Psychological Study Finds Cops View Black Children As Older And Less Innocent Than They Are

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:whoa: I wouldn't be able to offer even a bullsh*t defense for it. so ima let it go.
I just think there is a loss of innocence within certain demographics.
... and tho deplorable, the approach taken by those in law enforcement is logically sound.

There is nothing civilly justifiable about using disparate and more deadly tactics against people because of their ethnicity. That is cowardice, discrimination and inequitable. The notion that it is "logically sound" to target certain groups is also irrelevant. For it is logically sound to kill all people who commit crime because said people are more likely to commit crime in the future. Yet somehow this isn't the status quo. Why? Because it's civilly unjustifiable.
 
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No. Like many of the other issues brought up on this board it gets an economic issue as much or more than it is a race issue.

I think the evidence shows(pretty clearly) that crime is more prevalent in poor economic conditions, so law enforcement focusing their attention on these areas seems logical... to me at least.

I also think that if you were a 'cigar cop'(stay with me) and 60-80% of cigar cases took place in a certain neighborhood, and by people wearing yellow hats.
I don't think human nature would allow you to not focus on that neighborhood, and regard people from that neighborhood wearing yellow hats without suspicion.
Bias towards them, IMHO happens naturally, not from any ... well let me stop there.
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It doesn't matter if crime is more prevalent in certain areas or socioeconomic levels. Since you're a c00n, I'll give you a example you can relate with. Merely because there are poor meth users within a neighborhood doesn't justify cops breaking into people's homes and pointing guns in their faces over meth. It doesn't justify white cops slamming random young men into the ground and stepping on their necks yelling, "Where's the fukking stash? WHERE IS THE fukkING STASH!?!?" Police officers must show restraint and treat everyone the same. That is the basis of fair and equal under the law. Your c00ning is disgusted and well docuemnted as it goes.
 

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No. Like many of the other issues brought up on this board it gets an economic issue as much or more than it is a race issue.

I think the evidence shows(pretty clearly) that crime is more prevalent in poor economic conditions, so law enforcement focusing their attention on these areas seems logical... to me at least.

I also think that if you were a 'cigar cop'(stay with me) and 60-80% of cigar cases took place in a certain neighborhood, and by people wearing yellow hats.
I don't think human nature would allow you to not focus on that neighborhood, and regard people from that neighborhood wearing yellow hats without suspicion.
Bias towards them, IMHO happens naturally, not from any ... well let me stop there.
:whew: c00nin almost went to the next level again.



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a lot of law enforcement problems would be solved if they were required to wear a camera 24/7 and the footage is automatically sent to a 3rd party firm that reviews the video

it would help
but racism is neurologically subliminal
meaning it bypasses the part of the brain that thinks
imagine if Trayvon was white
or his killer black
those jurors would have seen a whole other scenario
but they can see skinny running for his life 17 yo kid and think, "yeah...that has to be the aggressor" only because they are so trained to be racist they don't think anymore
 

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There is nothing civilly justifiable about using disparate and more deadly tactics against people because of their ethnicity. That is cowardice, discrimination and inequitable. The notion that it is "logically sound" to target certain groups is also irrelevant. For it is logically sound to kill all people who commit crime because said people are more likely to commit crime in the future. Yet somehow this isn't the status quo. Why? Because it's civilly unjustifiable.
not even if I use some fancy words and suggestive non-sequitur casuistry:dahell: tough crowd
 

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Alright, so now what are we going to about it?

give us more stories
stories that undress the cognitive dissonance of racism
Stories that give us choice of identity
this is a war of consciousness
 

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:whoa: I wouldn't be able to offer even a bullsh*t defense for it. so ima let it go.
I just think there is a loss of innocence within certain demographics.
... and tho deplorable, the approach taken by those in law enforcement is logically sound.

How are you defining innocence? We're talking about children here. There's a difference between innocence in the sense of ignorance, not knowing about the world and innocence in terms of actual moral culpability. Black kids might be forced to grow up faster, but their culpability is the same as other kids because they are physiologically and mentally children. That's something nothing can change but age.
 

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How are you defining innocence? We're talking about children here. There's a difference between innocence in the sense of ignorance, not knowing about the world and innocence in terms of actual moral culpability. Black kids might be forced to grow up faster, but their culpability is the same as other kids because they are physiologically and mentally children. That's something nothing can change but age.
:whoa: Again I don't think its racial, but rather a characteristic of youths raised in poor economic conditions.
These youths, while innocent(ill concede that) pose adult threats, and are often far more volatile than adults...



My argument is in the approach of law enforcement itself. If crime is more prevalent in low income areas, is paying extra attention to those areas really that unfathomable or discriminatory?
@acri1 was absolutely correct that this approach creates highly inequitable numbers that further strengthen the approach(and bias) of law enforcement... but is the approach wrong(fundamentally flawed)? and if so how?


 

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:whoa: Again I don't think its racial, but rather a characteristic of youths raised in poor economic conditions.
These youths, while innocent(ill concede that) pose adult threats, and are often far more volatile than adults...

My argument is in the approach of law enforcement itself. If crime is more prevalent in low income areas, is paying extra attention to those areas really that unfathomable or discriminatory?
@acri1 was absolutely correct that this approach creates highly inequitable numbers that further strengthen the approach(and bias) of law enforcement... but is the approach wrong(fundamentally flawed)? and if so how?

It's could one, the other or a mixture of both. In practice itt doesn't matter. Cops are obligated to adjust their views and opinions to be fair and equal. The question is not whether cops should pay more attention crime heavy areas, but how cops should treat black kids and how their behavior is influenced by bias.
 
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No. Like many of the other issues brought up on this board it gets an economic issue as much or more than it is a race issue.

I think the evidence shows(pretty clearly) that crime is more prevalent in poor economic conditions, so law enforcement focusing their attention on these areas seems logical... to me at least.

I also think that if you were a 'cigar cop'(stay with me) and 60-80% of cigar cases took place in a certain neighborhood, and by people wearing yellow hats.
I don't think human nature would allow you to not focus on that neighborhood, and regard people from that neighborhood wearing yellow hats without suspicion.
Bias towards them, IMHO happens naturally, not from any ... well let me stop there.
:whew: c00nin almost went to the next level again.


It ain't even about c00ning at this point....You're just repugnant now. A failure of a human being.

I'm going to put you back on ignore and never take it off.
 
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