Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread
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What is everyone freaking out in this thread about right now?
Walton was never going to have any kind of real conversation about a job while the team is on a playoff run.
We know the Knicks are not that talented right now, and need more young good players. KP is a potential young star. Galloway and Grant are young, potentially useful guards. O'Quinn is a useful rotation forward and 26, Derrick Williams was a surprisingly useful player, he's 24, and our best signing is Lopez at 28.
Considering how old, overpaid, and broken the team was 2 years ago... this is an alright place to be. But they're just not very good.
Next year we'll get Hernangomez, who's another solid forward, and will be 22. I'm sure we'll try to steal a draft pick for cash this year (phil's done it a few times) somewhere near the beginning of the second round. And we'll take a look at free agents/RFA's. I know they've also been looking around at some international free agents as well.
The first order of business is to sign a good coach. Walton was not going to sign or agree to the job during the season. So we wait. He's out there. Thibs is out there (maybe minny blows it?), Blatt is out there... there are useful and talented coaches out there that can help this team. Let's wait to see what happens this offseason before your freak out.
It's like all of you just finally realized what I was trying to explain to you LAST summer. Freaking out that phil hasn't fixed this dumpster fire in 2 short years is silly. He drafted a potential star, he has flexibility to flip melo this offseason if melo doesn't want to be around for the rebuild. Or he can add a decent piece, and maybe have a outside shot at a playoff spot next year.
Or they'll tank, and take on another high pick. Honestly... that'd be okay too. KP could use a running mate. Josh Jackson, Fultz, Tatum... there's talent out there.
Enjoy watching truly talented teams in the playoffs... then let's worry about the coach and the roster. Most of these new york writers right now are desperate to write about anything. This is their slow season. .
Walton was never going to have any kind of real conversation about a job while the team is on a playoff run.
We know the Knicks are not that talented right now, and need more young good players. KP is a potential young star. Galloway and Grant are young, potentially useful guards. O'Quinn is a useful rotation forward and 26, Derrick Williams was a surprisingly useful player, he's 24, and our best signing is Lopez at 28.
Considering how old, overpaid, and broken the team was 2 years ago... this is an alright place to be. But they're just not very good.
Next year we'll get Hernangomez, who's another solid forward, and will be 22. I'm sure we'll try to steal a draft pick for cash this year (phil's done it a few times) somewhere near the beginning of the second round. And we'll take a look at free agents/RFA's. I know they've also been looking around at some international free agents as well.
The first order of business is to sign a good coach. Walton was not going to sign or agree to the job during the season. So we wait. He's out there. Thibs is out there (maybe minny blows it?), Blatt is out there... there are useful and talented coaches out there that can help this team. Let's wait to see what happens this offseason before your freak out.
It's like all of you just finally realized what I was trying to explain to you LAST summer. Freaking out that phil hasn't fixed this dumpster fire in 2 short years is silly. He drafted a potential star, he has flexibility to flip melo this offseason if melo doesn't want to be around for the rebuild. Or he can add a decent piece, and maybe have a outside shot at a playoff spot next year.
Or they'll tank, and take on another high pick. Honestly... that'd be okay too. KP could use a running mate. Josh Jackson, Fultz, Tatum... there's talent out there.
Enjoy watching truly talented teams in the playoffs... then let's worry about the coach and the roster. Most of these new york writers right now are desperate to write about anything. This is their slow season. .
That's harsh. He failed with Fisher but
Porzingis
Flexibility with the cap/Havent over paid
We haven't traded more picks
Grant looking like he turned a corner
Melo still here which goes either way
Isola is increasingly looking bad. No matter the move, hes against it. Honestly don't want fans picking the coach, couldn't give a fukk if Thibs (wouldnt mind but worry for Porzingis) or JVG (not happening).
It's essentially his first big job outside coaching.
It's about to be Summer '16 and dudes still talking about trading Melo
Season hasn't even finished yet and dudes already talking about tanking next season
For the sake of the thread, will ya'll n*ggas PLEASE STFU
Next draft is loaded apparently. The tank talk cant really be discussed until after free agency imo but if we do strike out
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Wargames
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Phil playing the whole NYc sports media in less than 140 characters
It's about to be Summer '16 and dudes still talking about trading Melo
Season hasn't even finished yet and dudes already talking about tanking next season
For the sake of the thread, will ya'll n*ggas PLEASE STFU
Oh I'm sorry I didn't know we had anything else to talk about in a Knicks thread while the playoffs is going on
or the draft
Let me get excited over .... Nope nothing to get excited about until summer league
Wargames
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Now I know why Phil was on the
Thib wants to be the next SVG
Then again maybe he would of been ok just coaching in NY
seemorecizzy
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There's people in here that actually think Phil is doing a good job
storyteller
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There's people in here that actually think Phil is doing a good job
Porzingis and not trading any future picks alone puts him ahead of every Knicks GM this millennium. He's been hit or miss on his moves, but we're lookin' at 30 million in cap space (both FA's with options seem ready to opt out); we have the rest of our firsts going forward; and we have a collection of players at or under 25 who could (and should) develop further. That's enough flexibility in place to give him the benefit of an offseason.
fukk sake. We should have been in there making the first move and instead we're fannying about as usual and will lose out.
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Harleminthe80s
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Especially since Ray is holding them down
Calderon > Felton on what planet
Calderon > Felton on what planet