President on Leno: "We don't have a domestic spying program."

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Politicians say all kinds of stuff, especially if they think its gonna get them attention/votes. He has the same amount of proof as you, NONE.

So a Senator who has been on the intelligence committee since pre 9-11 has absolutely no idea what goes on? Is that what you're telling me?

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Again, it doesn't matter what some of present because it isn't coming from Obama's mouth.

But maybe if it DID come from Obama's mouth you might want to hear it. Let's see what Senator Obama had to say about these programs when it was Republicans doing it and he wasn't running for President yet:

http://www.propublica.org/article/the-surveillance-reforms-obama-supported-before-he-was-president

:ohhh:

So he thought it WAS spying and illegal? :ohhh:
Like I said, politicians will say ANYTHING if they think it gets them votes. People need to quit getting caught up in the fights that THEY make.

They control the narrative, and as usual the people fall for it and get "outraged" about the wrong things.

Instead of protesting their access to the information. We should be demanding oversight of the operations. We should be demanding transparency of who, what, where, why the information is being monitored and who's doing the monitoring.

The information has to be saved, or else it's gone forever. You can go back to a crime scene 20 years later and still find physical evidence, but you can't do that with digital information unless someone saves it.
 

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So a Senator who has been on the intelligence committee since pre 9-11 has absolutely no idea what goes on? Is that what you're telling me?

Stop trolling

Nah, I'm sure he knows what's going on, but Im also sure he wouldn't speak out about ANYTHING if he didn't think it would raise his political clout.
 
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Nah, I'm sure he knows what's going on, but Im also sure he wouldn't speak out about ANYTHING if he didn't think it would raise his political clout.

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Like I said, politicians will say ANYTHING if they think it gets them votes. People need to quit getting caught up in the fights that THEY make.

They control the narrative, and as usual the people fall for it and get "outraged" about the wrong things.

Instead of protesting their access to the information. We should be demanding oversight of the operations. We should be demanding transparency of who, what, where, why the information is being monitored and who's doing the monitoring.

The information has to be saved, or else it's gone forever. You can go back to a crime scene 20 years later and still find physical evidence, but you can't do that with digital information unless someone saves it.

Nah, I'm sure he knows what's going on, but Im also sure he wouldn't speak out about ANYTHING if he didn't think it would raise his political clout.



Okay Meach, like I said earlier. No evidence would be good enough for you. Nothing short of President Obama getting up there and saying it.

At least your consistent, that's every position you take when it comes to our current President.

The burden for proof of legality is on the government, not the governed. When citizens have tried to sue to gain information, the NSA just claims everything is classified and they can't discuss it in court.

Like I said earlier, the White House, Senators, and Clapper have admitted that Snowden did leak information about us intelligence programs. These programs collected data on millions of American citizens (confirmed above by Clapper) without probable cause/warrant (confirmed by Clapper above).
 

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Okay Meach, like I said earlier. No evidence would be good enough for you. Nothing short of President Obama getting up there and saying it.

At least your consistent, that's every position you take when it comes to our current President.

The burden for proof of legality is on the government, not the governed. When citizens have tried to sue to gain information, the NSA just claims everything is classified and they can't discuss it in court.

Like I said earlier, the White House, Senators, and Clapper have admitted that Snowden did leak information about us intelligence programs. These programs collected data on millions of American citizens (confirmed above by Clapper) without probable cause/warrant (confirmed by Clapper above).
It has nothing to do what Obama says or doesn't say.

Like I said, you need to quit getting caught up in the fights they create. It's all a distraction.

It's pointless, they will always give you politics and talking points. Them american people need to learn how to play the game with them. Quit falling for the okie doke. In a couple weeks this will blow over, they might change the wording in some of the laws and it will be business as usual.
 
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@MeachTheMonster is a known troll in the arcadium. I guess after the many L's he took along with Hix xbot fanbase, he's resorted to trolling on here

Some one show @MeachTheMonster the article where the husband and wife were searching for pressure cooker and backpacks and the FBI showed up at thier doorbell. He fails to seethe truth onanything. Don't even bother with him.
 

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And if he said "hell yeah we spying on you muthafukkers " would it make you feel better?
 

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This is from 2008 when the NSA got caught ease dropping on military personnel phone calls. Just watch the video of people working for the NSA admitting to doing this. I just don't know about some of you dudes who deny this stuff is going on.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-inside-account-us-eavesdropping-americans/story?id=5987804

Exclusive: Inside Account of U.S. Eavesdropping on Americans

Despite pledges by President George W. Bush and American intelligence officials to the contrary, hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home, according to two former military intercept operators who worked at the giant National Security Agency (NSA) center in Fort Gordon, Georgia.

The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), called the allegations "extremely disturbing" and said the committee has begun its own examination.

"We have requested all relevant information from the Bush Administration," Rockefeller said Thursday. "The Committee will take whatever action is necessary."
 

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@MeachTheMonster is a known troll in the arcadium. I guess after the many L's he took along with Hix xbot fanbase, he's resorted to trolling on here

Some one show @MeachTheMonster the article where the husband and wife were searching for pressure cooker and backpacks and the FBI showed up at thier doorbell. He fails to seethe truth onanything. Don't even bother with him.

the husbands employer reported them to the local police...
 
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