Poll: is Texas the south?

[Supper]

What a goof! Making up stuff

^^^Now, this people is a real life walking, talking, example of what I meant.

I don't want mfs like this in my city who think they have the right to appropriate the local AA urban culture of the city they happen to reside in, yet disrespect the AA heritage where it comes from and wave foreign flags around it, because they have black skin.

AADOS houstonians need to make it clear that houston black urban culture comes from and belongs to it's AADOS population, and that others are just participants. And to be a participant you have to respect it and us.

Thank you, patty, for the demonstration.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

^^^Now, this people is a real life walking, talking, example of what I meant.

I don't want mfs like this in my city who think they have the right to appropriate the local AA urban culture that they happen to reside in, yet disrespect the AA heritage where it comes from and wave foreign flags around it, because they have black skin.

AADOS houstonians need to make it clear that houston black urban culture comes from and belongs to it's AADOS population, and that others are just participants. And to be a participant you have to respect it and us.

Thank you, patty, for the demonstration.

I can go to your city whenever the F I want and do what I want and talk to who I want.



who the F are you coli poster?


Stop making BS up about cultures you aren’t familiar with.

and last but not least a person who is born in your town legally is immediately part of your town wether you like it or not you delusional retard!

 

[UberEatsDriver]

I’ve never waved a Haitian flag in my life but if I ever do go to Houston I really want to wave a Haitian flag and would dare a fool like @Supper to do something about it

 

[Supper]

and last but not least a person who is born in your town legally is immediately part of your town wether you like it or not you delusional retard!

Just cuz you born in a city don't make you apart of the local AADOS community or culture. If that's the case why don't you claim the local NYC italian american culture?

I’ve never waved a Haitian flag in my life but if I ever do go to Houston I really want to wave a Haitian flag and would dare a fool like @Supper to do something about it

Check this out.

You wave anything in my face and Imma snatch that cum rag right outcha hand, stomp on that bytch, and smack the dandruff outcho crusty ass head.

Welcome to H-town.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Just cuz you born in a city don't make you apart of the local AADOS community or culture. If that's the case why don't you claim the local NYC italian american culture?



Check this out.

You wave anything in my face and Imma snatch that cum rag right outcha hand, stomp on that bytch, and smack the dandruff outcho head.

Welcome to H-town.

You ain’t going to do shyt just like you don’t do shyt now lol.

And FYI ain’t nothing flat or erased about AAs in NYC or Florida.

Dumb ass c00n!

And I don’t care about being part of no damn ADOS community but I do know I’m black, I’m American and I’ll slap you in the face on sight.

 

[Supper]

You ain’t going to do shyt just like you don’t do shyt now lol.

And FYI ain’t nothing flat or erased about AAs in NYC or Florida.

Dumb ass c00n!

And I don’t care about being part of no damn ADOS community but I do know I’m black, I’m American and I’ll slap you in the face on sight.

Yet, a fellow AADOS from NYC just confirmed to me what I said in our convo before you butted your head in it. And i said the tristate, not nyc.

And if the whole hip hop being invented by a Jamaican/Kool Herc myth and scandal ain't a clear example of appropriation and erasure, then I don't know what is.

See that's the problem withchall non ados. Y'all always wanna be involved in some ados bidness when you weren't invited.

So, I mean hey, patty, less you plan on doin what u said, actually comin down here, and makin it do what it do, ain't no point in you quoting me or you even bein in this thread trollin when you 1. Ain't from TX 2. Ain't a southerner, and 3. Ain't even Ados be to havin a discussion about our heritage.

Anything else just shows how obsessed you are with us, and I can't get with you on that feminine shyt, sorry. Go follow someone else around.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Yet, a fellow AADOS from NYC just confirmed to me what I said in our convo before you butted your head in it. And i said the tristate, not nyc.

And if the whole hip hop being invented by a Jamaican/Kool Herc myth and scandal ain't a clear example of appropriation and erasure, then I don't know what is.

See that's the problem withchall non ados. Y'all always wanna be involved in some ados bidness when you weren't invited.

So, I mean hey, patty, less you plan on doin what u said, actually comin down here, and makin it do what it do, ain't no point in you quoting me or you even bein in this thread trollin when you 1. Ain't from TX 2. Ain't a southerner, and 3. Ain't even Ados be to havin a discussion about our heritage.

Anything else just shows how obsessed you are with us, and I can't get with you on that feminine shyt, sorry. Go follow someone else around.

Shut yo idiot ass up. AAs in Florida and NYC are from a 100 % AAs who have their own community End of story.

The only AAs who are a bit diluted are the ones who have West Indian blood or Puerto Rican blood. The end!

Kool Herc myth?



this thread is about Texas not ADOS culture. Your dumb ass just brought that up out of nowhere creating some optical illusion division amongst blacks.

 

[invalid]

Another variation. Not bad either.

Yeah, I didn’t like this variation because of the classification of upper/lower Midwest and the Great Lakes classification. Ohio, Pennyslvania and New York, although bordering, are not even associated with Great Lakes culture which is very similar to Cape Cod and even the Maine Coast outside of the lakeside industrial cities. I think the first distinction that breaks down the Midwest by the Great Lakes and Great Rivers is more appropriate.

It is the distinction between this part of the Midwest and it’s culture....

And this part of the Midwest and it’s culture.....


Minnesota -

Upper Peninsula -

Wisconsin -

Illinois -

Indiana -

Michigan -

The accents are even different around the Great Lakes than other parts of the Midwest. Accents start to sound southern only 2 hours south out of Chicago.

If they combine the granularity of the Great Lakes region in the first rendering and the granularity of the South in the second rendering, I would say that it would be accurate.

 

[invalid]

Just went through this thread, and saw where cowboys, cowboy hats, and the cowboy culture was looked at as a Texas thing and not practiced anywhere else in the South. Here’s some links that show different:
Meet the Cowboys and Cowgirls of the Rural Mississippi Delta

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p07qcdvs/the-black-cowboys-of-the-mississippi-delta

yeah the vast majority of Houston's black population is ados. Non-Ados black population is Nigerian with a scattering from Honduras (2nd or 3rd largest Garifuna population in the US) and Trinidadian. But it's not significant.

As far as the Cowboy thing. I do think people underestimate how much of it is practiced in the other southern states. It's just popularized in Texas more so than the Southeast. They do trail rides in Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas.

And the Great Migration brought black cowboy culture up to Chicago. Obviously not as big as anywhere in the south but there is a thriving subculture here.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

yeah the vast majority of Houston's black population is ados. Non-Ados black population is Nigerian with a scattering from Honduras (2nd or 3rd largest Garifuna population in the US) and Trinidadian. But it's not significant.

As far as the Cowboy thing. I do think people underestimate how much of it is practiced in the other southern states. It's just popularized in Texas more so than the Southeast. They do trail rides in Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas.

Yea, there’s black rodeos all throughout the Deep South. I know of some in MS, AL, and FL. Here in GA, I used to frequent Home Depot often for supplies to maintain my home. Everytime id go in there on a Saturday morning, I’d run into these 4 Black “cowboys” who were there either buying material for their farm, or other household items. They’d be decked in worn cowboy boots and 10 gallon hats.

It was funny, because everytime I’d have a conversation with them, they’d let me know they were just here in the city for supplies. Their farm was out in the sticks somewhere.

 

[invalid]

Trust me, black folk in OKC consider themselves midwesterners.

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If anything OKC is part Great Plains part South. Nowhere near the Midwest.

shyt. Missouri thinks it’s the Midwest. Missourah is the gotdamn south.

 

[Supper]

Shut yo idiot ass up. AAs in Florida and NYC are from a 100 % AAs who have their own community End of story.

The only AAs who are a bit diluted are the ones who have West Indian blood or Puerto Rican blood. The end!

Kool Herc myth?



this thread is about Texas not ADOS culture. Your dumb ass just brought that up out of nowhere creating some optical illusion division amongst blacks.

ANYTHING having to due with the south is going to implicitly involve ADOS heritage and culture. Because, the two are inextricably linked together. So, I got every right to highlight ADOS hertiage in a conversation about the southerness of a southern state, especially on a majority black site.

Otherwise it'd be like have a convo about the history island of Hispaniola and expecting to only have to deal with the history and heritage of Spanish Santo Domingo and DR 1844-current.

 

[Supper]

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If anything OKC is a part of the Great Plains. Nowhere near the Midwest.

Subregion of the Midwest to me, patna.

Aye, if we gotta claim Appalachia even though that ain't got shyt to due with my ass way in SE Texas, y'all finna claim them plains.



They say midwest.

shyt. Missouri thinks it’s the Midwest. Missourah is the gotdamn south.

See now I'd be willing concede a lil bit on OK. But this........

I mean, I've said that we should adopt STL as a joke, but hell nah. They are a city built off people descended from late 19th and early 20th century catholic european immigrants and great migration AAs. Not protestant rednecks of colonial era irish, scottish, and english stock and local AA slaves like a true southern city.

Have you heard KCMO nikkas talk with them nasally extra enunciated r vowels? They be sounding like Cali nikkas. lol


Texas nikka - Hop in the cah.

Cali/KCMO nikka - Hop in the cOOOOAARR

 

[Biscayne]

lol Bro, ZZ Top is a straight up blues-rock musician influenced by the music of mostly black blues artist, especially Texas blues artist like Lightnin Hopkins and Albert Collins who both played out of Houston, not a country musician whatsoever. Dude even takes influence from local Houston rap. Iono who told you he was a country musician.

In and Out ain't actually in Houston. It's in the the suburbs of Katy and Stafford, where yes, a lot of transplants live. Just like Atlanta suburbs have NY based restaurant chains like Ruby Tuesdays.

Having a strong state identity and pride doesn't take away from the southerness of the place. People from Louisiana, especially southern Louisiana, have a very strong state identity, and'll holla Louisiana before being southern. And people from New Orleans?!?!? They might as well be in a completely diff country according to them. They're New Orleanians first and foremost before anything.

Even in the whitest areas of New Orleans, they don't be flying no confederate flags. They fly that Gold and Black crescent symbol looking thing and rep those gold, purple, and green mardi gras colors.

Yet and still none of them are under any illusion about not being louisianians or southern nor is anyone else. Same thing in Texas. Our state has a unique history that we're proud of(that black texans were very much apart of), but they doesn't make us any less southern.

And while Texas ain't as southern as GA overall. Don't underestimate it's southernness as it's still home to more historic all black freedmens towns and settlements than any other state. Houston proper is home to at least 11 of these which were built from the ground up by freed slaves and their children, and are lined with homes built in the traditional AA shotgun style. I know Atlanta has some, but I'm pretty sure they don't have as many.

And like I said the vast majority of black transplants in Houston are from other places in the south mostly Louisiana and other places in Texas just like it's always been. California may be the origin of most of the NORTHERN black transplants, but not overall.

The urbanization of ATL and the decrease of Southern Shotgun style homes in ATL, isn't much of an indication of it's decrease of its Southern culture. The architecture of Atlanta is very common in the Upper South and Piedmont. ATL is very similar to Charlotte. Both cities are just culturally in tune with the South as Houston is.

Like I've said before the black cowboy culture in Texas is derived from the Carolina drover tradition + Florida Cracker/Seminole + SW Louisiana cattle driving industry.

The black seminoles represent a CLEAR direct line between FL & TX black cowboys. Many of our famous black texas cowboys were black seminoles, like Bill Kelley.

yeah the vast majority of Houston's black population is ados. Non-Ados black population is Nigerian with a scattering from Honduras (2nd or 3rd largest Garifuna population in the US) and Trinidadian. But it's not significant.

As far as the Cowboy thing. I do think people underestimate how much of it is practiced in the other southern states. It's just popularized in Texas more so than the Southeast. They do trail rides in Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas.

The reasoning for this, was because of Texas trying to dissociate from Ante bellum history via cattle herding and cattle trails. Being a "Cowboy" was looked down upon by Southern aristocrats back East. After the civil war, heading towards texas and the lower Midwest was the logical thing to do for many freed slaves, poor whites and others. All of a sudden, cattle driving was the "in" thing. That's where the romanticism of the cowboy came into play in subsequent years and in the years after reconstruction. Romanticism of "The West" and new beginnings became associated with Texas, Cattle Driving, and oil. But alot of the cowboy culture also derived from the Vaquero culture. From Mexico and from Spain before that. Even older Cowboy lingo like "Buccaroo" is the b*stardized version of "Vaquero". Florida was a Spanish colony. And alot of the architecture from that era remains. The crackers were influenced by the Spaniards..

Vaquero - Wikipedia

 

[Spade]

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If anything OKC is part Great Plains part South. Nowhere near the Midwest.

shyt. Missouri thinks it’s the Midwest. Missourah is the gotdamn south.

To be real, outside of Boothill, most of Missouri has little in common with the South.