russia was just stealing the grains and taking it back to Russia, probably to keep food prices down and limit revolts.
 

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Their failings are not due to lack of military arsenal. Just heart.

The Russians didn't want to fight for the most part. This is not a popular enemy or engagement. Their troops are flaking. In war there is always a difference in effort when the fighting priority isn't the same on both sides.
They don't get it

Even in Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans were PISSED after 9/11

America hadn't had its snot boxed rocked at home since Pearl Harbor

SOMEBODY had to get touched for it and that's why for a long while, the country was like fukk IT...blast the whole Middle East away

But after the US got Saddam and murked Bin Laden, Americans said fukk it, lets pack it up and go home

There was NEVER a point where the Russians wanted to fight the Ukrainians or take their land in the first place
 
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The Ukrainian military is simply superior in every sense.

They're clearly far from stupid and will be waiting for those reservists and lay waste to them as they have every other trooper Putin threw at them.
This would be like the 3rd or 4th wave of reinforcements Putin has deployed. An indication of getting your ass beat.
Its so bad he's scraping the bottom of the barrel for soldiers and just pulling dudes off the street.
This is nothing more than an ego and reclamation of putins pride exercise.

It doesn't change the fact that a foreign military is occupying their country, if they were superior they wouldn't be the case, they are losing the war until Russia is no longer in Ukraine

if the war ended today, part of Ukraine would be Russia, how is that winnning
 

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It doesn't change the fact that a foreign military is occupying their country, if they were superior they wouldn't be the case, they are losing the war until Russia is no longer in Ukraine

if the war ended today, part of Ukraine would be Russia, how is that winnning
You are not making any sense. A lager military entering another country will always get land. I could have told you that before the war started.
 
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Ukraine doesn’t want their land. That’s the stupidity of the whole thing.

Ukraine ” the world’s breadbasket” with access to the sea is going to waste resources and soldiers on landlocked frozen tundra? Russia could walk back behind their borders and end this tomorrow.

Yes but in order to defeat Russia they have to over take Russia

Russia didn't want any of the Germans lands or the Koreas, they still conquered those lands planted their flag, then when the war was over the closed all their bases and went home

the US stayed
 

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i’m honestly baffled because Ukraine isn’t some geographical nightmare with swamps like Vietnam or mountains like Afghanistan. I learned that Ukraine is mostly farmland and supplies a lot of wheat for an export.

I thought Russia would just roll thru especially with sheer manpower. I did believe that when Russia took hold of the major cities, that there will be some underground sporadic resistance for a while
 

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Yes but in order to defeat Russia they have to over take Russia

Russia didn't want any of the Germans lands or the Koreas, they still conquered those lands planted their flag, then when the war was over the closed all their bases and went home

the US stayed
No they don’t. What are you talking about?

There was no German government, And Soviets stayed after WW2 for decades In east Germany.

Ukraine still exist because Russia failed to beat them Into submission. Ukraine wants Crimea and to get them back across the border. They don’t gain anything by adding millions of Russian mouths to their population to feed.


edit: I was uninformed about the Russians in Koreas so I didn’t want to say anything but after a quick study. The Soviets were in Koreas for a reason. They wanted their warm winter port access and to avenge the loss of the Sino-Japanese war. You’re completely wrong.
 
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i’m honestly baffled because Ukraine isn’t some geographical nightmare with swamps like Vietnam or mountains like Afghanistan. I learned that Ukraine is mostly farmland and supplies a lot of wheat for an export.

I thought Russia would just roll thru especially with sheer manpower.
to be fair to Russia, if they were just going to level cities to ash they would have.

Russia was trying to install a puppet government was the problem. They needed the population and infrastructure intact.
 
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