POLIGHT TAKING ON THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY

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I gave me opinion on him because this is a message board where we discuss things and there's a thread about him. In that context, I'm doing my duty: namely calling out bullshyt and charlatantry.

The onus is on you to prove that Polight and others are having a positive net effect on black people as a whole that outweighs the negativity of the obvious lies and pseudoscience he's espousing while taking money from the people he's claiming to uplift. When you can do that, holler at me. Until then, I'll call bullshyt and charlatanry what it is.

I don't know too much about the guy. I'm just watching the videos and they're full of nonsense. Let's say that he's somehow providing this economic upliftment you're claiming. What is he saying or doing that cannot be obtained at the library, on the internet, at a money-management seminar, or by other mentors and leaders in communities?

He's obviously a self-serving charlatan with his own agenda seeking personal profit and glory, who probably doesn't even believe a lot of the shyt he's saying, and even if he does, it's still mostly crap, just like "Dr." York, or that white dude on BET selling the magic prayer cloths.

He's doing damage by misleading people into cult-worship and fostering a dogmatic anti-scientific, anti-academic mindset, which has long been poisonous in the black underclass.

Again, why isn't he urging people to pursue STEM education which is the most obvious path toward economic success? Probably because he knows if they did, they'd be too smart and perceptive to believe his bullshyt anymore and he couldn't make anymore money exploiting them.

He and others like him are poverty pimps vulturing off the lack of education and economic deprivation present in the hood that is oppressing people and keeping them stuck there. I do not have to respect cult leaders and I will call it like I see it, sorry.


As I stated earlier, you may not have to respect it, like it or agree with it but the effectiveness of those type of methods can't be argued. Those same methods are what pushed us into the modern society as we know it, except our people weren't the ones doing the leading and teaching. White people used it and it instilled pride, power, freedom, and money into their very hands...yet no one has a problem with how they garnered the respect of creating institutions etc.

My point is you have to start somewhere & some of these dudes are trying. These guys could inspire the next Garvey, Dubious, or X...you never know. You have to let seeds grow.

The thing about Polight is that dude has somehow managed to 'handle' like 3 blackwomen all living in the same house & they respect him as a man. I didn't see any neck rolling, finger wagging, or finger snapping from any of them. :pachaha: His women look good & are in shape. His kids seem to know how to behave themselves in public. He also speaks HIGHLY of his women. Do I agree with his ideology no but I do respect him for manning his house. That's way better than the scores of families growing up without a father, women & kids with no man around and watching these moms try to be the next WSHH star. If dudes were just doing that in the hood we wouldn't have as nearly as many problems that we face now.

All these dudes talking bout 'kill whitey' are stupid and shouldn't be listened to at all but I haven't heard Polight talkin bout that. Maybe I haven't watch enough videos on him though :heh:
 
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Like I said earlier in the thread...



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You are obviously made very uncomfortable by the fact that you liken yourself as a "master teacher" and I am more educated and knowledgeable than you.



lol..."sparred"?

Again, I cast no aspersions on anyone for taking a stand against racial inequality, nor did I say dude is white.

I said he's an ignorant buffoon just inarticulately ranting about hating crackers and he obvious has a great deal of white DNA himself. I think it's funny because he's shytting on himself to some extent and seems indicative of some of type of self-hate or inferior complex.

I'm not sure why you're so butthurt and what you keep :cape: for over a simple innocuous comment expressing the finding of humor in this for. And these comparisons to Malcolm X are just :snoop:



I know a little something about genetics, as all the regular posters here dating back years to the sohh days can attest to. Got a B+ in Genetics when I took in college. What about you?

:heh:@skin color having nothing to do with race. "Race" is a socially constructed concept used to categorize and classify people who share geographical origin and phenotypical characteristics. Skin color is obviously one of those phenotypical characteristics.





Almost everybody is "mixed" to some extent or another, particularly black Americans, and both Josh Freeman and Seti are obviously both pretty mixed.

Just because Josh Freeman has one white parent and Seti's parents are both black doesn't mean Seti isn't mixed, dummy. Obviously one of both of Seti's parents are mixed to a pretty good extent.

Are you related to Art Barr?


There's links on this very site to podcasts where I debate with other posters here, every single one of them more intellectually formidable than Polight.

The problem with you konsciousness clowns is you view debate as some kinda dikk-measuring ego-fest of performance art where you battle and compete with each other for kudos, when sensible people know debate is about the free flow and sharing of information from the parties involved in order to provide potential insight and usable knowledge to the participants and listeners.

A guy like Polight is not even worthy of debate to anybody with any sort of education because anybody who is educated and learned such as myself knows he is utterly lacking in education and has no clue what the fukk he's talking about.

A "debate" between me and him wouldn't even be that because I'd be shooting at a 10 foot goal and he'd be dunking on a 7 foot goal.

So as far as who would "win" it would depend on what criteria you're basing it on. If you're judging it based on who could put on a more entertaining performance with dynamic delivery of stringing together a bunch of nonsense and random factoids and prepackaged memorized talking points that don't mean anything rapid fire-style, he's your winner.

If it's about actually debating substantively about issues using logic and facts, I win in a 1994 Undertaker vs. Barry Horowitz squash match.

Your a clown.

You say someone lacks knowledge and facts, yet you yourself fail as providing knowledge and facts.

You wanna make fun of my engineer background like its some kind of impossible feat
It's called an internship dawg did it a long time ago, just because you wasted your life doing absolutely nothing don't make mistake thinking everybody else has as well.

you say polight's worthy of debate but coli posters are :what:

you should easily be able to make him look like a fool in front of a group people being that your educated at all that:skip:

the truth is your a coward, you can only ramble of madness on a message board instead of proving your metal
 

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The BLACKMAN should be anti-academic. The Caucspiracy does NOT want you to KNOW that the word academic in Latin means GAY AGENDA. The Honorable Minister Brigadier General 367th degree Freemason Dr. Malachi Zechariah Sitchin York Ph. D, LLC, triple black belt and board-certified speech therapist TAUGHT us valuable lessons about the ALIENS we will encounter when piloting the MOTHER WHEEL. "Men In Black" was ORIGINALLY just "Men, Black." Knowledge IS power.

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Your a clown.

You say someone lacks knowledge and facts, yet you yourself fail as providing knowledge and facts.

You wanna make fun of my engineer background like its some kind of impossible feat
It's called an internship dawg did it a long time ago, just because you wasted your life doing absolutely nothing don't make mistake thinking everybody else has as well.

you say polight's worthy of debate but coli posters are :what:

you should easily be able to make him look like a fool in front of a group people being that your educated at all that:skip:

the truth is your a coward, you can only ramble of madness on a message board instead of proving your metal


Polights not worthy of debate, but coli posters are. :whoo: :deadmanny:
 
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As I stated earlier, you may not have to respect it, like it or agree with it but the effectiveness of those type of methods can't be argued. Those same methods are what pushed us into the modern society as we know it, except our people weren't the ones doing the leading and teaching. White people used it and it instilled pride, power, freedom, and money into their very hands...yet no one has a problem with how they garnered the respect of creating institutions etc.

I'm not sure what methods you're referring too. Spewing pseudointellectual nonsense, presenting yourself as a demagogue and selling lectures, books, and DVDs to poor, undereducated people who could be using that time and money toward keeping their heads above water or investing something tangible? Nah.

My point is you have to start somewhere & some of these dudes are trying. These guys could inspire the next Garvey, Dubious, or X...you never know. You have to let seeds grow.

Start somewhere? Black people have been in this country for 400 years bruh. We started a long time ago. The objective now is to catch up and keep pace.

The problem is you're still thinking like it's the 50's or 60's. There will never be another Garvey, DuBois or X. The world is different now. There isn't colored only water fountains and KKKs coming to burn down your house anymore. The hindrances now are a structural racism that manifests itself in a socioeconomic inequality in employment, housing, healthcare, education, and criminal justice.

There is a large culturally, ethnically, socioeconomically, and ideologically diverse black population and this black nationalist/black supremacist rhetoric will only appeal to a tiny segment of the black diaspora and gain no traction.

There will be no more black nationalist leaders. The leaders of today will be leaders of their own lives and personal autonomy, and will lead by their own existence as doctors, engineers, lawyers, scientists, teachers, lawmakers, academics, accountants, philanthropists, etc.

So it's good to be a community organizer or leader trying to rally the people. But the goal should be primarily how to get people adequate opportunity via education and employment and foster a mindset conducive to that.

I'm not seeing anything in videos but a bunch of dynamic speaking presentation and black supremacist nonsense that does nothing positive to anybody and actually inhibits critical thinking.

Do you think people who made it up from poverty got there via education, learning skills, and being productive assets in their professions, or did they get there by thinking they were super-powered melanin having alien descendents who built pyramids and wearing kufis and dashikis? I'll let you tell it.

The thing about Polight is that dude has somehow managed to 'handle' like 3 blackwomen all living in the same house & they respect him as a man. I didn't see any neck rolling, finger wagging, or finger snapping from any of them. :pachaha: His women look good & are in shape. His kids seem to know how to behave themselves in public. He also speaks HIGHLY of his women. Do I agree with his ideology no but I do respect him for manning his house. That's way better than the scores of families growing up without a father, women & kids with no man around and watching these moms try to be the next WSHH star. If dudes were just doing that in the hood we wouldn't have as nearly as many problems that we face now.

You don't know what his family life is behind closed doors though. Anybody will put on a good show in front of his camera. His family life may be pristine, but we don't know that and we don't know will happen down the road.

However, polygamy as community norm is certainly not a good thing for the black community here. If it works for him cool. But that obviously isn't a blueprint that's going to work for the collective. It's basic math. There's not enough men to all have multiple wives. And juxtaposing polygamy as a binary choice vs. single motherhood with multiples kids gives it no credence.

Cult leaders often tend to be polygamists. I'm sure Warren Jeffs' wives played their part in front of the camera too. We know at least one of his wives is one of the York's daughters. She's obviously pretty damaged...I'd imagine the other 3 probably are too.

But the fact is most black women ain't hearing that nonsense and never will, nor should they. The same could be said about black men and women when it comes to all the other shyt he's saying.
 

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Your a clown.

I love to debate and I've had quite a few exchanges with these smartdumb type dudes and I always challenge their ideas bluntly, which they're not used to, and the response is always anger like "How dare you tell me this knowledge I define myself by is not true!"

:manny:

You say someone lacks knowledge and facts, yet you yourself fail as providing knowledge and facts.
You wanna make fun of my engineer background like its some kind of impossible feat

I laughed at you bragging about supposedly being an apprentice to some dude who worked on Thriller, not supposedly being a sound engineer in itself. Regardless of the merit of it, that was a pretty hilarious thing to brag about. And I wasn't the only poster who found it funny.

And I pointed out that stuff you were claiming about people having personal vibrational frequencies unique and specific to them and the bullshyt Polight was talking is easily debunked pseudoscience.

It's called an internship dawg did it a long time ago, just because you wasted your life doing absolutely nothing don't make mistake thinking everybody else has as well.

You're basing this claim on...?

you say polight's worthy of debate but coli posters are :what:

you should easily be able to make him look like a fool in front of a group people being that your educated at all that:skip:

Yes I did. Myself and many of the other posters here who have been on podcasts would air that buffoon out because regardless of their opinions, they are mostly rooted in reality and Polight is not rooted in reality. He lives in alternate universe of his own creation in which the physical laws of the universe don't apply due to his lack of education and self-serving charlatanry.

the truth is your a coward, you can only ramble of madness on a message board instead of proving your metal

lol...yeah, I guess I should quit my job and ramble about plagiarized, mystical :duck: in a dashiki on street corners for money to prove my mettle (not metal) to people I'm economically exploiting.
 

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I still regard myself as a student, not an intellectual, but I'm sure I would air him out on a number of subjects- as would many other people with a college degree and decent academic awareness.

Sad that when I (and others) post articles and essays by or threads about real Black intellectuals, they get very few views and responses, but let someone come in here kicking pseudoscience and basic shyt, y'all praise him and call him some kind of scholar.

I can't say I don't respect his intentions (some of them- all that polygamy and cult leader behavior is suspicious to me,) but he needs to step it up if he wants to guide the hood in a serious way.

lol, you low key think of yourself as an intellectual. And "guiding the hood" in a serious way is about money and education - Polight encourages both.

Also, when someone post about a guy like this, It's YOU all that make the thread pop due to the criticisms and clowning. Others discuss it without 100% agreeing with every viewpoint, but not every one co-signs dudes like Polight.

If I or anyone else, post something about a black or white intellect or scientist you guys hardly post in those threads
 

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Do people with non black fathers go hardest against polight?

its really the liberals that are getting a heart attack over polight, these are the same people that swear that the black man is doomed if you dont vote for the democratic party and encourage the pussification of the black man
 
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I laughed at you bragging about supposedly being an apprentice to some dude who worked on Thriller, not supposedly being a sound engineer in itself. Regardless of the merit of it, that was a pretty hilarious thing to brag about. And I wasn't the only poster who found it funny.

And I pointed out that stuff you were claiming about people having personal vibrational frequencies unique and specific to them and the bullshyt Polight was talking is easily debunked pseudoscience.



You're basing this claim on...?



Yes I did. Myself and many of the other posters here who have been on podcasts would air that buffoon out because regardless of their opinions, they are mostly rooted in reality and Polight is not rooted in reality. He lives in alternate universe of his own creation in which the physical laws of the universe don't apply due to his lack of education and self-serving charlatanry.



lol...yeah, I guess I should quit my job and ramble about plagiarized, mystical :duck: in a dashiki on street corners for money to prove my mettle (not metal) to people I'm economically exploiting.

who said I was bragging, I was stating a fact. I've worked in professional recording studios and I have a degree in Recording Engineering
I've studied sound for many years and I understand what Polight was saying
while your trying to pass it off as if I don't know what I'm talking about.

Who said you had to quit your job to debate somebody your just making excuses now. I said I'd pay for the debate, I wanna see Polight go up against somebody who think he's BS and full of shyt. You claim to be an intellectual of untouchable levels, I wanna see you expose him

if you can
 

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who said I was bragging, I was stating a fact. I've worked in professional recording studios and I have a degree in Recording Engineering
I've studied sound for many years and I understand what Polight was saying
while your trying to pass it off as if I don't know what I'm talking about.

Who said you had to quit your job to debate somebody your just making excuses now. I said I'd pay for the debate, I wanna see Polight go up against somebody who think he's BS and full of shyt. You claim to be an intellectual of untouchable levels, I wanna see you expose him

if you can
Man you're lost if you wanna see VVD debate Polite. How would that be productive? VVD (I'm just assuming here), is barely involved in the community, clowns many black movements, and really is just in a different world. He's a half black, ex-rapper, Indian who really isn't even pro-black. He doesn't have black interest as a priority, he has so-called human interest, gay rights interest, and random extreme liberal political interest... in that order.

Polite.. realistically is a cult leader. He has good ideas, he's for the people- but he is also very militant about his self interest (padding his bank acct. and keeping madd p*ssy in his bed)

A debate between those two isn't something you should be interested in.
 
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Man you're lost if you wanna see VVD debate Polite. How would that be productive? VVD (I'm just assuming here), is barely involved in the community, clowns many black movements, and really is just in a different world. He's a half black, ex-rapper, Indian who really isn't even pro-black. He doesn't have black interest as a priority, he has so-called human interest, gay rights interest, and random extreme liberal political interest... in that order.

Polite.. realistically is a cult leader. He has good ideas, he's for the people- but he is also very militant about his self interest (padding his bank acct. and keeping madd p*ssy in his bed)

A debate between those two isn't something you should be interested in.

It is , he is completely opposed to everything Polight says, so I wanna see him prove his BS to his face. If he's who he says he is, he should be able to do it.

If Polight really is a babbling fool, he should have no problem exposing him since he's so educated and full of knowledge.

I'd debate the leader of the Aryan Nation if giving the chance
 
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