Poll: is Texas the south?

Is Texas the south

  • Yes

    Votes: 274 85.1%
  • No

    Votes: 48 14.9%

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To be frank, those artists don't sound like the locals. I lived in Bowie as well. DC and PG nikkas got a specific drawl that Wale, Logic and Goldlink don't have. But if you live here, you know that's a PG nikka or a DC nikka.

Michael Vick, A.I. and Plaxico all got a Tidewater accent that Pharrell, Teddy Riley and Missy don't have. Same for Chicago and Common, Lupe. They don't sound like Chief Keef and them which is way more common if I actually went to that side of town

Sports stars tend to have the lingo more than the artist who have always been different.

Being that Common and Lupe are older than Chief Keef I originally thought Chief Keef was trolling with his speech.

Also when Chief Keef speaks regularly his “drawl” drops down significantly.



^^case in point Lil Reese accent sounds deeper than Chief Keef when they talking normal.

As a matter of fact Lil Reese seems to have a hardcore Chicago accent.
 

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I lived in NOVA. A large part could be considered the mid Atlantic which is a different mindset and culture than the South completely but let's not be mistaken. Take your ass to Manassas and it will feel like the the deep south quick! We confuse Fairfax county and Loudoun with all of NOVA when it's not the case. That said, most of NOVA doesn't look, act or behave like the South.

Central Virginia is culturally very Southern. What are you talking about? And obviously the same is true for the Tidewater area as well as Richmond.

DC doesn't feel southern but obviously Black folks who are multiple generation locals tend to be more Southern but they aren't the norm. The norm is it's a liberal ass Mid Atlantic city on avg.

I wouldn't call it North. Mid Atlantic is a different set of ideals and standards. Maryland don't function like New York state or even Pennsylvania

The Mid-Atlantic had a historically different definition than it does today. Today, and has been the case for decades now, the Mid-Atlantic is essentially the areas that are tied into traditionally Chesapeake Bay culture. That isn't a culture completely different from the South, if anything, it's a uniquely southern culture...

Because the Mid-Atlantic also includes areas that are part of the traditional M/A, it isn't a solely southern subculture. It's a transitional blend of both North and South on the East Coast...

When I first moved to the East Coast as a child, we moved to SW DC, then to Woodbridge. So I'm familiar with NoVa...

DC naturally grows magnolia trees and other southern vegetation that can't naturally grow further north, climactically. To say DC doesn't look or feel southern at all would be false when I can see shyt there I would never see in Buffalo, Boston, even Philly. I do think DC today is more characteristically northern than southern, but this idea DC isn't southern at all is only thought by people who don't know what they are looking at or listening to...

There's more examples of "the South" in DC besides this....

Nothing in NoVa is reminiscent of the Deep South. South, for sure, but "deep" south? Hell nah...

Virginia is a speed trap state, notoriously so, they earn more money from ticketing speeders than almost anywhere. That's not indicative of racism, though I'm sure an element of racially profiling exists. I lived there and consider myself a Virginian though I'm not a native, and got two tickets but never felt profiled...

Richmond is southern but different from virtually any other place in the South you can name---->unless you include Baltimore, DC, or Norfolk in your southern definition. Richmond has more in common with all three of those cities than any other city you can name in the entire rest of the South...

Rich will never not have its history, that shyt is in the books, and that's the main reason people call it southern. And because of its history, the city will always have some strong southern indicators that won't disappear. But it's currently (and has been for at least 15-20 years) undergoing the same cultural shift and transformation that DC and Baltimore, two historically southern cities, went through before it...

Here's the kicker, the reality is that there is hundreds of years that tie Bmore--DC--Rich together culturally, and these areas were always different from the rest of the South. If we could all go back in time 200-300 years, while southern, these areas were probably always different. Baltimore and DC are larger and were hit with the cultural shift sooner, it's just spread to Richmond now and if we're alive 35-40 years from now, there will be entire generations of Americans who will find it hard to relate anything southern about Rich besides its history---->the same way there's a generation of Americans today who don't view Baltimore or DC as southern despite southern characteristics still present in and around both...
 

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The Mid-Atlantic had a historically different definition than it does today. Today, and has been the case for decades now, the Mid-Atlantic is essentially the areas that are tied into traditionally Chesapeake Bay culture. That isn't a culture completely different from the South, if anything, it's a uniquely southern culture...

Because the Mid-Atlantic also includes areas that are part of the traditional M/A, it isn't a solely southern subculture. It's a transitional blend of both North and South on the East Coast...

When I first moved to the East Coast as a child, we moved to SW DC, then to Woodbridge. So I'm familiar with NoVa...

DC naturally grows magnolia trees and other southern vegetation that can't naturally grow further north, climactically. To say DC doesn't look or feel southern at all would be false when I can see shyt there I would never see in Buffalo, Boston, even Philly. I do think DC today is more characteristically northern than southern, but this idea DC isn't southern at all is only thought by people who don't know what they are looking at or listening to...

There's more examples of "the South" in DC besides this....

Nothing in NoVa is reminiscent of the Deep South. South, for sure, but "deep" south? Hell nah...

Virginia is a speed trap state, notoriously so, they earn more money from ticketing speeders than almost anywhere. That's not indicative of racism, though I'm sure an element of racially profiling exists. I lived there and consider myself a Virginian though I'm not a native, and got two tickets but never felt profiled...

Richmond is southern but different from virtually any other place in the South you can name---->unless you include Baltimore, DC, or Norfolk in your southern definition. Richmond has more in common with all three of those cities than any other city you can name in the entire rest of the South...

Rich will never not have its history, that shyt is in the books, and that's the main reason people call it southern. And because of its history, the city will always have some strong southern indicators that won't disappear. But it's currently (and has been for at least 15-20 years) undergoing the same cultural shift and transformation that DC and Baltimore, two historically southern cities, went through before it...

Here's the kicker, the reality is that there is hundreds of years that tie Bmore--DC--Rich together culturally, and these areas were always different from the rest of the South. If we could all go back in time 200-300 years, while southern, these areas were probably always different. Baltimore and DC are larger and were hit with the cultural shift sooner, it's just spread to Richmond now and if we're alive 35-40 years from now, there will be entire generations of Americans who will find it hard to relate anything southern about Rich besides its history---->the same way there's a generation of Americans today who don't view Baltimore or DC as southern despite southern characteristics still present in and around both...
You wrote a lot and I've agreed with very little. If you been to Woodbridge, you know it's a lot different than Fairfax or Annandale. I also don't know if you have experience throughout the South. Savannah doesn't feel like Atlanta. Jacksonville doesn't feel like Orlando. All of these cities are different.

What is your definition of deep south? Because Virginia is clearly in it for me. If it's all about the boonies, none of the big cities in the South are like the boonies. Even Jackson, MS.
 

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You wrote a lot and I've agreed with very little. If you been to Woodbridge, you know it's a lot different than Fairfax or Annandale. I also don't know if you have experience throughout the South. Savannah doesn't feel like Atlanta. Jacksonville doesn't feel like Orlando. All of these cities are different.

What is your definition of deep south? Because Virginia is clearly in it for me. If it's all about the boonies, none of the big cities in the South are like the boonies. Even Jackson, MS.

I don't have a strict definition of the Deep South. I know that under no definition should Northern Virginia be included. Geographically the midpoint of the East Coast is somewhere in that ~7-mile stretch between Emporia, Virginia, and the VA/NC state line. It's impossible to be "deeply" southern from a geographical vantage if you are anywhere north of that line...

There aren't deeply southern accents in NoVa, and there is too much cultural crossover with neighboring regions...

I once lived in Memphis. That area and the surrounding Mid-South is Deep South. Everything about it. That NW Mississippi Delta is Deep South. I'd say that parts of East Carolina and SW Virginia and WV and Arkansas, all places I'm familiar with, qualify...

Northern Virginia is within a border area and for that alone can't be seen as deeply southern...

Where are you from? This may explain your point of view more concisely...
 
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I don't have a strict definition of the Deep South. I know that under no definition should Northern Virginia be included. Geographically the midpoint of the East Coast is somewhere in that ~7-mile stretch between Emporia, Virginia, and the VA/NC state line. It's impossible to be "deeply" southern from a geographical vantage if you are anywhere north of that line...

There aren't deeply southern accents in NoVa, and there is too much cultural crossover with neighboring regions...

I once lived in Memphis. That area and the surrounding Mid-South is Deep South. Everything about it. That NW Mississippi Delta is Deep South. I'd say that parts of East Carolina and SW Virginia and WV and Arkansas, all places I'm familiar with, qualify...

Northern Virginia is within a border area and for that alone can't be seen as deeply southern...

Where are you from? This may explain your point of view more concisely...
The South. BIG GA. It's definitely the deep south to me. Religious wise especially
 

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"The South" is Upper FL/GA/MS/AL/AR/LA/SC/NC/TN and Texas only around Houston. That is it. Kentucky and VA ain't "The South". :manny:
 
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