Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Its some feminine shyt to label any kind of criticism of someone else as being a hater breh. shyt isnt even an argument.
It's not criticism, though. it's blind, irrational, and biased viewpoints that aren't targeted on any other player. Which is being a hater.

You got people in here who literally watched a man get his arm pulled on purpose and they're still blaming him for something. If that was any other superstar or Porzingis for that matter, it's outrage about a no call. Since its Melo its the same old "trade him" "he's a ball hog" blah blah blah
 

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I almost hope Melo does get traded so you see just how worse off the Knicks will be. Celtics are forever middle of the road after trading pierce for picks, nuggets haven't recovered from Melo being traded. The Grizzlies wish they had Rudy Gay right now.

It's a failed strategy that stat geeks like to think works but in reality it never does.
 
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It's not criticism, though. it's blind, irrational, and biased viewpoints that aren't targeted on any other player. Which is being a hater.

You got people in here who literally watched a man get his arm pulled on purpose and they're still blaming him for something. If that was any other superstar or Porzingis for that matter, it's outrage about a no call. Since its Melo its the same old "trade him" "he's a ball hog" blah blah blah
The star player on a team is going to get the majority of the criticism when the team isnt performing well. This shyt happens across every sport. Why you're acting like this is a special case of hating on melo is fukking bizarre to me.

While he was clearly fouled, the frustration seems to me to come from his continued inability to get in done in clutch situations in the passed several years. That 1-19 stat posted in here earlier is just :scust:. When you have people in here irrationally putting melo in the category of lebron, durant, etc when the results have clearly not been there since hes become a Knick, then its only natural that you hear the other side of that coin. It goes both ways.
 

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i blame fisher for that garbage ass play at the end :yeshrug:
KP played better defense on Boogie than 54 Million dollar Robin Lopez

Let's be honest though, Afflalo missed 2 good looks down the stretch. One from the top of the key and the other from the side. He can't miss those shots. He simply cannot.

Edit: Also, Melo and Porzingis missed 3 free throws down the stretch. In my opinion, before I start putting blame on that last 3pt heave, I have to blame them for missing those free throws.
 

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It's was established that because Melo was playing crazy minutes carrying the team with no 2nd option, he had been exhausted in the 4th quarter.

That stat means Little more than being out of gas.
It's because melo takes shytty shots in the clutch now. He used to drive, now guys know he's shooting a one dribble pullup no matter what
 

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http://nypost.com/2015/12/11/knicks-derrick-williams-doesnt-know-why-fisher-benches-him/

Come on man, these guys that are getting inconsistent minutes loads and keep looking hesitant and confused out there...if Fish isn't directing them and telling them what they're doing wrong, they're only gonna look more confused and hesitant. It's no wonder the bench regressed and that suddenly the atmosphere is getting bad. This dude is straight making media cries for help smdh. Fisher's got a lot of learning to do, but this is an important one, he needs better communication with some of these cats.

“I haven’t talked to [Fisher] about it,’’ Williams said Wednesday. “It’s his choice. I can’t really argue with the coach’s decisions, minutes and things like that. It comes from the coaching staff. I try whenever I’m in the game, I try to make an impact. That’s the only thing I can do.’’

Williams found his situation in Sacramento wobbly last season, playing for three coaches — Mike Malone, Tyrone Corbin and George Karl. Karl knocked Williams in the press once, chiding him for grabbing zero rebounds in a 20-minute stint. But Williams feels Karl improved him.

“He’s a good coach,’’ Williams said. “He wasn’t really tough like that. That was one game. He expects a lot of things out of me. I think that’s always good, when you have a coach that really expects things out of you, wants to bring out the best in you. Myself and him, we talked about it. It was no hard feelings with the quotes. That happens when a coach expects a lot of you. At the end of the day, he wasn’t too, too hard on me. He wanted the best out of me.

“He’s a great guy. I really thrived under him.’’


Williams said he would talk to Karl — which would be more than he talked to Fisher. Williams has the same agent as Fisher (Rob Pelinka) but doesn’t seem to have a communication flow.
After the season, Williams didn’t speak with Sacramento, holding interviews with Dallas, the Knicks and Washington.
 

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http://nypost.com/2015/12/11/knicks-derrick-williams-doesnt-know-why-fisher-benches-him/

Come on man, these guys that are getting inconsistent minutes loads and keep looking hesitant and confused out there...if Fish isn't directing them and telling them what they're doing wrong, they're only gonna look more confused and hesitant. It's no wonder the bench regressed and that suddenly the atmosphere is getting bad. This dude is straight making media cries for help smdh. Fisher's got a lot of learning to do, but this is an important one, he needs better communication with some of these cats.

Looks like things are going to get worse before they get better, sigh.....
 

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http://nypost.com/2015/12/11/knicks-derrick-williams-doesnt-know-why-fisher-benches-him/

Come on man, these guys that are getting inconsistent minutes loads and keep looking hesitant and confused out there...if Fish isn't directing them and telling them what they're doing wrong, they're only gonna look more confused and hesitant. It's no wonder the bench regressed and that suddenly the atmosphere is getting bad. This dude is straight making media cries for help smdh. Fisher's got a lot of learning to do, but this is an important one, he needs better communication with some of these cats.
we always hire coaches with communication problems for some reason (isiah thomas, mike woodson, dantoni fisher)
this isnt house league
you gotta deal with these guys like men
 

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