Post Mike Brown: Hip Hop doesn't feel right to me anymore

[10:31]

I see you breh, i'll post when I can collect my thoughts and kinda sit them on the table.

Meant to @ you fam..

Would love to hear/read your perspective on how you're feeling?

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

But what's your take on the gatekeepers.. The CEOs and A&Rs who played the most important role in what's showcased..

From there it's what's showcased and now it impacts the masses..


How it programs and conditions a human mind which in the grand scheme things keeps thousands of irrational ideas and stereotypes alive..

What's your view on that fam?

A lot of the people you tagged are in their late 20s/early 30s who are productive, producing members of society. All grew up on Hip Hop and heavy gangsta rap. The difference is we had someone in our lives, whomever it ended up being, that smacked/talked some sense into us. Should we blame Hip Hop directly for the lack of positive role models in local communities and good people across the board? I think we should blame capitalism for putting 'millionaires' like dumb athletes and even worse rappers at the top of the 'who you should be like' list because they make so much money and SPEND so much money.

People were shytty before HIp Hop, if something happens and it magically ceases to exist, people will be shytty people just the same. Just like if they stopped making rap music the buying and selling of marijuana wouldn't change. White people being afraid of black people is as old as this country. White people harming black people is as old as this country. fukking sad but none the less true.

I think the CEOs are out for a buck and will stop at nothing to get it. Im sure some are racist but money rules everything around us. If all these people who are legit pissed about low quality Hip Hop, the radio, and the like...move your money. Buy a Sirius subscription and listen to Backspin all day. Don't go to YG shows because everyone else will be there. Go to the underground shows that people seem to clown cuz its 'a room of 16 white people/hippys'

I say it here a ton. Everyone has no problem getting into a club, buying over priced alcohol, smoking a ton of weed, buying new shoes....but people can't spend 10 bucks a month supporting artists who put love into their music instead of fear/hate.

 

[Wild self]

There isn't any Public Enemy type music in the mainstream to speak on these issues, but it's been like that for a while now @bigrodthe1 just made a thread earlier speaking on the weakening of music, social awareness and etc.

This is the first era where social injustice is NOT exposed through black music. EVER.

That in itself is much more disturbing. Just a bunch of rapping c00ns that make their morsel of show money and not giving a fukk about their fellow black man.

 

[Insensitive]

This is the first era where social injustice is NOT exposed through black music. EVER.

That in itself is much more disturbing. Just a bunch of rapping c00ns that make their morsel of show money and not giving a fukk about their fellow black man.

I'm PRETTY SURE several artists have spoken on the incident.
Unless of course I missed something and talib kweli, J. cole, G-Unit, game
and damn near everybody he featured and just up and disappeared.

 

[Crakface]

Would love for the CACs who post here to chime in (interesting to see how you guys feel)



In the wake of what happened to Mike Brown (Eric Garner) and still digesting the aftermath of Trayvon Martin the allure of hip hop as beginning to disinterest me.

I'm 31 and for the first time in my adult life I'm completely conscious/aware of the impact the images in the art have on the world. The youth movement that used to promote partying and strategic rebellion has devolved into a brainless animalistic genre that perpetuaes sterotypes.

Over and over and over

Is anyone else feeling a little jaded post Mike Brown?


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You realized rappers doing the als challenge instead of ridin for mike brown meant hiphop has no heroes and they have sold the fukk out to become corporate house nikkas.

We all realized the new generation doesn't stand for a damn thing and all that tough talk is only directed at other black people and not their mortal enemy these white supremacists.

David banner and Talib kweli.

Everyone else silent minus that song.......

Now it's back to killing black people and reminding other black people they are worthless.

 

[Wild self]

I'm PRETTY SURE several artists have spoken on the incident.
Unless of course I missed something and talib kweli, J. cole, G-Unit, game
and damn near everybody he featured and just up and disappeared.

I means on a massive single with a video getting massive airplay. Like, on the level of that Iggy song. Rappers need to put shyt on their SINGLES.

 

[10:31]

You realized rappers doing the als challenge instead of ridin for mike brown meant hiphop has no heroes and they have sold the fukk out to become corporate house nikkas

Yeh. It was the last straw for me


Everybody is Super Thug or Super Concious in the booth but when something shakes the world they're quiet as a church mouse.

It's cool though I speak for myself when I state I could careless what ignorant people have to say on such a polerazing issue..


My focus is the house nikkas slave masters.

 

[Insensitive]

I means on a massive single with a video getting massive airplay. Like, on the level of that Iggy song. Rappers need to put shyt on their SINGLES.

No, they don't NEED to do anything.
And even then, your point falls further when there are several rappers
who make content that speak on problems.
This isn't isolated to one or two rappers, we're talking about guys that
are pretty well known within Hip Hop.

You realized rappers doing the als challenge instead of ridin for mike brown meant hiphop has no heroes and they have sold the fukk out to become corporate house nikkas.

We all realized the new generation doesn't stand for a damn thing and all that tough talk is only directed at other black people and not their mortal enemy these white supremacists.

David banner and Talib kweli.

Everyone else silent minus that song.......

Now it's back to killing black people and reminding other black people they are worthless.

I guess Talib and Cole weren't riding...despite you know...actually being out there.

 

[Wild self]

No, they don't NEED to do anything.
And even then, your point falls further when there are several rappers
who make content that speak on problems.
This isn't isolated to one or two rappers, we're talking about guys that
are pretty well known within Hip Hop.



I guess Talib and Cole weren't riding...despite you know...actually being out there.

Speaking about is is just the first step. Making videos and great songs as singles and promoting it on worldstarhiphop and BET is the next major step to address the issue.

 

[Insensitive]

Speaking about is is just the first step. Making videos and great songs as singles and promoting it on worldstarhiphop and BET is the next major step to address the issue.

No.
The next major step to "address the issue"
would be people getting off their asses and
doing what's right by their community instead of
waiting for rappers to do it for them.
Another "major step" would be to stop generalizing
black people as a bunch of World Star Hip Hop,
BET watching zombies who can't differentiate between
entertainment and reality.

 

[definition]

Ok to the white brethren

Why do you think your elders enjoy perpetuating the lowest form of African culture?

Why do your elders enjoy enhancing and marketing images they are "afraid" of?

I appreciate your feedback back most whites don't internalize what they know to be just entertainment.

The negative images that lower a major piece of the black demographic are perceived SOLEY by whites as just entertainment

But

They lower our self esteem.. Ignorant children turn around emulate the trash they see. They give life to tired stereotypes that ultimately keep this system or industry in place.

So please my white brethren speak on this. How do you all sleep at night knowing and understanding the direct and indirect impact it has on the souls and psyche of black folks?


Please less focus on the art and more on the owners. I want your honest view

This is where we might differ. I don't think label owners and marketers "enjoy" anything except making money. So, if the lowest common denominator is what sells, that's what they're going to push. There may be an agenda -- but I really believe the market responds to the agenda. I'm no fan of Ailes/Murdoch, but I'd be kidding myself if I thought they wouldn't push Fox news for liberals if they thought they'd have buyers.

Now, I do think the "owners" are willing to let a lot happen, as long as they're making money. that's why they became owners. Because they don't give a fukk about anything except the bottom line.

If you think the "owners" are pushing artists to try and perpetuate an image of black males as "scary" to whites, then I'll have to re-think this whole thing. If the owners are pushing that persona, it's probably because the white youth are still buying into it - probably to piss off their parents. (my poor kids aren't so lucky - I try to introduce them to rap and punk rock almost daily. they'll have to rebel by loving celine dion or something)

But, you have raised a good question -- if the owners are making money by pushing the lowest common denominator ... should conscious people still be buying in to that particular culture? If I buy a rap album (which I don't - I buy old records, mostly used), am i perpetuating something I'm against?

 

[Wild self]

No.
The next major step to "address the issue"
would be people getting off their asses and
doing what's right by their community instead of
waiting for rappers to do it for them.
Another "major step" would be to stop generalizing
black people as a bunch of World Star Hip Hop,
BET watching zombies who can't differentiate between
entertainment and reality.

That too, but we live in 2014 where people worship rappers like gods. More people that get active in actual protesting, by any means, the better off we be.

 

[up in here]

Hip-hop is not to blame for people making judgements based on stereotypes that person holds. however, the value of Black life in this country is extremely low, and hip-hop definitely plays a part in that.

 

[Insensitive]

That too, but we live in 2014 where people worship rappers like gods. More people that get active in actual protesting, by any means, the better off we be.

There is no way you can prove that either Black people or just the general
public worships rappers like gods.
I'd go as far as to say, it's false and screams what you personally
feel about black people.

 

[Wild self]

There is no way you can prove that either Black people or just the general
public worships rappers like gods.
I'd go as far as to say, it's false and screams what you personally
feel about black people.

I ain't a CAC, but I know that many young people in general are brainwashed and duped. More numbers = more attention and demands,