Production/Beats-wise, 36 Chambers may be the GOAT album

[Big Mel]

Kanye sucks.

 

[Big Mel]

Pro tools is the devil.

 

[Non Sequitur]

High Powered....maybe it was RBXs disastrous "Hiroshima" line but that song was unlistenable to me.

Also, deez nuts veers into cheeseball territory sonically.

Both of those beats are gawd status. Sampling Rudy Ray Moore> Sampling the Underdog theme song.

 

[Non Sequitur]

The Chronic loses points on creativity compared to the shyt Rza was flipping on 36.

Sure, but not many.

 

[Darts]

This is the shyt i'm talking about...just having fun with the creativity:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_2tpeIm02E&feature=related]Wu-Tang Clan - M.E.T.H.O.D Man [HQ] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

GREAT CLASSIC BUT THREAD IS DUCKTALES. sTR8 OUTTA COMPTON,nikkaZ4LIFE,CHRONIC,DOGGYSTYLE ETC>>>>

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

It is more than just the beat. The overall vibe and flow of the album, the theme, and the small little samples used all over the album are perfect.

Also, people don't tend to give Rza credit for being able to take so many rappers/personalities/styles and blending them together.

 

[Big Mel]

Both of those beats are gawd status. Sampling Rudy Ray Moore> Sampling the Underdog theme song.

You should listen to ohnomite.

But yeah, nitpicking the chronic or 36 chambers for flaws is just that.

Just youtubed deez nuts for the first time in years and was jamming.

 

[The Message]

36 Chambers was cinematic. I think the Rza wanted the album and other albums he did the bulk of production to be the audio equivalent to watching a film. Him directing movies should be no surprise.

But i wonder what all those joints sounded like that he lost in the flood... he said he had all of the mcs albums done, all they had to was lay verses.

 

[WuGambino]

 

[Darts]

Wu-Tang Clan - 7th Chamber (Original) - YouTube

Never heard this before. Good looking out.

 

[Family Man]

Nah

production on OB4CL and Liquid Swords are A LOT better

The production on ODB's first album too.

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

Yep.

Also about RZA...on 36 he really was the first to use vocal samples so much. He wasn't "the first" to do it, but he was the first to use it in earnest.

Dr.Dre
The Chronic
Death Row/Interscope records, 1992



01. The Chronic (Intro)
Written By: Snoop, Dre, Colin Wolfe
Additional Vocals By: Snoop

contains samples from:

Burke, Solomon
I Wish I Knew: (Atlantic 1968 )
"Get out of My Life, Woman" (Vocals)

Ohio Players
Pleasure: (Westbound 1972)
"Funky Worm"

2. fukk Wit Dre Day (and everybody's celebratin')
Written By: Dre, Snoop, Colin Wolfe
Additional Vocals By: Snoop, RBX, Jewell

Contains a sample of:
Funkadelic
Uncle Jam Wants You: (Warner Bros. 1979)
"Knot Just (Knee Deep)"

3. Let Me Ride
Written By: RBX, Snoop
Additional Vocals By: Ruben Cruz (RC), Jewell

Contains sample's of:

Brown, James
In the Jungle Groove: (Polydor 1986)
"Funky Drummer" (Drums)

Parliament
Mothership Connection: (Casablanca 1976)
"Mothership Connection"

Parliament
Live: (Casablanca 1977)
"Swing Down, Sweet Chariot"

Withers, Bill
Still Bill: (Sussex 1971)
"Kissin' My Love" (Drums)

4. The Day The nikkaz Took Over
Written By: Dre, RBX, Snoop, Daz
Additional Vocals By: RBX, Snoop, Daz

Contains a sample from KRS-One "Got Myself a uzi and my brother a nine"

5. Nuttin But a G Thang
Written By: Snoop
Additonal Vocals By: Snoop

Contains samples from:

Haywood, Leon
Come and Get Yourself Some: (20th Century 1979)
"I Wanna Do Something Freaky to You"

Kid Dynamite
Kid Dynamite: (Cream 1976)
"Uphill Peace of Mind"

6. Deeez Nuuuts
Intro By: Warren G
Written By: Dre, Daz, Snoop, Colin Wolfe, Nate Dogg
Additional Vocals By: Daz, Snoop, Nate

Contains a sample from the movie:

Dolemite Is President
"If I had nuts on the wall. . ." - Dolemite

7. Little Ghetto Boy
Written By: Snoop, DOC
Additional Vocals By: Snoop, Daz

Contains a sample from:

Hathaway, Donny
Come Back Charleston Blue soundtrack: (Atlantic 1972)
"Little Ghetto Boy"

8. A nikka Witta Gun
Written By: DOC, Snoop

Contains samples from:

Kay Gees
Keep on Bumpin & Master Plan: (Gang Records 1974)
"Who's the Man (with the Master Plan)" (Vocals)

Hammond, John (Smith, John Robert)
Higher Ground: (Kudu 1974)
"Big Sur Suite"

Whodini
Escape: (Jive 1984)
"Friends"

9. Rat-tat-tat-tat
Written By: Snoop, Dre
Addional Vocals By: RBX, BJ, Snoop

Conatains samples from:

Hathaway, Donny
Come Back Charleston Blue soundtrack: (Atlantic 1972)
"Vegetable Wagon"

Hutch, Willie
The Mack soundtrack: (Motown 1973)
"Brothers Gonna Work it Out"

Donaldson, Lou
Pretty Things: (Blue Note 1970)
"Pot Belly"

10. The $20 Sack Pyramid
Written By: DOC, Snoop, Dre
Addional Vocals By: Big Tittie Nickie, DOC, Samara, Snoop

Contains a sample from:

Tex, Joe
Live and Lively: (Atlantic 1968 )
"Papa Was Too"

11. Lyrical Gangbang
Written By: Kurupt, RBX, Rage, Snoop, Dre, DOC
Additional Vocals By: Rage, Kurupt, RBX

Contains Samples From:

Nite-Liters
Analysis: (RCA 1973)
"Damn"

Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin IV: (Atlantic 1971)
"When the Levee Breaks" (Drums)

12. High Powered
Written By: Dre, RBX, Colin Wolfe
Additional Vocals By: RBX, Rage, Daz

Contains a sample from:

Hammond, John (Smith, John Robert)
Higher Ground: (Kudu 1974)
"Big Sur Suite"

13. The Doctor's Office
Written By: Dre, Kevin Lewis, Jewell, Rage
Additional Vocals By: Rage, Jewell

14. Stranded On Death Row
Written By: Kurupt, RBX, Rage, Snoop
Additional Vocals By: Bushwick Bill, Kurupt, RBX, Rage, Snoop

Contains Samples From:

B. T. Express
Do it Till Your Satisfied: (Scepter/Roadshow 1974)
"If it Don't Turn You on (You Outta Leave it Alone)"

Hayes, Isaac
Live at the Sahara Tahoe: (Enterprise 1973)
"Do Your Thing"

15. The Roach (The Chonic Outro)
Written By: RBX, Rage, Daz
Additional Vocals By: RBX, Daz, Rage, Emmage, Ruben Cruz (RC), Jewell

Contains Samples From:

Honey Drippers
single: (Alaga 1973)
"Impeach the President" (Drums)

Parliament
Mothership Connection: (Casablanca 1976)
"P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)"

Parliament
Gloryhallastoopid: (Casablanca 1979)
"Colour Me Funky"

16. bytches Ain't shyt (Bonus Track)
Written By: Dre, Snoop, Kurupt, Daz, Jewell (Guessing)
Additional Vocals By: Snoop, Kurupt, Daz, Jewell

Contains a sample of:

Funkadelic
"Adolescent Funk"
Hardcore Jollies: (Warner Bros. 1976)



Little Ghetto Boy is the blueprint for tears ,can it be etc.





who remembers this ?

You know Pete Rock for his horns. Dre is known for the bass and moods. Nobody really brought the strings in as much as me. I was heavy in strings in the first hundred songs.

Premier did a lot of strings.
He started doing strings after Wu-Tang. Think of some Premier beats with strings.
“Code of the Streets”
“Code of the Streets” came after Wu-Tang. (Laughs) Premier is my man, my nikka but I know when his music changed. I used to always come up to Premier. Premier was killing nikkas but no one was chopping the way I was chopping son. Nobody was able to make three notes make the whole beat, like “Clan in Da Front.” I remember when Premier first heard that he was like, Yo man, son. He was in shock. He started chopping more. He was good for a good loop and a good scratch on top of the loop. Then it was a-boom, ching, jigga-jong. He never did that before. I introduced that mentality to people, to basically chop something beyond sample clearance. (Laughs) Chop it beyond compare. To me, sample clearance is already an illegal business. Because when you make a new derivative of a song then it’s
called a new derivative. It should be a new copyright for it. Take the Method Man song, ‘All I Need.” The version I made for the video, it sounds nothing like Marvin Gaye’s song. The only part is when Mary Blige sings. It’s a whole different mentality. They claimed 90% of that song, as if they wrote it. It’s a criminal activity business going on with that. I think there should be some kind of statutory to it. I as chopping music down to the inch.

[Ed Note: DJ Premier’s “Soliloquy of Chaos” from 1992’s Daily Operation and “Don’t Sweat the Technique” from 1991’s Step In The Arena both made use of strings in the beat. What do you all think?]

soulja's story came out 91 too

 

[ZEB WALTON]

who remembers this ?

You know Pete Rock for his horns. Dre is known for the bass and moods. Nobody really brought the strings in as much as me. I was heavy in strings in the first hundred songs.

Premier did a lot of strings.
He started doing strings after Wu-Tang. Think of some Premier beats with strings.
“Code of the Streets”
“Code of the Streets” came after Wu-Tang. (Laughs) Premier is my man, my nikka but I know when his music changed. I used to always come up to Premier. Premier was killing nikkas but no one was chopping the way I was chopping son. Nobody was able to make three notes make the whole beat, like “Clan in Da Front.” I remember when Premier first heard that he was like, Yo man, son. He was in shock. He started chopping more. He was good for a good loop and a good scratch on top of the loop. Then it was a-boom, ching, jigga-jong. He never did that before. I introduced that mentality to people, to basically chop something beyond sample clearance. (Laughs) Chop it beyond compare. To me, sample clearance is already an illegal business. Because when you make a new derivative of a song then it’s
called a new derivative. It should be a new copyright for it. Take the Method Man song, ‘All I Need.” The version I made for the video, it sounds nothing like Marvin Gaye’s song. The only part is when Mary Blige sings. It’s a whole different mentality. They claimed 90% of that song, as if they wrote it. It’s a criminal activity business going on with that. I think there should be some kind of statutory to it. I as chopping music down to the inch.

[Ed Note: DJ Premier’s “Soliloquy of Chaos” from 1992’s Daily Operation and “Don’t Sweat the Technique” from 1991’s Step In The Arena both made use of strings in the beat. What do you all think?]

soulja's story came out 91 too

i think rzas talking bout chopping with strings n shyt tho. soliquo of chaos is a loop, check the technique is just lil stabs of the sample here and there (both samples being at the start of the records). while rza was diggin. i see more rza influence in premier than the other way round.


also, the beat for TEARZ predates The Chronic, 1991: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s71piffH28"]Wu tang Clan "After the Laughter" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

i have that demo and we can't know for sure when that or lil ghetto were made we do know when they were released.

i don't even wanna get into the muggs/bomb squad/dre etc. influence on rza

what's irritating is much like rza ,wu-fanatics will have you believe he was the first to do everything

for example i remember "xzibit - the foundation" (muggs) being discussed and seeing comments on how it sounds like "classic rza"