Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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You guys come up with a season thread yet? I liked the bigger donks, bigger expectations idea from last year. But it needs to be updated...

Bigger Donks, Bigger Expectations, and Bigger Orgies: 2016-17 New York Knicks Season Thread
 

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3. That's just your opinion. That's why they're GMs and your just a fan.

Then why discuss sports at all? You aren't a player or a gm -- what do you know?


I hate to break it to you, but as somebody who has worked for both college and NBA teams and coaches... these guys aren't all geniuses, and they're not all super knowledgeable about the game. Some people end up working their way to a promotion just like anybody in any other field. Relationships, charm, cronyism, politics, and just sticking around until other guys get fired.

Billy King the poster boy for this. Dude wants to run for Senate or Governor. Steve Mills was working in properties and special events, and got the title of VP of development tossed to him.

There are really only 6-8 front offices/GM's doing anything truly next-level, or functioning on a really creative level. This knicks FO doesn't even understand how to sign their own undrafted picks/players in order to maintain cheap control for a couple of years. That's how we lost galloway.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the fact that a GM or front office did something, they were right. A team tried to illegally sign Joe Smith. :manny:
 

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Then why discuss sports at all? You aren't a player or a gm -- what do you know?


I hate to break it to you, but as somebody who has worked for both college and NBA teams and coaches... these guys aren't all geniuses, and they're not all super knowledgeable about the game. Some people end up working their way to a promotion just like anybody in any other field. Relationships, charm, cronyism, politics, and just sticking around until other guys get fired.

Billy King the poster boy for this. Dude wants to run for Senate or Governor. Steve Mills was working in properties and special events, and got the title of VP of development tossed to him.

There are really only 6-8 front offices/GM's doing anything truly next-level, or functioning on a really creative level. This knicks FO doesn't even understand how to sign their own undrafted picks/players in order to maintain cheap control for a couple of years. That's how we lost galloway.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the fact that a GM or front office did something, they were right. A team tried to illegally sign Joe Smith. :manny:
Wow... you took that comment and ran with it. Furthermore, I said immediately after that statement that I wouldn't fault him for that opinion. My point in saying that was that it's really just a difference in philosophy... and as fans we don't have any say in philosophy, only who we think would fit best in whatever philosophy the team has chosen. Only a GM can change that at any given time. And if you start making suggestions that don't even fit the assumed philosophy of your team, then asking your question DOES make sense. Why even talk about sports if you're not even going to stay within the parameters of reality. If your team is the Knicks and you hope they're Portland, you're never going to happy with your team... because they'll never be Portland.

At some point you either have to just go with the flow and recognize the progress in your team based on the philosophy they've chosen... or just stop being a fan. Why complain that they're not doing in your way EVERY YEAR?
 

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You guys come up with a season thread yet? I liked the bigger donks, bigger expectations idea from last year. But it needs to be updated...

Bigger Donks, Bigger Expectations, and Bigger Orgies: 2016-17 New York Knicks Season Thread


Whats wrong with you pal, too homophobic to acknowledge the great physiques and horse like lower extremities of our Knicks team?

Im going to kidnap you, tie you up and bring you to one of Derick Rose's orgies :mjlol:


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Then why discuss sports at all? You aren't a player or a gm -- what do you know?


I hate to break it to you, but as somebody who has worked for both college and NBA teams and coaches... these guys aren't all geniuses, and they're not all super knowledgeable about the game. Some people end up working their way to a promotion just like anybody in any other field. Relationships, charm, cronyism, politics, and just sticking around until other guys get fired.

Billy King the poster boy for this. Dude wants to run for Senate or Governor. Steve Mills was working in properties and special events, and got the title of VP of development tossed to him.

There are really only 6-8 front offices/GM's doing anything truly next-level, or functioning on a really creative level. This knicks FO doesn't even understand how to sign their own undrafted picks/players in order to maintain cheap control for a couple of years. That's how we lost galloway.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the fact that a GM or front office did something, they were right. A team tried to illegally sign Joe Smith. :manny:

Dolan's always been about the name first and the easiest way to do it is by writing the check. The Knicks FO just doesnt put in the same work as some of the other top tier franchises do. No different in baseball or football either. Cubs, Pats, Seahawks etc...it's adapt or die.
 

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Joakim Noah dead ass sounds like Turtle from Entourage, homie NY accent is brolic :russ:

I just saw all of KP's FG's, videos is long AF but I couldn't stop watching. This guys skill level is ridiculous. Ball handling at 7'3, shimmys/up and unders/shakes in the post, alley oops, banks shots in on face ups, hooks, post fades, curls, pick and pops, pin downs, running off screens, put back dunks, effortless jumper with limitless range.

Lord, he looks so much stronger if he makes that second year leap we could be forreal :damn:
 
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If your team is the Knicks and you hope they're Portland, you're never going to happy with your team... because they'll never be Portland.

At some point you either have to just go with the flow and recognize the progress in your team based on the philosophy they've chosen... or just stop being a fan. Why complain that they're not doing in your way EVERY YEAR?

He doesn't want to be portland.

He said they should do something similar to what portland did. Try to find value in young free agents with upside.

I would like the team to get up and down more, and stop shooting mid-range jumpers -- a la what the Warriors do -- but I do not want to be the warriors, because warriors fans are a gang of lames.

You can root for a team, and want them to get better.

To the bolded, that's childish. I don't pray to a team like they're the most high. I root for them, and I root for them to get better. And just as I'd like the product on the court to be better, I'd like the coaching to be better, and I'd like the front office to be better.

The idea of supporting everything a team does is silly, and I'm surprised anybody with the wherewithal seeking out a message board to talk to other fans would espouse an idea like that.
 
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