President Obama coming to Chi-Raq to 'talk about the gun violence'

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Look at all the states surrounding Illinois, and their lack of gun control laws and heavy gun shows and how easy it is to get a gun out of the surrounding state. Then realize your sarcasm failed.

The issue is the pathetic sentencing laws. There is strong gun control without actual lengthy sentencing laws ALONG with the lax gun laws around the surrounding states of Illinois. Hence why this needs to be fixed on a federal level. Michael Ward the guy reported to have killed Hadiya Pendleton yestreday, when arrested was said to have multiple multiple violations and with his most recent one involving a weapon he received just 2 years probation. It's like taking away your kid's ipad as punishment but telling them "you can keep your smartphone".

People need to reallly stop with that annoying ass "Chicago has the strongest gun laws" sarcasm because its getting played out especially since they do not bring up what I just did.

There are folks out there getting longer probation than actual SENTENCING

You can put that away now

that wont change anything. criminals will get guns regardless. we have the largest prison population in history and your suggestion is to put more people in prison? that's putting a band-aid on a bullet wound.

we have a cultural problem, the real problem is WHY are these kids going crazy out here. that's what really needs to be addressed.

 

[CASHAPP]

that wont change anything. criminals will get guns regardless. we have the largest prison population in history and your suggestion is to put more people in prison? that's putting a band-aid on a bullet wound.

we have a cultural problem, the real problem is WHY are these kids going crazy out here. that's what really needs to be addressed.

How will it not change anythiing?

If you are fixing laws to have stop loose gun shows and laws around certain states to make the nation better on a federal level.........how will that not change anything?



Folks need to stop with that its a cultural issue.........

Its multiple issues all together; No one ever said it was just one thing. We are just trying to focus on the main thing.

But hwo is not reforming the states surrounding Illinois on a federal level. not gonna fix anything if alot of these guns are out of state?

If the House/Senate are both working on Bipartisan bills now to make gun trafficking a felony(no it isn't a felony already). how will that "not fix anything"

 

[Born2BKing]

He'll probably mention the importance of fatherhood/parenting. Thats one of his favorite things to bring up when talking about "black shyt".

But seriously, what else could he possibly say other than "ya'll need to chill out"?

It'll probably be a good point since most of them dudes out there killing each other have no damn father.

 

[mbewane]

Obama 'bout to keep it 3hunna

Spoiler

 

[88m3]

Beng beng

Said his bytch wanna cuff me but she can only suck me, see I ain't with the lovey dovey

 

[No1]

that wont change anything. criminals will get guns regardless. we have the largest prison population in history and your suggestion is to put more people in prison? that's putting a band-aid on a bullet wound.

we have a cultural problem, the real problem is WHY are these kids going crazy out here. that's what really needs to be addressed.

Your argument ignores the fact that making it harder for criminals to get weapons does make a difference. Second, you improperly point out that we have the largest prison population in the world as somehow being indicative of the fact that prison sentences have no deterring effect on gun trafficking. It also ignores the fact that most people in prison are non-violent drug offenders, which does not involve gun trafficking and does not tell as anything about the deterring effects of tougher gun laws, checks, etc. Basically, your entire post is based on tangential relationships as a means to disregard and ignore actually analyzing what gun laws may do and to veer the discussion to strictly cultural issues. While ignoring the fact that an issue may have more than one cause and in this case it is obvious that access to weapons is one of those causes. Each of those causes requires a different solution to have the cumulative effect of decreasing gun violence. France, and many parts of Europe have downtrodden people and often destructive counter cultures as well, but they don't have our level of gun violence because it is not as easy to access it.

You're inadvertently arguing for a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure. That's pretty much my only post on the subject.

 

[MostReal]

He will be in a nice area of Chicago talking about Gun-Violence. He won't come to the hood to address the issue.

he better not avoid the hood while addressing this topic. I'd be insulted

yep...another speech about violence in america. everybody knows what it takes to end the gang warfare in the chi but wont do it.

what is this exactly?

 

[Rekkapryde]

If Obama makes makes a law classifying gangs as terrorists that would be a start.

@rodmusprime made a good point about this shyt in one of his episodes a week ago on his podcast talking about the violence. It's a good listen.

http://theblackguywhotips.podomatic.com/enclosure/2013-01-31T18_52_31-08_00.mp3

 

[daze23]

that wont change anything. criminals will get guns regardless. we have the largest prison population in history and your suggestion is to put more people in prison? that's putting a band-aid on a bullet wound.

we have a cultural problem, the real problem is WHY are these kids going crazy out here. that's what really needs to be addressed.

but part of that "cultural problem" is we sell AR-15's at Walmart

 

[Real N Quotes]

he better not avoid the hood while addressing this topic. I'd be insulted




what is this exactly?

most of the violence is gang related. gangs feed off the street market ie. drugs, prostitution, stolen goods

hire more cops
mandatory curfews for teens under 18 at 9pm
enforce stop and frisk throughout city
fine all parents of kids who do not attend school $100 dollars a day without a valid excuse or doctors note
from pre-k to 12th grade enforce school uniforms in all public schools

you can't have peace without war

 

[daze23]

If Obama makes makes a law classifying gangs as terrorists that would be a start.

the "start" of a shyt-storm

 

[Dwight Howard]

Its nothing Obama can do to stop guns, kids, and Chicago. Its their decision to make, let them make it. Time will pass and improvement WILL be shown. Just give them space.

 

[MostReal]

most of the violence is gang related. gangs feed off the street market ie. drugs, prostitution, stolen goods

hire more cops
mandatory curfews for teens under 18 at 9pm
enforce stop and frisk throughout city
fine all parents of kids who do not attend school $100 dollars a day without a valid excuse or doctors note
from pre-k to 12th grade enforce school uniforms in all public schools

you can't have peace without war

so the Mayor & city council can't do this?

 

[Rice N Beans]

I anticipate a speech from Hyde Park.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Has he even been back since 2008