Psychological Study Finds Cops View Black Children As Older And Less Innocent Than They Are

[The Real]

Again I don't think its racial, but rather a characteristic of youths raised in poor economic conditions.
These youths, while innocent(ill concede that) pose adult threats, and are often far more volatile than adults...

My argument is in the approach of law enforcement itself. If crime is more prevalent in low income areas, is paying extra attention to those areas really that unfathomable or discriminatory?
@acri1 was absolutely correct that this approach creates highly inequitable numbers that further strengthen the approach(and bias) of law enforcement... but is the approach wrong(fundamentally flawed)? and if so how?

You're talking about "youths", but the study specifies that the biased behavior begins with children as young as 10 years old. Are 10 year olds of any sort posing adult threats or being more volatile than adults?

 

[T-K-G]

@DEAD7 i can't overlook this one breh

 

[Everythingg]

But yall think yall still bouta do something in this country? I already got my plan what about you other black people? Yall think this gonna change?

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

It's not just cops who think like this.

Hence the reason why Trayvon was seen as a big scary thug at 17...yet your average 18 year old white male is seen as a kid.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Ron Paul's newsletters already told us this...

“We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”

Ron Paul can eat a f*cking dikk.

i'd say this study is representative of most white men in regards to their perception of black children, not just white cops. it is more problematic for our community that cops have this type of bias since they're given legal power to kill or maim and they always get the benefit of a doubt.
i've said it before and i'll say it again, cops treat every black person as a probable perp or crime in progress regardless of age and situation. even in the most innocuous encounters, when black people are involved, they're more likely to escalate a situation or resort to force than if the exact same scenario happened with a white person.

studies like this just add more proof that cops are trained, conditioned or selected somewhere along the way to treat blacks and minorities different. i will never ever trust a cop or let my guard down around them and that's the same thing i tell all my fam and friends.

Exactly.

Have ya'll ever been pulled over by a cop, a white cop who obviously has never dealt with black people before? Or seen a black person get pulled over for a routine stop and for some reason..it requires 2-5 more police cars at the scene for backup?

They think every black man is a potential criminal. Or a criminal.

"duh....maybe he does ave warrants...scan this n!gger's ID for the 14th time!"

The problem isn't us...it's them. How can you expect to be protected by people who see you essentially as a threat?

 

[DEAD7]

There is nothing civilly justifiable about using disparate and more deadly tactics against people because of their ethnicity. That is cowardice, discrimination and inequitable. The notion that it is "logically sound" to target certain groups is also irrelevant. For it is logically sound to kill all people who commit crime because said people are more likely to commit crime in the future. Yet somehow this isn't the status quo. Why? Because it's civilly unjustifiable.

You contend these practices are based solely on race?
if so, could you explain how the same targeting of poor neighborhoods takes place around the globe in regions where race is not an issue?
I think there may be a little more to it than whites hating blacks... as taboo as that is to say.
The only constant in all instances of this "discrimination" is the socioeconomic condition of the victims...

This isnt to say cops arent racist, just that we cant chalk everything up to whites hating blacks and call it a day. There's often more to it than that...





In the event that you are 100% correct, i agree with you.
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It doesn't matter if crime is more prevalent in certain areas or socioeconomic levels. Since you're a c00n, I'll give you a example you can relate with. Merely because there are poor meth users within a neighborhood doesn't justify cops breaking into people's homes and pointing guns in their faces over meth. It doesn't justify white cops slamming random young men into the ground and stepping on their necks yelling, "Where's the fukking stash? WHERE IS THE fukkING STASH!?!?" Police officers must show restraint and treat everyone the same. That is the basis of fair and equal under the law. Your c00ning is disgusted and well docuemnted as it goes.

I never said the practices were justified or even 'right'. I didn't even reference race...



... and I dont disagree with anything anyone has said in here(except for f*ck ron paul). I'm just asking a question about the soundness of their approach.

 

[DEAD7]

You're talking about "youths", but the study specifies that the biased behavior begins with children as young as 10 years old. Are 10 year olds of any sort posing adult threats or being more volatile than adults?

No, and I agree that's disgusting.

 

[tmonster]

I wouldn't be able to offer even a bullsh*t defense for it. so ima let it go.
I just think there is a loss of innocence within certain demographics.
... and tho deplorable, the approach taken by those in law enforcement is logically sound.

When I interact with actual black children, no matter what nonsense that, on occasion, they may parrot from the media or mantle of machismo or bravado they, on occasion, attempt to don to impress me, I only need be there for more than five minutes before the veneer is lost and their innocence is laid as bare in their words as their physiognomy. I am guessing that my experience is not unique.

What you posted above reads as the equivalence of saying I have never been around a black child in my life or my only experience of black children is through wshh? Is it any wonder that the cat in the other thread was not willing to believe that you share the "black" experience?

 

[mrken12]

This study isn't shocking since the police are nothing but a white supremacist gang but will anything be done to fix this problem?

 

[tmonster]

How black people see black children (the red part for emphasis but I left the whole article since it was well written. Strangely this black writer below sees her black child as a child)

NPR's Michel Martin gives a distinct take on news and issues

• Trayvon Martin Was Afraid, Too
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  March 21, 201210:50 AM
  
  4 min 38 sec
  
  
  
  Trayvon Martin was shot while walking home from a store in a gated neighborhood outside Orlando.
  
  Martin family/AP
  Do you mind if I take a few minutes to tell you about my son? He has three beautiful sisters but right now I'll just tell you about him. He is 8 now and he loves anything that involves dirt, any ball, and running around. He still has deliciously long eyelashes and long musician's fingers; he is learning to play the guitar. He likes to act like he's older than he is — a couple days ago he asked me if I thought his Nerf basketball set was "old school" and if his next babysitter could be "hot"; whatever that means. (The answer to both is no, by the way.) But every so often, thankfully, my husband and I are reminded that he is still a little boy, like a few weeks ago when he was not feeling well and he came into our room at two in the morning clutching his green stuffed bunny. He came in because he was afraid, and I was reminded that, even at 2 a.m., one of the pleasures of being a parent is to be able to comfort your child when he is afraid.
  
  Can I just tell you? That is why if you are a parent — and frankly even if you aren't — you should be able to understand why so many people are so shaken and so hurt about the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida. Shot to death ( on the program) while he was walking home from the store in a neighborhood outside Orlando that he was visiting. Shot because a neighbor, a self-appointed neighborhood watch guy named George Zimmerman, decided the teenager looked suspicious and took it upon himself to follow him.
  
  Now I wasn't there but one thing I do know is that there is already a lot to digest in what we all do know. Like the fact that there had been a series of break-ins in the area, which tends to make people on edge; the fact that the police dispatcher told George Zimmerman to back off and he didn't; and the fact that witnesses have accused the local police of shaping their statements to fit the shooter's defense rather than objectively pursuing the facts.
  
  But what I want to focus on today is something we don't ever seem to talk about: that fact that Trayvon Martin was afraid. Something we know because, according to his family's lawyer, he was on the phone and told the friend he was being followed by a strange man. That friend told him to run. And he did, toward the house where he was staying. But he never made it.
  
  Why does it never seem to occur to anybody that young black men can be afraid? Let's face it — when we think about why crime frightens us, doesn't the person who comes to mind, the person whose victimization we most fear, is probably somebody who looks like our mother, our sister, your wife or girlfriend? But if you think about who is actually most likely to be killed, that victim is far more likely to be a man and far more likely to be a black or brown man.
  
  In 2010, according to the FBI, some 1,800 black people under the age of 22 were murdered. That's 50 percent more than the total number of whites that age who were killed. But it's even more depressing when you consider that blacks are just 13 percent of the population. And yes it is true that the people bringing the pain are most likely to look exactly like the people they are hurting.
  
  Case in point: Over the weekend in Chicago at least 10 people were killed, at least half believed to be in gang-related shootings, including a 6-year-old girl killed in a drive-by. But that is all the more reason why when the innocent suffer, attention must be paid. And also why attention must be paid when the many are forced to wear the cloak of suspicion caused by the acts of the few.
  
  My son is so young now and so innocent, so happy that he can ride his scooter to the new playground down the street. His biggest worry is getting tally marks for forgetting to raise his hand and losing precious minutes of recess. How long will it be before my biggest fear will be having to wait with my heart in my chest every time he walks out the door?

 

[DEAD7]

When I interact with actual black children, no matter what nonsense that, on occasion, they may parrot from the media or mantle of machismo or bravado they, on occasion, attempt to don to impress me, I only need be there for more than five minutes before the veneer is lost and their innocence is laid as bare in their words as their physiognomy. I am guessing that my experience is not unique.

What you posted above reads as the equivalence of saying I have never been around a black child in my life or my only experience of black children is through wshh? Is it any wonder that the cat in the other thread was not willing to believe that you share the "black" experience?

I made no reference to race and/or age.read the post again.
The way some of you immediately jump out the window with this black vs white stuff, is
... and for the record, I agree with you.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

ho shyt he actually said that?

Wait don't we have black guys in here who support this dude? "bu,buh, but it's good for the economy and liberty..."

No its a lie. Ron Paul never said that., Just more lies from disingenuous liberals.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

a lot of law enforcement problems would be solved if they were required to wear a camera 24/7 and the footage is automatically sent to a 3rd party firm that reviews the video

You want the watchers to be watched? But that will interfere with their ability to perform their job

 

[tmonster]

I made no reference to race and/or age.read the post again.
The way some of you immediately jump out the window with this black vs white stuff, is
... and for the record, I agree with you.

So is it fair to say that you were not talking about black and brown children when you wrote about, "certain demographics" and you don't think the police has any reason to have prejudice against black and brown children, but only certain unrevealed demographics?

and when you wrote about "certain demographics", in a thread about how police view "black children", you did this because?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Ron Paul can eat a f*cking dikk.


The problem isn't us...it's them. How can you expect to be protected by people who see you essentially as a threat?

This is not entirely true either. Black america's embracing of the thug culture has made it all too easy for racist police to profile and criminalize black youth.

The fault ultimately lies with the collpase of the black family, due to an overzealous judicial system, black men abandoning their respective families, as well as black women replacing strong black men with government subsidies.

Many would argue that blacks were actually doing better under Jim Crow (i.e. more black institutions, more intact black families, etc) than under this "free society" we live in today.