POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread

[88m3]

I keep saying it. There's a very clear union between a lot of far leftists and the right wing.

I can't defend this

I don't think she's being reasonable

What do you guys think @Rhakim @mastermind @Pressure @NZA @wire28 ?

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Inflatin/CPI falling too. We could enter October, right before holiday season starts, with normal level inflation.

Problem is that businesses are going to keep prices high anyways. The profits are insane nowadays.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I can't defend this

I don't think she's being reasonable

What do you guys think @Rhakim @mastermind @Pressure @NZA @wire28 ?

Why are you quoting a comment from two weeks and 10+ pages ago that we've all already discussed?

Is that really the most interesting political topic you could come up with, the one you felt was really worth your time again?

 

[Pressure]

I can't defend this

I don't think she's being reasonable

What do you guys think @Rhakim @mastermind @Pressure @NZA @wire28 ?

The most outspoken left voices on this site are highly educated professionals who won't suffer from the radicals ideas they push.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The most outspoken left voices on this site are highly educated professionals who won't suffer from the radicals ideas they push.

Every right-leaning "I'm a Democrat but..." in here brags about their 6-figure corporate life and landlord status, but you try to just make up these ducktales in defense?

 

[Pressure]

Every right-leaning "I'm a Democrat but..." in here brags about their 6-figure corporate life and landlord status, but you try to just make up these ducktales in defense?

The difference between me, you, and Godless Liberal CEO is I don't pretend that I worked hard for the life that I have and enjoy what that provides for my family despite believing there's change that can make the world better.

Actually, the difference between me and you is that your livelihood requires you to preach about the ills of the world.

L

 

[Pressure]

What evidence is there for this talking point at all? Bernie talked about Black-specific issues far more than most candidates have, while the candidate that won didn't talk about Black-specific issues at all. In fact, I can't recall any candidate EVER winning due to how much he talked about Black-specific issues. So where are y'all getting this talking point from?

I've brought up a ton of ads, tweets, policies, etc. where Bernie put Black folk from and center. No one else talked about the Black-White wealth gap as much as he did, no one else talked about HBCU's and the Black student loan debt burden as much as he did, no one else talked about Black-White discrepancies in health care as much as he did, no one else talked about police brutality against Black folk as much as he did. No one else had Black folk as central to his campaign (Nina Turner and Briahna Joy Gray).

Meanwhile, Biden gave the Black community....what exactly? He pandered to literal White supremacists more than he pandered to Black folk, bragging how well he had worked across the aisle with racists. He lied about getting arrested to see Mandela, had multiple creepy moments with black kids, talked around his previous opposition to busing, dropped multiple statements where he blamed Black families for underperforming schools, swept his authorship of the crime bill (and low-key his support for ALL the other major crime bills) under the rug, promised nothing to decrease the black-white wealth gap....that's the candidate the establishment gave us. He has done NOTHING for our community and doesn't have to commit to doing anything going forward.

So what could Bernie have done to be more like Biden in that regard?

But then you dishonestly tried to pretend she wasn't a voice of the left and was just a press secretary.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

But then you dishonestly tried to pretend she wasn't a voice of the left and was just a press secretary.

You're taking me out of context, I'm responding to someone who literally said, "Bernie didn't pander to Black voters enough." Where the fukk in that comment do you get the claim that I called her a voice for the left? I have NEVER said anywhere that Gray was anything more than a Black face for his campaign.

I do appreciate that you just desperately tried to search my history for Gray praise, and the best you could find was, "Well, she was part of Bernie's campaign."


Meanwhile, when I pointed out that Obama's press secretaries (the two YOU named) parlayed that into huge corporate gigs pushing Amazon and McDonalds, you went crickets. You called them true believers in Obama's agenda, and they respond by committing their life to prop up giant multinationals that are destroying the world on multiple levels?

 

[Pressure]

You're taking me out of context, I'm responding to someone who literally said, "Bernie didn't pander to Black voters enough." I have NEVER said anywhere that Gray was anything more than a Black face for his campaign.

I do appreciate that you just desperately tried to search my history for Gray praise, and the best you could find was, "Well, she was part of Bernie's campaign."

So your response here is that Bernie was pro black because he put a black woman as the spokesperson of his campaign even though she isn't pro black?

Is BGY a leftist?
Is she pro black?

Seems like black voters saw through the bullshyt?

Looks like both your arguments aren't standing up to scrutiny.

 

[Pressure]

It will never stop being funny watching you type these long diatribes instead of being succinct and just say she's wrong because she's associated with Bernie.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So your response here is that Bernie was pro black because he put a black woman as the spokesperson of his campaign even though she isn't pro black?

No, my response was that Bernie's failure to get Black votes had nothing to do with "failing to pander to Black voters."

Is BGY a leftist?
Is she pro black?

Seems like black voters saw through the bullshyt?

You're running with the same idiotic argument he was making. The average Black voter had no fukking clue what Gray's positions were, she was literally just a face for Bernie's campaign. And in the end, her being a face for his campaign was irrelevant to whether they voted for him or not.

Bernie had disproportionately high Black support in pre-primary polling. His Black support always outpaced his White support significantly. And there was little Black opposition to Bernie's positions. The top three reasons that Bernie didn't win enough Black support to win the nomination were that many Black voters didn't think a socialist would beat Trump in a general election campaign, the establishment was heavily behind Biden and got their cronies to line up behind him, and the Clyburn endorsement.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It will never stop being funny watching you type these long diatribes instead of being succinct and just say she's wrong because she's associated with Bernie.

The first time this exact quote came up, I dismissed her in a single line saying she was a grifter who only does this shyt for views. Funny you demand that I repeat the same shyt I've already said in response to the same quote, and then when I don't you bytch that I'm not being succinct enough.

I've only ever seen her posted here, but I've never had anyone irl who actually supported her and not criticized her. Most leftists I've come across consider her to be a grifter.

This. She's a good face for media and leans into controversial takes because that's how she gets views. She's not anyone's thought leader.

So look, you're lying again, what a surprise.



Y'all are pathetic as hell that the best thing you have to offer the country is recycling the same old quotes from two weeks ago to argue about nothing.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The difference between me, you, and Godless Liberal CEO is I don't pretend that I worked hard for the life that I have and enjoy what that provides for my family despite believing there's change that can make the world better.

Are you admitting that you didn't have to work as hard for what you have, and yet enjoy it, and still push anti-leftist bullshyt that keeps others from enjoying the same?

I have literally no idea what you're trying to say about us in this statement.

Actually, the difference between me and you is that your livelihood requires you to preach about the ills of the world.

I'm lucky enough to have little trouble making a livelihood doing virtually anything I want. I'm qualified and experienced in two professions that have nothing to do with "preaching the ills of the world."

You're angry at me that I've chosen to structure my life so that I'm actually addressing the world's problems in my day job. I work far harder doing this than I would if I was simply earning a paycheck. While you're just advancing corporate interests for money, and try to pretend that self-interest and business environment doesn't poison your positions on public issues as well.

 

[NZA]

I can't defend this

I don't think she's being reasonable

What do you guys think @Rhakim @mastermind @Pressure @NZA @wire28 ?

is she the one saying that or is it baraka?

i dont think much of her. she seemed kinda slimy when she debated sam seder. i dont think highly of anybody who works for campaigns, and quite frankly, i dont know why they are being used for political points when they are all a bunch of mercenaries who go working for god knows who when the spotlight is off them, but symone sanders, bernie's other press secretary, seems ok.

 

[Pressure]

Everyone is good when they're useful.