This is where I am, from a take them serious standpoint, at this point they're all just sex toys with varying difficulties of access
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This is where I am, from a take them serious standpoint, at this point they're all just sex toys with varying difficulties of access
SheWantTheD
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Why do you say that/feel this way?
This thread is about a man who IS oriented towards traditionalism being forced/tricked into baby daddyism
change the child support laws to be more in favor with men, and a lot of this shyt will be cleaned up overnight.
If she figured out it wasn’t for her and confronted that instead of lying to herself and him and potentially having more fukkery down the line, that’s the mature thing to do.This thread is about a man who IS oriented towards traditionalism being forced/tricked into baby daddyism
Holding someone hostage in a relationship, when she ain’t feeling him isn’t the move. That energy seeps into every part of the family dynamic. Kids see that shyt and it can be just as traumatizing as any other set up.
She literally mentioned how similar dynamics she saw with her mom influenced her away from those traditions in her own life. We can’t keep glossing over these issues that are apart of traditions to make squares fit into round pegs. That doesn’t mean that we have to demonize all traditional marriages and just automatically endorse nothing but single parenthood. (Because that’s stupid too.)
But…BUT…I also think we need to be honest that not every marriage is the best environment to raise a child in either.
I’d rather have a child raised in a healthy single parent environment, than an unhealthy, unhappy, miserable two-parent environment if those are the two options in the scenario. Especially when both adults can co-parent maturely and still be apart of their child’s life. I’m not talking about endorsing toxic baby mama/daddy drama single parenthood b/c that’s not the only set up there is.
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We all know that ain’t happening.
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Not sure what that has to do with anything. I’ve never taken my son’s father to court or pursued a case seeking child support. Everything we do as far as that goes, is handled between me and him, without involving the government.
child support is meant to favor the child and whichever parent the child is with the majority of the time because that child is being taken care of by that parent. It just so happens that the majority of the time the woman is a primary caretaker. If you want child support in the man’s favor, encourage more men to seek joint or full custody, or to maintain a peaceful coparenting relationship with the woman he impregnated so that they can negotiate a fair monthly amount.
i wasn't talking about your specific situation. Just in general. A lot of this stuff would be cleared up overnight if women knew child support wouldn't just bail them out. And what we're learning more and more each day is it's the women leaving these relationships, but we've been fed the narrative that men leave these women and men didn't want to get married.
While I feel this is a rather obvious question, if I'm being succinct, biology and personal experience.
I'm Gen Z, so as a boy into teen adolescence, school/media/adults hammered home women were equal if not better. Being a logical, critical thinking pragmatist, you'd think equal would amount to same thought processes, goals, needs, etc. but once you actually get to deal with women in work/school/personal spaces you find biological differences between men and women make equality functionally impossible between the two. This initial lie set an expectation which women had no shot of meeting. Add in the more traditional tropes on women "fairer sex", "mature faster", "nicer, kinder", etc. that also in actuality proved to be largely bullshyt as well, you have 2 major let downs relative to the expectations society gives you on what women are. You put the feminist icing on the cake, and add the sprinkles of #metoo, divorce law, and male simps/feminist, and frankly you lose interest in dealing with women altogether on personality/human basis. All there is a series of presenting an image that will draw her in entertaining her/holding her suspense long enough for her to let you fukk, before she realizes that you aren't what she perceived and she gets bored.
I run the EXACT same game on women with small variations/tweaks and it has a high yield rate 60-70%. The funny thing is it works on all different ages, races and personality types of women. I just don't care to approach anymore. I only knock down what chooses/makes itself available, while simultaneously meeting my aesthetic standards. When you realize that every time you like a woman for what you perceive her personality to be, she either doesn't have mutual feelings, or she ends up leaving/ghosting/dubbing, a logical mind will come to the conclusion you can't be out here loving a modern woman, you just keep her around if want a spouse/family, but you make sure she like you more than you do her, and you keep her more as an accessory, than a partner.
Just like the true nature of women not being something you are taught, but something you have to figure through experience, the bolded is the true nature of the lion share of relationships, and this is also something you aren't taught, but have to learn through experience. I've realized dealing with a women in a non sexual sense is a world of illusion (word to @Ghost Utmost ). It's not too hard to navigate once you understand the game and the rules, but for me at this point if I can't be my true authentic self, idiosyncrasies and all around a woman, there's no point in considering her for anything outside of sex.
To put it simply I don't believe in the fairytale of women and love anymore.
I'm not even mad at women for it, if anything it'd would have been nice if someone dropped the real earlier so I could have maneuvered more efficiently earlier.
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Mindfield333
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Has anyone seen statistics that differentiate between divorcees and parents that were never married? When up comes to black folks it seem like they put them in the same categoryThis thread is about a man who IS oriented towards traditionalism being forced/tricked into baby daddyism
