Prime Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr vs Prime Felix "Tito" Trinidad at 147.....who wins?

[LauderdaleBoss]

Here's why...

If you remember, Floyd's ultimate goal was to get a big fight with De La Hoya. Arum knews this. Mainly because Floyd kept asking him over and over to get him a fight with DLH. And Arum showed no interest in doing so whatsoever, mainly because he was still salty that Oscar left TR and went on to make money without him. Floyd wanted that fight badly, and Arum said no way. At that point, Bob knew that Floyd was leaving him. It was inevitable

So Floyd beats Zab, and then Arum comes and offers him 8 mil. Which is all well and good. But the catch was that Floyd would've had to re-up with TR on a multi-fight deal. Floyd didn't wanna do that, because he knew there would be no chance of him getting a dream fight with Oscar. However, he said he'd be willing to re-up with Arum under only if he would guarantee him 10 mil for fights with Cotto and Hatton in the future. Arum would only guarantee him 7. Mind you that's less than he guaranteed for the Margarito fight. Really? You gonna offer him less money for bigger draw guys

So Floyd said fukk that, bought out his contract, fought Baldomir for 8 mil and the belt, then went on to have his big money fight with Oscar. And the rest was history.

That's why I don't really buy that Margarito talk. Arum intentionally lowballed a guy on the premise that he knew he was leaving and needed ammo to start a smear campaign

In the end, not fighting Margarito was the smartest decision of Floyd's boxing career

I know about all of the Arum fukkery and Floyd had every right to do what he did, but he still ducked the nikka in my book. That's just my opinion though and I respect yours. At the same time he could have still made the fight after the Oscar bout. Dude found a way to avoid some tough challenges and just kept on doing it. It started a chain of events.

Karma is a bytch though and now he doesn't really have anybody fans want to see him in the ring with.

Canelo- already happened and was one-sided and boring
Maidana- good fight, but it's not some mega fight and shyt was rough and taxing on his body
Cotto- he'd have to fukk with TR or make some type of concessions
Manny- that ain't happening.

Nobody would really care about him beating up the Guerrero's of the world now if he would have already beaten up the Willaims and Margarito's of the world. But that's just my opinion though.

 

[Master Teacher]

And another thing

I met Mayweather in person at the white party in detroit and this nikka got be like 5'6 TOPS

he fighting guys who are clearly bigger than him

put it like this, yall talk that midget shyt, but guess what Tito got 72 and half inch reach Mayweather got a 72 inch reach, so there you have it nikka

you forget mayweather got long ass arms

 

[krackdagawd]

Because he cut weight to get there, that's why he had no fukking power, this nikka body was frail as fukk he was suppose to be a light heavy his whole career
and could have been if he chose too, matter of fact he didn't lose he would have stayed at middle weight

Terry Norris is an example of somebody who was true to their weight class, you wanna call nikkaz midgets now, Terry Norris was 5'9, but he was solid
he was a real light middle weight

Jesus Christ where do I even begin

Are you slow or some shyt? If Bhop was cutting serious weight he wouldnt be able to last 15 YEARS in that division. He was only cutting water nikka, when was the last time a non heavy lasted more than a decade in a division let alone 15. This is why I hardly leave the boxing thread for all things related to boxing.

 

[King P]

I know about all of the Arum fukkery and Floyd had every right to do what he did, but he still ducked the nikka in my book. That's just my opinion though and I respect yours. At the same time he could have still made the fight after the Oscar bout.

Yes and no.

Remember, Margarito was still with Arum. We know Arum and Floyd's relationship post DLH. And also, Margarito ruined his chances. At the time he wasn't a big name. Things didn't change until he KO'd Cotto. That win put his name out there, and had HBO trying to really build him up. Like I said before, had he beaten Shane Mosley, I think he woulda gotten a fight with Mayweather. But Shane stopped KO'd him, plus Margarito had the hand wraps controversy, which essentially ended any chance he had of getting a fight with Floyd.

It is what it is

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Yes and no.

Remember, Margarito was still with Arum. We know Arum and Floyd's relationship post DLH. And also, Margarito ruined his chances. At the time he wasn't a big name. Things didn't change until he KO'd Cotto. That win put his name out there, and had HBO trying to really build him up. Like I said before, had he beaten Shane Mosley, I think he woulda gotten a fight with Mayweather. But Shane stopped KO'd him, plus Margarito had the hand wraps controversy, which essentially ended any chance he had of getting a fight with Floyd.

It is what it is

If Floyd wants to fight you. He's not going to let anything stop it from happening. He got the Oscar fight done because he really wanted to make it happen. He rematched Castillo because he really wanted to make it happen. I'm not giving that nikka a pass for shyt. Tonio could have beaten Shane and Floyd would have still found somebody else to fight like he always does. shyt's like clockwork but you right though. It is what it is. Dude will always use a promoter or whatever instrument that suits his agenda to stop certain fights from happening, meanwhile we get other fights to happen.

This ain't no hate on him though. He still got mad fukking skills. I just wished he tested it against better fighters. Now we gotta assume how he would do against killers like Tito, but when it comes to Tito we all know he'll get in the ring with some killers win or lose.

 

[Master Teacher]

Jesus Christ where do I even begin

Are you slow or some shyt? If Bhop was cutting serious weight he wouldnt be able to last 15 YEARS in that division. He was only cutting water nikka, when was the last time a non heavy lasted more than a decade in a division let alone 15. This is why I hardly leave the boxing thread for all things related to boxing.

Yall always got to take it to the extremes when you are losing an argument

the point is Bernard Hopkins could've been a light heavy height for the longest, but stayed at middle weight, he stayed at middleweight way after he had natural outgrew that weight class, why can't you understand that by the time

he was 36-37 years old when he fought trinidad, he was well behind the age where he could be the most healthy at middleweight

But all that is not even relevant, he destroyed Trinidad to the point where size didn't even need to be a factor

The point is Trinidad's comp is not beyond today's guys by any stretch of the imagination

 

[Newzz]

Floyd Mayweather fought Carlos Baldomir in November 2006, at that time, Baldomir was ranked

I know about all of the Arum fukkery and Floyd had every right to do what he did, but he still ducked the nikka in my book. That's just my opinion though and I respect yours. At the same time he could have still made the fight after the Oscar bout. Dude found a way to avoid some tough challenges and just kept on doing it. It started a chain of events.

Karma is a bytch though and now he doesn't really have anybody fans want to see him in the ring with.

Canelo- already happened and was one-sided and boring
Maidana- good fight, but it's not some mega fight and shyt was rough and taxing on his body
Cotto- he'd have to fukk with TR or make some type of concessions
Manny- that ain't happening.

Nobody would really care about him beating up the Guerrero's of the world now if he would have already beaten up the Willaims and Margarito's of the world. But that's just my opinion though.

 

[krackdagawd]

Yall always got to take it to the extremes when you are losing an argument

the point is Bernard Hopkins could've been a light heavy height for the longest, but stayed at middle weight, he stayed at middleweight way after he had natural outgrew that weight class, why can't you understand that by the time

he was 36-37 years old when he fought trinidad, he was well behind the age where he could be the most healthy at middleweight

But all that is not even relevant, he destroyed Trinidad to the point where size didn't even need to be a factor

The point is Trinidad's comp is not beyond today's guys by any stretch of the imagination

What argument am I losing? You are the only one here saying Cotto beats Trinidad.

This is the first time I've ever heard ANYONE say BHop wasn't a natural middle. He was campaigning at middle longer than you have been watching boxing.

Only person I see losing here is you friend.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I swear some of the shyt people say in here would get you laughed out of a real boxing gym quick.

 

[Master Teacher]

What argument am I losing? You are the only one here saying Cotto beats Trinidad.

This is the first time I've ever heard ANYONE say BHop wasn't a natural middle. He was campaigning at middle longer than you have been watching boxing.

Only person I see losing here is you friend.

Google is Bhop a natural middleweight and it's discussed all the time

He's campaigned at middle weight for a long time but Trinidad was his biggest win at the time when he first beat him

let's not act B Hop is the late bloomers dream, and he made his stamp on the game later in his career

You nikkaz gotta hop around subjects everytime you get cracked in the head

once again WHO DID TITO BEAT THAT COTTO COULD NOT BEAT

nikkaz talking Vargas is an all time great now nikka

 

[Master Teacher]

Google is Bhop a natural middleweight and it's discussed all the time

He's campaigned at middle weight for a long time but Trinidad was his biggest win at the time when he first beat him

Just because he fought at MIDDLE WEIGHT the majority of his career doesn't make a NATURAL 160 pounder

why can't you grasp that

let's not act B Hop is the late bloomers dream, and he made his stamp on the game later in his career

You nikkaz gotta hop around subjects everytime you get cracked in the head

once again WHO DID TITO BEAT THAT COTTO COULD NOT BEAT

nikkaz talking Vargas is an all time great now nikka

 

[Master Teacher]

Trinidad at the age of 33 was already washed up, while Cotto is still in the game
look at the performances, Cotto has improved with time trinidad got worst

 

[Master Teacher]

I swear some of the shyt people say in here would get you laughed out of a real boxing gym quick.

I was just in a boxing gym with earl thomas' cousin who is pro, and he didn't know who Keith Thurman was

stop acting like you know what gets talked about in a gym

 

[Skip b]

Cotto beats Trinidad? Da fukk am I reading here

Cotto just got his first lineal title from a nikka with no knees and Cotto stans puffing their chest out.

Cotto can possibly box the shyt out of him, lets not act like Tito never got the shyt boxed out of him, not to mention Tito takes stupid shots and is chinny as fukk, Cotto not only put him on his ass but embarrasses him to a ud.........Cotto fights up and down to the level of his competition


People still think Cotto is chinny, he aint really been koed, vs Margarito he retired, and vs Manny it was a frivolous ref stoppage......If Tito doesn't tag him early then what.........Nothing but a ass whooping


Cotto aint Mamadou

 

[King P]