Pixar's SOUL (june 19, 2020)

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so you all didn't see the NY Pizza rat breh in this movie :russ: I was like hell naw


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I yelled when it and the cat made eye contact LOL.
My cousin was looking at me like :mjtf:
 

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Keeping it a buck, the more I think about this, the less high I'm on it. :patrice:

The ending was a complete copout. Dude could've continued music or teaching, he clearly had passions for both. :martin:

No, 22 doesn't have a defined gender, race, or voice, but @Ziggiy isn't entirely off base, regardless of how you feel about it.

Gotta agree with @Conz too in that that was Joe really that flawed of a person to even go through all this?

Its just...this was kinda hyped for me and it really wasn't that.
 

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Keeping it a buck, the more I think about this, the less high I'm on it. :patrice:

The ending was a complete copout. Dude could've continued music or teaching, he clearly had passions for both. :martin:

No, 22 doesn't have a defined gender, race, or voice, but @Ziggiy isn't entirely off base, regardless of how you feel about it.

Gotta agree with @Conz too in that that was Joe really that flawed of a person to even go through all this?

Its just...this was kinda hyped for me and it really wasn't that.

Ask yourself why you feel this way ?

Why are you so concerned about ''what voice'' or ''what body'' entered Joe ? did that really throw the movie off base especially when the movie went out of its way to explain the mechanics of the ''soul''.

When you watch it through the eyes of twitter and hard trodden militant topics of course you'd find flaws. no movie is flawless but to throw something so off base as race and white womans voice into this is literally trying too hard to be woke you need sleep.
 

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Ask yourself why you feel this way ?

Why are you so concerned about ''what voice'' or ''what body'' entered Joe ? did that really throw the movie off base especially when the movie went out of its way to explain the mechanics of the ''soul''.

When you watch it through the eyes of twitter and hard trodden militant topics of course you'd find flaws. no movie is flawless but to throw something so off base as race and white womans voice into this is literally trying too hard to be woke you need sleep.
Movie kind of threw itself off when Joe at the very beginning was on a come up of both being a teacher (offered a full time job), and as a musician (getting a big break), only to end with "i dunno lol :manny:"

The shyt just wasn't that deep, wasn't that good, and had some questionable elements to it.
 

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dad saw this
he's a bigtime jazzhead so when he told me he saw it I wasn't suprised
he gave it a 6/10 because he thought he was getting a real jazz movie but the gig stuff resonated with him because it’s like that for Musicians without the connect or machine behind them
But felt he was bamboozled by the plot
 
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Movie kind of threw itself off when Joe at the very beginning was on a come up of both being a teacher (offered a full time job), and as a musician (getting a big break), only to end with "i dunno lol :manny:"

The shyt just wasn't that deep, wasn't that good, and had some questionable elements to it.

Fair enough
 
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Movie kind of threw itself off when Joe at the very beginning was on a come up of both being a teacher (offered a full time job), and as a musician (getting a big break), only to end with "i dunno lol :manny:"

The shyt just wasn't that deep, wasn't that good, and had some questionable elements to it.


Same thing I said. You see it
 

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The voices were like that so we don't get confused. They showed 22 speaking in Joe's voice initially before they changed it

Its not a hard movie to follow. nobody is debating what the movie explains. I'm talking about the reality. It's a white woman, Tina Fey, as the voice of a black man for half the movie. You can suspend your belief to enjoy the movie.. but the reality is what it is.

Overall its an enjoyable movie. but it does fall victim to some familiar tropes we have seen used in black lead characters.

The concept of a woman trapped inside a mans body falls conveniently in line with the push for the emasculation of black men and pushing gay and trans blacks as the face of black men in media.

Making the black man an animal like the cat for half the movie conveniently falls in line with the bait and switch we have seen in the few black lead characters like in the princess and the frog or lupita in star wars for example.

White savior complex is also in there with tina fey showing Joe the error of his ways.

Like I said most of this will go over kids heads. But don't think it was an accident or they didnt know what they were doing. Movies like this are made to sell to white folks even when they have black lead characters.
 

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This is a western mentality.

He was so caught up chasing that he didn’t appreciate the world. He sits in the barber chair and never asks the barber about his life, only jazz. The barber was interested in jazz, but he clearly had more to him. That young girl on the trumpet, when he was a cat he tried to dismiss her and she could have lost her love of the instrument and dropped out of school. It was only 22 that brought it back when he listened to her new melody.

Pursuing your dreams is important but you cannot be singular about it. That’s the point.
Agreed with all of this. Maybe it hit home for me hard because I was caught up in grinding for the job and putting in all kinds of hours trying to work my way up. Then I took my first real vacation and it just changed my whole mentality. Work stopped being life and my mentality changed to the mindset that life is meant to be lived and enjoyed. If I get that promotion great, if not I still make great money and live a stress free life where I get to have a lot of fun and create a lot of little memories.

There are some people who will find reasons to be angry at everything or fixated on any slight (as we see in this thread) and others that stop to smell the flowers and enjoy the little things in life.
 
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