Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Malta]

no...he's our center for this season and maybe next season....anything beyond that is up to KP's development

You don't sign Noah to a 4 year deal to bring him off the bench.

If your goal is to turn Kristaps into a C in the next 2 years, you don't sign Noah, you keep caproom for next year because Blake, Ibaka and Millsap will be free agents, you know....power forwards.

 

[Trip]

Porzingis has no business playing center right now anyways

 

[ZackMorris]

Don't have any idea who he is.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Don't have any idea who he is.

Who?

 

[DPresidential]

Don't have any idea who he is.

@I.V. should be able to tell us who he is.



That first drive and bang, though.

Definitely not soft.

 

[Derek Lee]

Once again, we won't need him to be an offensive threat in the sense of scoring....we need him to be a threat with his PASSING. We also need him to rebound and last season in less minutes Noah outrebounded Biyombo in Offensive boards and overall. Biyombo may be the better defender but it's not by a whole lot. Biyombo's ability to score around the rim is moot because we don't want him down there anyway unless it's to clean up the boards

If you say so.

 

[storyteller]

Knicks just signed a back-up SF out of Europe who I don't know. Mindaugas Kuzminkas...Lithuanian.

 

[RickyGQ]

Noah IS an offensive liability, they ran offense through Noah because they had to, because Rose was always injured and their PGs were straight garbage. What happened is that it was pretty successful when he could finish at the rim, but eventually teams just backed off him and played him for the drive and he couldn't finish at the rim, to the point he's been shooting sub 50% at the rim the last two seasons which is about 20% lower than what a big should shoot at the rim.

All that's saying is that running an offense through Noah alone shouldn't be our top priority. Doesn't mean he's incapable which is what a liability is. No matter how bad things are going for the Bulls, they wouldn't dare run the offense through a Tyson Chandler for example.
There I no real scenario on this team where Noah is gonna be the focal point of the offense. He's at best our fifth option and at worst our third.

 

[ISO]

hope this Euro cac can play

 

[Malta]

Once again, we won't need him to be an offensive threat in the sense of scoring....we need him to be a threat with his PASSING. We also need him to rebound and last season in less minutes Noah outrebounded Biyombo in Offensive boards and overall. Biyombo may be the better defender but it's not by a whole lot. Biyombo's ability to score around the rim is moot because we don't want him down there anyway unless it's to clean up the boards

Biyombo is on a completely different level as a rim protector, and I don't think you realize just how bad Noah has been at finishing at the rim, he was worse than Ricky Rubio last year.


Rim protection -

Put it like this, the gap between them at rim protection is bigger than the gap between Noah and Kevin Love


Biyombo is better by more than just a "whole lot", he was an elite interior defender last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.

 

[Derek Lee]

Baker :hface:
Van Vleet was undrafted, too

 

[Malta]

All that's saying is that running an offense through Noah alone shouldn't be our top priority. Doesn't mean he's incapable which is what a liability is. No matter how bad things are going for the Bulls, they wouldn't dare run the offense through a Tyson Chandler for example.
There I no real scenario on this team where Noah is gonna be the focal point of the offense. He's at best our fifth option and at worst our third.

He cannot finish at the rim, regardless of whether or not offense is going through him, a center that can't finish at the rim is a liability. Drop offs to him become contested and he just misses what should be an easy two, he's not going up and over people.


That is one thing they are expected to do at the very least, and he's never been good at it and has been absolutely terrible at it the last two years.

 

[ISO]

Biyombo is on a completely different level as a rim protector, and I don't think you realize just how bad Noah has been at finishing at the rim, he was worse than Ricky Rubio last year.


Rim protection -

Put it like this, the gap between them at rim protection is bigger than the gap between Noah and Kevin Love


Biyombo is better by more than just a "whole lot", he was an elite interior defender last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.

Noah is an overall better defender than Biyombo though

 

[storyteller]

Mindaugas Kuzminskas Hopes for Shot at NBA | Basketball Insiders | NBA Rumors And Basketball News

Scorer who looks like he's a north south player in lil clips I seen...maybe an attempt to replace D-Will on the cheap? Idk. If we're goin' Euro, Nando De Colo would be cool. Summer league, I saw a cat on Orlando that grabbed my attention, Garino.

 

[GhostoftheMan]

Biyombo is on a completely different level as a rim protector, and I don't think you realize just how bad Noah has been at finishing at the rim, he was worse than Ricky Rubio last year.


Rim protection -

Put it like this, the gap between them at rim protection is bigger than the gap between Noah and Kevin Love


Biyombo is better by more than just a "whole lot"

noah only play 29 games last season vs 82 games biyombo. noah is better than biyombo if he's healthy