PSVR reviews

[MeachTheMonster]

Turning your head left right looking up and down and seeing the world all around you is not the same as looking at the image on your tv and waving your hands. I'm always dumbfounded when I see you guys stretch to compare the two in actual user experience. Now if you want to say they are both equally useless peripherals that won't add any real value to gaming in the long run and will only be a gimmick like Kinect, then that arguement has some logic to it.

Sure turning your head and looking at a tv are different, but on rails games with motion controls are similar experiences whether you are in VR or just looking st a tv.

Anybody who's played Kinect/move/wii can see the similarity in experience. Most of the games shown could easily be done with Kinect. Especially with PSVR and it's limited mobility options. You can't really turn around so it's basically just head tracking(like Kinect) with a tv strapped to your face.

 

[Fatboi1]

You can't really turn around so it's basically just head tracking(like Kinect) with a tv strapped to your face.

except you can turn around because I've played it.

Get this bullshyt ass argument out here Y'all dudes just trolling.
If VR is basically the same as Kinect, then Kinect is equal to the PS EYE.
Driving a car in Forza is the almost the same as being behind the wheel of an actual car. It's just that one has a TV plopped in front of your face

I don't want to hear this nonsense anymore gtfo

 

[MeachTheMonster]

except you can turn around because I've played it.

Get this bullshyt ass argument out here Y'all dudes just trolling.
If VR is basically the same as Kinect, then Kinect is equal to the PS EYE.
Driving a car in Forza is the almost the same as being behind the wheel of an actual car. It's just that one has a TV plopped in front of your face

I don't want to hear this nonsense anymore gtfo

There's only one camera, so if you turn around, it can't see what you are doing. Yes the head tracking works for you to turn around but nothing else does.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

Sure turning your head and looking at a tv are different, but on rails games with motion controls are similar experiences whether you are in VR or just looking st a tv.

Anybody who's played Kinect/move/wii can see the similarity in experience. Most of the games shown could easily be done with Kinect. Especially with PSVR and it's limited mobility options. You can't really turn around so it's basically just head tracking(like Kinect) with a tv strapped to your face.

If you play Forza Horizon 3 with Kinect, you have the controller in hand and are looking at the TV. When you turn your head to the left you will see a wall. When you turn your head to the right you will see a wall. When you look down you will see a dirty table.
If you play Drive Club VR with PSVR, you have the controller in hand and are looking into the headset. When you turn your head to the left you will see your driver side window and the cars/scenery on your left. When you turn your head to the right you will see you passenger side window and the cars/scenery to your right.
The experience is not the same at all.
What you describe as "a tv strapped to your face" will be the experience if you play a non-PSVR game, with the PSVR headset.
We've gone over this information quite a few times on this forum already.
The debate should be whether it will end up being a useless peripheral like kinect over time or not.

 

[Fatboi1]

If you play Forza Horizon 3 with Kinect, you have the controller in hand and are looking at the TV. When you turn your head to the left you will see a wall. When you turn your head to the right you will see a wall. When you look down you will see a dirty table.
If you play Drive Club VR with PSVR, you have the controller in hand and are looking into the headset. When you turn your head to the left you will see your driver side window and the cars/scenery on your left. When you turn your head to the right you will see you passenger side window and the cars/scenery to your right.
The experience is not the same at all.
What you describe as "a tv strapped to your face" will be the experience if you play a non-PSVR game, with the PSVR headset.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

If you play Forza Horizon 3 with Kinect, you have the controller in hand and are looking at the TV. When you turn your head to the left you will see a wall. When you turn your head to the right you will see a wall. When you look down you will see a dirty table.
If you play Drive Club VR with PSVR, you have the controller in hand and are looking into the headset. When you turn your head to the left you will see your driver side window and the cars/scenery on your left. When you turn your head to the right you will see you passenger side window and the cars/scenery to your right.
The experience is not the same at all.
What you describe as "a tv strapped to your face" will be the experience if you play a non-PSVR game, with the PSVR headset.
We've gone over this information quite a few times on this forum already.
The debate should be whether it will end up being a useless peripheral like kinect over time or not.

Driving games have had head tracking since Kinect came out. Driving games in VR use the same head tracking, but since the screen is strapped to your face you can turn your head more and still see the screen.

Again VR takes it a bit further but people playing project cars in VR, are not having a wholly different experience than those playing on a regular monitor.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

Driving games have had head tracking since Kinect came out. Driving games in VR use the same head tracking, but since the screen is strapped to your face you can turn your head more and still see the screen.

Again VR takes it a bit further but people playing project cars in VR, are not having a wholly different experience than those playing on a regular monitor.

Have you used any VR headset before? I've used that trash Samsung Galaxy Gear Headset plenty of times and the experience is NOTHING like watching a TV. Even with those horrible graphics the level of immersion can't be compared to a television. Its not the same by any stretch. I'm not understanding how you can logically compare the 2 at all. This "PSVR is the same as a regular TV with Kinect" in front of it talk is straight .
@Ciggavelli you've probably used VR more than anyone on here.
What do you think? Is using a TV with Kinect going to be the same experience as PSVR?

 

[Fatboi1]

Have you used any VR headset before? I've used that trash Samsung Galaxy Gear Headset plenty of times and the experience is NOTHING like watching a TV. Even with those horrible graphics the level of immersion can't be compared to a television. Its not the same by any stretch. I'm not understanding how you can logically compare the 2 at all. This "PSVR is the same as a regular TV with Kinect" in front of it talk is straight .
@Ciggavelli you've probably used VR more than anyone on here.
What do you think? Is using a TV with Kinect going to be the same experience as PSVR?

LOL it's plain trolling.

I've used a PSVR for 5 minutes and the way it felt is unlike anything else. Saying that PSVR is just head tracking with a "Tv strapped to your face" is fukking stupid. When I played Battlzone, looking around the battlefield was really something else. There was depth, there was presence, it felt like I was actually inside of a ship.

A TV is just a screen, it can look good and you can be engrossed but it's still not the same as actual VR.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Hypocritical or Sensitive? This is a public forum and you are free to ignore if you wish.

unless its a Courtdog post

both have the same principle

stay in one spot and move your arms around.
neither one of them allows you to move in a 3d space,

And yet you can with both of them combined

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Have you used any VR headset before? I've used that trash Samsung Galaxy Gear Headset plenty of times and the experience is NOTHING like watching a TV. Even with those horrible graphics the level of immersion can't be compared to a television. Its not the same by any stretch. I'm not understanding how you can logically compare the 2 at all. This "PSVR is the same as a regular TV with Kinect" in front of it talk is straight .
@Ciggavelli you've probably used VR more than anyone on here.
What do you think? Is using a TV with Kinect going to be the same experience as PSVR?

I never said it's the same.

More immersion does not equate to a totally different experience. Using a wheel and a huge tv is more immersive than playing Forza on a tv, but at the end of the day we are still playing the same game.

That's where the Kinect/wii/move comparisons come in. No one is denying that VR offers a more immersive experience, but it's the STYLE of game inherent to the technology that is similar to Kinect games.

I watched some footage of the until dawn game and the gameplay is the EXACT same as one of the on rails Kinect games. You duck and dodge the obstacles as they come, and reach out to grab/shoot things as they come up. The difference is that you can look around the entire room while doing it.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

LOL it's plain trolling.

I've used a PSVR for 5 minutes and the way it felt is unlike anything else. Saying that PSVR is just head tracking with a "Tv strapped to your face" is fukking stupid.

I agree. I think the experience is going to be completely different. I feel like he's trying to say it's the same because XB1 doesn't have this specific experience at the moment.
None of this takes away from the fact that I still believe that in the end PSVR will be another abandoned Sony peripheral that gets no real support (Just like the Move controllers were, the PSVITA, and PSTV) and will sit on a shelf collecting dust.
I just don't agree with the idea that Kinect and PSVR are the same thing.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I agree. I think the experience is going to be completely different. I feel like he's trying to say it's the same because XB1 doesn't have this specific experience at the moment.
None of this takes away from the fact that I still believe that in the end PSVR will be another abandoned Sony peripheral that gets no real support (Just like the Move controllers were, the PSVITA, and PSTV) and will sit on a shelf collecting dust.
I just don't agree with the idea that Kinect and PSVR are the same thing.

PSVR isn't the only VR on the market dummy

 

[Fatboi1]

I agree. I think the experience is going to be completely different. I feel like he's trying to say it's the same because XB1 doesn't have this specific experience at the moment.
None of this takes away from the fact that I still believe that in the end PSVR will be another abandoned Sony peripheral that gets no real support (Just like the Move controllers were, the PSVITA, and PSTV) and will sit on a shelf collecting dust.
I just don't agree with the idea that Kinect and PSVR are the same thing.

idk. Going by the launch games alone, there way way more games already coming out launch day then the Move ever had. Lots of games next year too. I seriously would love to play a VR game like Phoenix Wright or Zero Escape.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

PSVR isn't the only VR on the market dummy

What kind of response is this? When did I say, or even imply that PSVR is the only VR?
I even tagged @Ciggavelli to give his thoughts on his Oculus Rift and Vive experience. What in the world are you talking about Meach?
It seems like you're trying to lump in the arguments you've had with other people in with your responses to me.
I'm simply pointing out the the experience of PSVR is not going to be anything like the experience with Kinect.
I'm not even debating if one is going to be better than the other. I'm just saying that the experiences are VERY different.
Read what I'm actually saying and not what you think I'm saying.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

idk. Going by the launch games alone, there way way more games already coming out launch day then the Move ever had. Lots of games next year too. I seriously would love to play a VR game like Phoenix Wright or Zero Escape.

Time will tell. I have very little faith in Sony's commitment to their peripherals / side projects outside of the Playstation Console.