Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Watching those videos I can see Melo's influence on his game:salute:

Especially when he iso's and then just goes up for the face up shot:jbhmm:

If he was smaller I don't think he could just do that but the PorzinGAWD is tall as fukk:blessed:
Melo's a great teacher he was schooling Blake on Team USA...
 

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He doesn't want to be portland.

He said they should do something similar to what portland did. Try to find value in young free agents with upside.

I would like the team to get up and down more, and stop shooting mid-range jumpers -- a la what the Warriors do -- but I do not want to be the warriors, because warriors fans are a gang of lames.

You can root for a team, and want them to get better.

To the bolded, that's childish. I don't pray to a team like they're the most high. I root for them, and I root for them to get better. And just as I'd like the product on the court to be better, I'd like the coaching to be better, and I'd like the front office to be better.

The idea of supporting everything a team does is silly, and I'm surprised anybody with the wherewithal seeking out a message board to talk to other fans would espouse an idea like that.
My goodness dude... you take one sentence out of everything I say and just run with it. I know he doesn't literally want them to be Portland, lol. Is that really what you think I meant?

My point is... Portland has chosen one philosophy (which hasn't won them anything, by the way... and they still probably won't win anything in the near future)... the Knicks have chosen a different philosophy, which has been in progress really for about 2 1/2 years now. At some point you have to concede that your team isn't doing it how Portland is trying to do it and judge them based on the philosophy they've chosen. Discuss whether their moves might work for what they've already said they're trying to do and whether it wil hurt them in the long-term

Complaining about their philosophy year after year is pointless. Put it this way... the way they've done things as of late have people predicting that Westbrook would actually want to sign here next year... and of he did want to, the Knicks would actually be in a position to do it.

In my opinion, that's productive fan talk... not complaining that Knicks haven't blown it up 3 years in a row or complaining about Carmelo's contract 3 years in a row.

Edit: you also implied i said things that I didn't. I didnt say support everything they do. And by philosophy, I'm referring to how they've chosen to build the team, not how they play on the court. Play on the court is a lot more fluid than building a roster. You could try to change style of play tomorrow if you want to. You could fire and hire a coach tomorrow if you want. You're arguing things and defending points I didn't even bring up.
 
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Good stuff and I think KP is on his rookie contract to 2019. If Melo opts out they can chase somebody else prior to that in 2018. One thing Phil has done a damn good job of is kicking that max money down the road with 1+1 deals. I think the plan is to get to a point when the rest of the league is cash strapped so having Max space becomes a game changer again.

Also I got to continue to say this. Injury history or not if Rose puts on a great show I see the Knicks keeping him on a 20 Mil deal in order to try and squeeze in another Max cat like Hayward. If Rose falls apart obviously Westbrook is the choice, but Phil hasn't made an obvious choice yet. Also D-Rose is highly respected, I can't see Phil ditching him if he leads the team on a deep playoff run.

Don't forget about Rose's cap hold
 

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I still do for some picks:mjpls:

We got a good team but we could be building for the future like a lot of other teams.

No. What I meant was, that their were posters in this thread who tried to downplay Melo's positive effect on KP's game even when KP himself admitted that Melo made the game easier for him, and that he wanted him around.
 

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That hair pin trigga KP has :whew:

Still can't believe he ain't drop a 30 piece yet

He looks like a SF anywhere on the court except the paint. He gets around that rim, thats when he looks all 7'3 :ohhh:
He almost did when he was chasing Pats record but these motherfukkers refused to pass him the rock :scust:Dude put 29/15 27/12 and all types of shyt but nikkas would straight up phase him out:dwillhuh:
 
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